RAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 7 Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4243 times:
I have discovered in a website that VRG Linhas Aereas will add many Boeing 767-300 from former airlines that actually are operating this aircraft.
I don't know where are the Varig Boeing 767-300 that operated with the Brazilian flag carrier until its demise but sounds interesting to know that:
1. Will add a pair of Boeing 767-300 from Air Canada (C-GGMX and C-GHPD)
2. Will add a Boeing 767-300 from Air Madagascar (5R-MFF)
3. Will add a Boeing 767-300 from Alitalia (I-DEIB)
4. Will add a Boeing 767-300 from Arke Fly (PH-AHQ)
5. Will add a Boeing 767-300 from El Al Israel Airlines (4X-EAJ). The Israeli airline will add at the same time a Boeing 767-300 from Kenya Airways (5Y-KQQ).
6. Will add a Boeing 767-300 from LAN Airlines (CC-CIO)
7. Will add a Boeing 767-200 from Malev (HA-LHA)
All these new aircrafts will join the Brazilian airline in a few weeks. Counting seven new aircrafts (on lease from ILFC, GECAS, AWAS,...??) with the six that now are flying under the VRG Linhas Aereas will count until 13 aircrafts.
Any chance to add the 4 Gulf Air actually stored at Dublin?
What's your opinion?
[Edited 2007-12-16 04:16:37]
[Edited 2007-12-16 04:24:57]
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SAOAP From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 170 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4153 times:
I don't know if Varig will keep on ordering more 767s as I have it from a very good source that a new wide-body order is to be announced pretty soon with new planes coming from the other side of the Atlantic - though some will come from the Americas too Here's a little preview of things to come...
Dougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 382 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3508 times:
Quoting Jmbarros12 (Reply 5): However, it´s still hard to believe that GOL would consider the acquisition of airbus jets.
Why ? In England Easyjet started with an all B737 fleet and have now changed to all Airbus, their decision on change was based on economics of the aircraft and a better deal from Airbus.
Just because GOL operate B737's doesn't mean to say that they might not opt for Airbus on long haul dependant on what deals are available and maybe swing on the short haul in the future, never say never.
Jmbarros12 From Brazil, joined Nov 2007, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3488 times:
I agree that it´s quite possible for GOL and VARIG get some airbus jets to join their fleet. What I meant is that I think it is unlikely for GOL to renew such a "young" B737 fleet in the near run. And I assumed that this strategy would be applied for VARIG as well, cause they are managed by the same team.
I´ll probably wrong, and I hope I´m wrong. I´ll be very glad to see some A330´s flying for others Brazilian carriers besides TAM.
Dougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 382 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 3379 times:
Quoting Jmbarros12 (Reply 7): What I meant is that I think it is unlikely for GOL to renew such a "young" B737 fleet in the near run.
A lot of airlines buy significant fleet renewals much younger these days, its a status symbol to possess a young fleet, look at Ryanair for example, even some of the B737800s (qty 5) that Varig are getting are ex Ryanair, their policy of renewal is to keep pace with fuel economics, the manufacturers are always tweaking things for better fuel consumption, upgraded interiors etc.
The market demands young aircraft, there is nothing worse than getting on a grubby wreck of an aircraft, especially
if you are flying lets say for more than two hours.
Ryanair, are looking at another large order soon and they are still taking delivery of a lot of new aircraft.
Well, skyliner-aviation reported last week, that at least one B767 was ferried from DUB back to AUH- anyone knows more?
Quoting RAFVC10 (Thread starter): VRG Linhas Aereas will add many Boeing 767-300 from former airlines that actually are operating this aircraft
Thats not good... I think these aircraft will stay in their previous configurations? well, imagine all the diefferent galleys, seats etc.- what a confusion! Arkefly B767 have a 3-class config.; Alitalia B767 only 2-class. What a chaos...
Dougbr2006 From Brazil, joined Oct 2006, 382 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3084 times:
Quoting Debonair (Reply 10): Thats not good... I think these aircraft will stay in their previous configurations?
The new owners of Varig have been quoted as stating that all of the B767's will have a new interior at a cost of over $ 1 million per aircraft to configure them equally. But this can only start to happen after all the 13 aircraft have been delivered, so that one machine at a time can be taken out of service for the mods.