1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 7012 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4324 times:
It has been a while since I have posted a thread not relating to Delta or to seats/IFE.
With the growing number of Puerto Ricans migrating to Hawaii, what is the possibility of a potential SJU-HNL route? Currently, probably only a 777/A340/747 can handle such a route, however, with the 787 and the A350 on the horizon, perhaps these new aircraft could open up the possibility of such a route. HA could perhaps provide the route on a A350, or if AA orders the 787, then AA could use a 787 on such route. One issue with such pair, however, is that both HNL and SJU are considered low-yield markets. As of 2000, Puerto Ricans make up 2.5% of the population of Hawaii.
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Aloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2401 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4220 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5): Actually, from 1990 to 2000, the Puerto Rican population increased from 2.3% to 2.5%. Therefore, the migration is somewhat still going on.
That is a very, very, very small statistical increase.....pretty much insignificant.
Like most "ethnicity" surverys in Hawai'i there is always a fluctuation, mostly because everyone here is multi-ethnic and the race they choose to report often changes. For instance, my Puerto Rican relatives are all Puerto Rican, Spanish, & Portuguese plus one or more of the following: Hawaiian, Black, Chinese and Filipino. The wording of the survey influences what they mark.....they could be Wite today, Back tomorrow, Asian on Tuesday and multiethnic next week....depends on the question and the choices.
Any study of race/ethinicty in Hawai'i is flawed because none alow you say you are 1/16 of XXXXX 16 times....which is how most people here list their ethnicty (I've met people who are 1/16 of 16 things). I have seen a variety of surveys/polls/censuses which say the Japanese population here is between 20% and 50%.....the same goes for whites. Neither number is truly correct, and if I saw that one survey said 20% 5 years ago and 50% today the last thing I would think is "migration."
I am not saying there aren't any Puerto Ricans moving here (I'm sure a FEW) did. I just don't think your data supports any sort of "migration" going on.
Just curious why this route intrigues you all of a sudden??
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Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2735 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4189 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8): And I'm gonna guess the number of folks in PR that wanna venture to HNL for aholiday is about zippidty . . . population increase notwithstanding . . .
And furthermore, even if people from Puerto Rico wanted to go to HNL, it could be very easily done with one connection somewhere in the US, whether it be on CO through IAH or EWR, DL through ATL, AA through LAX, UA through ORD, etc.
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 22100 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4181 times:
Between the HNL-DFW-SJU, HNL-IAH-SJU, HNL-LAX-SJU, HNL-ORD-SJU and HNL-ATL-SJU options, all of them pretty direct except ORD, I think it's covered. If there was more demand, or a reason to move cargo between SJU and HNL (tropical island to tropical island. why?) then I might say otherwise.
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SkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3869 times:
How do you come up with these topics? Unreal....
If the traffic is on the increase between PR and Hawai'i, common sense prevails:
1. Why would a person leave one "island of paradise" for another?
2. There isnt any market for it. Even at 2% population. C'mon??
3. Yields would be low, low, low, low b/c most of the work force doesn't make the big bucks
on either island compared to work forces on mainland USA.
....am I wrong here....?