United777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1648 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12709 times:
Arrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2582 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12502 times:
Quoting FlyingSikh (Thread starter): ust on CTV news, Cathay Pacific flight ### currently dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet...
Having just driven over the second narrows bridge, I can assure you no one was dumping fuel over Burrard Inlet. My guess is they dumped it a few kilometers west of Tofino. Is that your info? Or did some lamebrain reporter say that. If they dumped over Burrard Inlet that really would mean an emergency.
Glad it landed without incident
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
1. Idiot cop/airport spokesperson/airline spokesperson told the reporter that and has no idea where Burrard Inlet is.
2. idiot reporter (probably national reporter) took an uninformed stab at it, also has no idea where Burrard Inlet is.
The fog of war strikes again.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Ktachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6064 times:
Well, at least they didn't dump fuel again over Burrad Inlet, where some crazy construction worker decided to drill a pipeline last year and caused a fuel accident that I have never heard of before.
So where did they dump the fuel? Georgia Strait?
Glad the plane had no problems, my friend was on the same flight one day before.
LHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5726 times:
"The Landing Flap".
Hilarious!!
Is that different to "The Take-Off Flap", or "The Cruise Flap" or "The Turbulence Flap"? Do you get different flaps depending on ticket price or class of service? Awesome journalism....!
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5217 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5685 times:
Quoting Arrow (Reply 7): ust on CTV news, Cathay Pacific flight ### currently dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet...
Having just driven over the second narrows bridge, I can assure you no one was dumping fuel over Burrard Inlet.
Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 15): Quoting FlyingSikh (Thread starter):dumping fuel over Burrad Inlet
LOL, that I'd like to seeÂÂ
You do realise that under MOST circumstances you cannot see fuel being dumped? It USUALLY evaporates loooong before it reaches the ground.
Maddog888 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5620 times:
Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 11): What the heck is a standby landing?
It's just like a standby ticket. you may or may not get to make a landing. If the airport is busy you get bumped to the next airport and so on until you find one with space.
SMOLT From Japan, joined Nov 1999, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5559 times:
The amount of kerosene they dumped would be able to afford to run the diesel engine of my car for more than ten years. Guilty flaps they are in this time when fuel prices have been so raised.
Threepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 8 Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5390 times:
Quoting Gemuser (Reply 17): You do realise that under MOST circumstances you cannot see fuel being dumped? It USUALLY evaporates loooong before it reaches the ground.
Which of course has the same net effect on the environment, it's just dispersed over a wider area. No fear, all that fuel will eventually reach the surface. A necessary but unfortunate byproduct of an immediate return-to-land scenario.
The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7598 posts, RR: 40 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5225 times:
Quoting Gemuser (Reply 17): You do realise that under MOST circumstances you cannot see fuel being dumped? It USUALLY evaporates loooong before it reaches the ground.
Yes, but with so many under populated areas a stretches of open water, it would be curious to see an airliner circling over Burrard Inlet, also due to the close proximity of the mountains.
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5217 posts, RR: 6 Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5145 times:
Quoting Threepoint (Reply 20): Which of course has the same net effect on the environment, it's just dispersed over a wider area. No fear, all that fuel will eventually reach the surface.
Of course! But the point was that you usually cannot tell, visually, that an aircraft is dumping fuel.
Qblue From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 147 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5076 times:
Friends working that night tell me that when the 340 landed chunks of ice fell from the area the fuel was being dumped and it took longer to dump the fuel due to the fuel icing problem
Kerosene freezes at about -73degC depending on the exact composition of the fuel. Ambient temperature in the troposphere is about -60degC at 32000'- 65000'. So in all normal circumstances the fuel is in liquid form in the tank of an aeroplane even if not heated. When fuel is jettisoned it evaporates in the atmosphere. The jettisoned fuel disturbs the supercooled water vapour in the air and causes it to condense and ice. Much the same as how artificial rain is made.
25 Threepoint: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.ph...4/diaries/niki/niki045/DumpingFuel Really? These are all images of aircraft dumping fuel.
26 Gemuser: I did say "USUALLY". All of those images appear to be from in flight,(except maybe the last one) which was rather outside the discussion of seeing th
27 Threepoint: OK, I didn't know we were making that distinction. But I maintain that fuel dumping, given a clear day, would be visible to the ground-based observer
28 CBPhoto: Yes...I believe that too, in a matter of fact I am almost positive I saw ground based pictures on the forums somewhere when a 747 made an emergency l
29 ACDC8: Point of the matter is, with so much open space (and I'm sure designated fuel dumping areas) available, having a plane circle around Burrard Inlet, an
30 Gemuser: It also depends on temps, humidity & wind. If conditions are such as you see an ordinary contra tail from the ground, then yes you will most likely s
31 Threepoint: Any reports of dumping over Burrard Inlet were an obvious mistake. The plane went west to Vancouver Island, well out of the view of people and far fr
34 Siren: Journamalisming ain't easy! Freezing temp for Jet A is -40C. Freezing temp for Jet A-1 is -47C. Whether or not Canada uses Jet A or A-1... I do not k
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