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Cathay Pacific Making Emergency Landing At YVR  
User currently offlineFlyingSikh From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 14073 times:

Just on CTV news, Cathay Pacific flight ### currently dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet...the news is saying it is "flap" problem

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User currently offlineFlyingSikh From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 14077 times:

Flight number is CX839

User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 14059 times:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...ry/2007/12/14/bc-planelanding.html

User currently offlineFlyingSikh From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 13991 times:

A safe landing gentleman!

The commentary on the news is hilarious though  rotfl 


User currently offlineYulguy From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 13991 times:

It's on CBC Newsworld right now. It landed safely. It seems OK right now.


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User currently offlineMultimark From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13908 times:

Now I just have to see how bad my evening commute is from teh bridge closures they did earlier  Sad

User currently offlineFlyboyseven From Canada, joined Feb 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13908 times:

You beat me by about four minutes in posting this!


As long as the number of take-offs equals the number of landings...you're doing fine.
User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13852 times:
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Quoting FlyingSikh (Thread starter):
ust on CTV news, Cathay Pacific flight ### currently dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet...

Having just driven over the second narrows bridge, I can assure you no one was dumping fuel over Burrard Inlet. My guess is they dumped it a few kilometers west of Tofino. Is that your info? Or did some lamebrain reporter say that. If they dumped over Burrard Inlet that really would mean an emergency.

Glad it landed without incident



Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineFlyingSikh From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13815 times:



Quoting Arrow (Reply 7):

ctv news


User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13805 times:

Wasn't Zeke behind the wheel, was it???


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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13728 times:
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Quoting FlyingSikh (Reply 8):
ctv news

Two scenarios:

1. Idiot cop/airport spokesperson/airline spokesperson told the reporter that and has no idea where Burrard Inlet is.
2. idiot reporter (probably national reporter) took an uninformed stab at it, also has no idea where Burrard Inlet is.

The fog of war strikes again.



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User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3283 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9807 times:

"Standby landings aren't uncommon. It's not unusual to have one a week," Donegani said after the plane had landed safely.

What the heck is a standby landing? Is it also known as a precautionary landing?



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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 9627 times:

Just a faulty cockpit warning light falsely indicating flaps not retracted over speed limit. No big deal.

Bad news to the environment though - 50t dumped.

[Edited 2007-12-15 11:50:30]


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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7414 times:

Well, at least they didn't dump fuel again over Burrad Inlet, where some crazy construction worker decided to drill a pipeline last year and caused a fuel accident that I have never heard of before.

So where did they dump the fuel? Georgia Strait?

Glad the plane had no problems, my friend was on the same flight one day before.



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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7232 times:
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Quoting Ktachiya (Reply 13):
So where did they dump the fuel? Georgia Strait?

Off the west coast of Vancouver Island.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7103 times:



Quoting FlyingSikh (Thread starter):
dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet

LOL, that I'd like to see Big grin

Quoting Cloudyapple (Reply 12):
Bad news to the environment though - 50t dumped.

Not to mention bad news for CX's bean counters ... Big grin



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User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7076 times:

"The Landing Flap".

Hilarious!!

Is that different to "The Take-Off Flap", or "The Cruise Flap" or "The Turbulence Flap"? Do you get different flaps depending on ticket price or class of service? Awesome journalism....!  Big grin  rotfl 


User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5682 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7035 times:



Quoting Arrow (Reply 7):
ust on CTV news, Cathay Pacific flight ### currently dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet...
Having just driven over the second narrows bridge, I can assure you no one was dumping fuel over Burrard Inlet.



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 15):
Quoting FlyingSikh (Thread starter):dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet
LOL, that I'd like to see 

You do realise that under MOST circumstances you cannot see fuel being dumped? It USUALLY evaporates loooong before it reaches the ground.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineMaddog888 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6970 times:



Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 11):
What the heck is a standby landing?

It's just like a standby ticket. you may or may not get to make a landing. If the airport is busy you get bumped to the next airport and so on until you find one with space.  Smile  duck 

Maddog888


User currently offlineSMOLT From Japan, joined Nov 1999, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6909 times:

The amount of kerosene they dumped would be able to afford to run the diesel engine of my car for more than ten years. Guilty flaps they are in this time when fuel prices have been so raised.

User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2147 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6740 times:



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 17):
You do realise that under MOST circumstances you cannot see fuel being dumped? It USUALLY evaporates loooong before it reaches the ground.

Which of course has the same net effect on the environment, it's just dispersed over a wider area. No fear, all that fuel will eventually reach the surface. A necessary but unfortunate byproduct of an immediate return-to-land scenario.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6575 times:



Quoting Gemuser (Reply 17):
You do realise that under MOST circumstances you cannot see fuel being dumped? It USUALLY evaporates loooong before it reaches the ground.

Yes, but with so many under populated areas a stretches of open water, it would be curious to see an airliner circling over Burrard Inlet, also due to the close proximity of the mountains.



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User currently offlineGemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5682 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6495 times:



Quoting Threepoint (Reply 20):
Which of course has the same net effect on the environment, it's just dispersed over a wider area. No fear, all that fuel will eventually reach the surface.

Of course! But the point was that you usually cannot tell, visually, that an aircraft is dumping fuel.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineQblue From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6426 times:

Friends working that night tell me that when the 340 landed chunks of ice fell from the area the fuel was being dumped and it took longer to dump the fuel due to the fuel icing problem

User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

Quoting Qblue (Reply 23):
fuel icing problem

Kerosene freezes at about -73degC depending on the exact composition of the fuel. Ambient temperature in the troposphere is about -60degC at 32000'- 65000'. So in all normal circumstances the fuel is in liquid form in the tank of an aeroplane even if not heated. When fuel is jettisoned it evaporates in the atmosphere. The jettisoned fuel disturbs the supercooled water vapour in the air and causes it to condense and ice. Much the same as how artificial rain is made.

[Edited 2007-12-16 21:02:40]


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25 Post contains links and images Threepoint : http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.ph...4/diaries/niki/niki045/DumpingFuel Really? These are all images of aircraft dumping fuel.
26 Gemuser : I did say "USUALLY". All of those images appear to be from in flight,(except maybe the last one) which was rather outside the discussion of seeing th
27 Threepoint : OK, I didn't know we were making that distinction. But I maintain that fuel dumping, given a clear day, would be visible to the ground-based observer
28 CBPhoto : Yes...I believe that too, in a matter of fact I am almost positive I saw ground based pictures on the forums somewhere when a 747 made an emergency l
29 ACDC8 : Point of the matter is, with so much open space (and I'm sure designated fuel dumping areas) available, having a plane circle around Burrard Inlet, an
30 Gemuser : It also depends on temps, humidity & wind. If conditions are such as you see an ordinary contra tail from the ground, then yes you will most likely s
31 Threepoint : Any reports of dumping over Burrard Inlet were an obvious mistake. The plane went west to Vancouver Island, well out of the view of people and far fr
32 Arrow : Damn right!
33 Post contains links and images KELPkid : Not if the Aussies had anything to do with it: View Large View MediumPhoto © Mehdi Nazarinia
34 Siren : Journamalisming ain't easy! Freezing temp for Jet A is -40C. Freezing temp for Jet A-1 is -47C. Whether or not Canada uses Jet A or A-1... I do not k
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