Charliejag1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 238 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3935 times:
I am flying AC to PEK from YVR next month in Executive First and I am trying to figure out whether I'll get an XM plane or not. I found a page on AC's site yesterday that I (of course) am unable to find again. Anyway, it was a list of destinations that should have the XM planes as of now. It was all YYZ and included, IIRC, LHR, PEK, HKG, CDG? and a couple others.
I have four questions.
-Do you think that list is simply their 777 routes? That way, unless then do an equipement change, its definitely XM.
-Does YVR-PEK ever operate as a 777?
-Where do the 763ER's fly?
-What are my chances of getting XM, given that about half of the in service 763's have been converted so far.
ChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 617 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3842 times:
Most routes operated by a B763 are not guaranteed to have an XM aircraft. However there are a few routes in the system were AC is attempting to dedicate XM aircraft. The only way to determine this is to complete a mock reservation on AC.com for the route you want. If a Star shows up next to the equipment type, then you can be almost sure you will get a refurbed aircraft - although still subject to change.
Up until a few weeks ago, this star was only displayed on B777 flights, but now it's being broadened to B763 flights.
Charliejag1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 238 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3772 times:
Any idea what routes they are trying to designate XM aircraft for?
Edit: Now that I poke around, they seem to be hoarding them for LHR routes. This makes sense, as it is more of a business market than some others (Hawaii, SXM, etc). LHR, however, is only 2 or 3 flights a day, leaving almost 10 refurbished 763s for other flights.
ChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 617 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3733 times:
The rest of the aircraft are scattered throughout the network. LHR/FRA seem to be the initial routes that are receiving dedicated XM B763s...but that doesn't mean that these are the only routes. Unfortunatly for the rest it's a gamble at this point. As of Dec 16th, there will be 13 converted 763s flying.
Thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1964 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3666 times:
Quoting ChrisA330 (Reply 3): The only way to determine this is to complete a mock reservation on AC.com for the route you want. If a Star shows up next to the equipment type, then you can be almost sure you will get a refurbed aircraft - although still subject to change.
No need to do a mock reservation. Just go to ac.com and on the main page, type in your departure and destination point, along with the dates and click "schedule" and then submit. All flights will show, including a/c type and the little star showing if the a/c is XM or not.
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
ChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 617 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3658 times:
Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 7): No need to do a mock reservation. Just go to ac.com and on the main page, type in your departure and destination point, along with the dates and click "schedule" and then submit.
That's what I meant when I said do a mock reservation...
To be honest, I prefer the old seats. I felt claustrophobic in the new ones when trying to sleep and found it annoying to have a ledge that my left arm rested on when trying to sleep. The new AVOD is nice, but has glitches. On my flight the system kept resetting itself, which was ok because it just started off from where it stopped.
The service from the crew was good (as it usually is) and I really liked the mood lighting.
Ayqzbr From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2616 times:
No one seems to have mentioned 763s to SXM, to which weekly seasonal service started this past Saturday (on an XM A/C, based on the mock reservation method - XM to SXM!). While my experience is that the seat plan will only show up a short time before the actual flight date, I am going to SXM Jan 26 and the seat plan has been showing the XM layout for a couple of weeks. While that is good news, my main fear is that it is a bad omen, since last minute changes are very common.
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2882 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2376 times:
Flying an Air Canada 777 or 767 XM is like the lottery, you just cannot tell and they switch the fleet around on the routes like no tomorrow...
I flew Air Canada in April LHR-YYZ-YVR, I kept checking the aircraft types I was supposed to be flying on months before I flew and no exageration the aircraft types switched probably 10 times in that time frame... The LHR-YYZ route switched from between a 763, 773, 333 and at one point was a 340. Also the YYZ-YVR route switched several times from 762, 763, 319 and 321.
It was finally a two week old 773 I flew on for the trans-Atlantic portion and then at the other extreme a 762 for the domestic leg!
I was supposed to be on a 773 flying home, but again this changed several times and was finally a 763 XM I flew on travelling back YYZ-LHR.
I was very lucky with aircrafts used on my Trans-Atlantic routes!
The XM and 777 fleet are a great product for Air Canada,
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1983 times:
Quoting Charliejag1 (Reply 22): Has anybody else noticed how (per the AC website) the international lounge is the only club in YVR to NOT have showers? The domestic and transborder ones apparently do, doesn't that seem backwards?
That seems totaly logical to me. Almost all passengers wanting to use showers would be arriving on long international flights and connecting to domestic or transborder flights. They would first have to clear immigration/customs and then proceed to the domstic/transborder areas. Makes more sense to have the showers in the areas closest to where their flights will be departing and after they have cleared all the arrival formalities.
Charliejag1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 238 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1846 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 23): Makes more sense to have the showers in the areas closest to where their flights will be departing and after they have cleared all the arrival formalities.
AHA! That does make sense, as not many people are going to want to take a shower before the long flight. Good call, I'll be sure to take advantage of that service. I just hope I'm well rested after those long flights.
25 QantasHeavy: When are the 777s coming to SYD? I had thought they would be here by this week -- both the 77W and the 77L. Any updates? I have heard great things abo
26 Threepoint: What, the first one didn't arrive on the 15th? The 77Ws should be landing in SYD daily now.
27 YVRSR: The first non-stop YVR-SYD left YVR on the night of Dec 14th and arrived in SYD on Dec 16th. The 77W will do the route during the high season (Dec and
28 QantasHeavy: OK thanks. Guess the AC 777s are here. Just had not seen any photos. Will look today. Would have thought the brigade of Sydney spotters would have had
29 Ayqzbr: I found a few at http://www.vpmag.com/yssy/viewtopic.php?p=161717 So far, AC seems to have had some challenges keeping the YYZ/YVR/SYD flights on sch