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User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

SOUTH KOREA AVIATION THREAD

"A.net members NEVER ceases to impress me"!.....Two weeks ago, I restarted the Singapore Aviation Thread, and a few days after, I did a rebirth on the Japan Thread. I am very pleased to announce that both have received good response and are moving along smoothly. I therefore decided to start a China/Hong-Kong/Taiwan Thread and within minutes of posting received surprising participation...."Totally Awesome"  bigthumbsup 

With everyone's blessing, I would like to start one for the Korean A.net enthusiast and encourage them to participate with news or comments on South Korea's Aviation community.

All I ask from everyone is to be "RESPECTFUL" of each others views, opinions, comments, suggestions, etc, etc,....I have read many post on other threads and a few of them have Posters exchanging some "harsh" words of criticism. None of us are PERFECT, nor are we EXPERTS to know everything that there is to know on the topic(s) we wish to share,....."least of all myself". Therefore it is through "RESPECT" that we can gain knowledge and wisdom from others.

This thread is open to everyone and anyone who wish to visit or share. Your topic and comments will always be welcomed and appreciated.

I would like to open the THREAD by introducing the primary airlines from South Korea and the types of aircraft they operate.:......Asiana Airlines, Hansung Airlines, Jeju Air, Korean Air, and Yeongnam Air

ASIANA AIRLINES:
(IATA) OZ (ICAO) AAR (Callsign) ASIANA
Airbus A320, A321, A330-300, Boeing 737-400, 737-500, 747-400, 747-400 Combi, 767-300, 777-200ER.

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ASIANA CARGO:
Boeing 747-400F/BCF, 767-300F

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HANSUNG AIRLINES:
(ICAO) HAN (Callsign) HANSUNG AIR
ATR-72-200

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JEJU AIR:
(IATA) 7C (ICAO) JJA (Callsign) JEJUAIR
Bombardier Q400

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KOREAN AIR:
(IATA) KE (ICAO) KAL (Callsign) KOREAN AIR
Airbus A300-600R, A330-200, A330-300, Boeing 737-700, Boeing 737-800, Boeing 737-900, 747-400, 777-200ER, 777-300. **(KE has Airbus A380, and Boeing 737-900ER, 777-300ER, and 787-8 on order)

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KOREAN AIR CARGO:
Airbus A300-600F and Boeing 747-400F/ERF/BCF (KE Cargo has 747-8F and 777F on order)

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YEONGNAM AIR (Scheduled to begin service in February 2008): Fokker F-100

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I will do my best to review daily news available from online aviation sources and post topics related to Korean Aviation. May I please ask all of you to do the same. Thank You!

"This THREAD is for YOU and everyone else to enjoy....Welcome on Board"!  Smile

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User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

"USE IT", or 'LOSE IT" says Korean Air

Korean Air announced that they are modifying their mileage program effective July 01, 2008. Seems that they want to encourage people to use their points or lose it. As of October 07, KAL passengers had W188.6 billion mileage points to redeem. Korean Air uses a formula of (US$1 = W927) which come out to equal (US)$203.5 million in accrued value.

Asiana Airlines reported W59.5 billion, or (US)$64.2 million.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200712/200712130009.html


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User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

KAL 777F

Good news for Korean Air, as Boeing announced that their 777F Freighter program is on schedule with their engineers completing over 90% of the design work for this new aircraft. To date, Boeing has sold 82 777F to 11 customers, which accounts for 20% of the backlog on all variants of the Triple-7. The airplane's basic design is based on the 777-200LR, which is powered by the world's largest and most powerful jet turbofan engine, the GE90.

Korean Air has an order for 5 aircrafts due for delivery in 2009 and 2010. The 777F has a range of 5,000 nm, with a payload capacity of 226,000 lbs. KAL also has 5 747-8F on order to commence delivery in late 2008.

http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=1162


User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3006 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3768 times:
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Thanks for starting the thread, 747dreamlifter!

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Korean Air is renumbering their Australia/NZ flight numbers from KE8xx to KE1xx next year, according to schedules.



The biggest mistake made by most human beings: Listening to only half, understanding just a quarter and telling double.
User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3748 times:

Korean Air seems to be expanding their cargo operations into Mainland-China as it invest 47% into new Cargo Terminal at
Tianjin Binhai International Airport.

Korean Air presently owns six Cargo terminals world wide: Incheon, Gimpa, Los Angeles, New York, Tokyo and Osaka.

http://eyefortransport.com/index.asp?news=58807&nli=freight&ch=


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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

I hope India and Korea get around to revising their bi-laterals to allow additional cities and more frequencies to existing cities. On my recent trip back from India--MAA-BKK-LAX--on Thai, I noticed a lot of Korean nationals on the MAA-BKK sector--I am assuming they were connecting to Korea from BKK. MAA is where the Hyundai auto plant is located.

Anyone know if the bi-laterals are being reviewed?


User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3719 times:

According to ATW (Air Transport World) daily news, Asiana Airlines is exploring to modernize its long-haul fleet and is evaluating Boeing 787s, 747-8s, Airbus A350XWBs, and even the A380s superjumbo. As per report, it was unclear if Asiana is looking at a mix fleet or just one type. A decision is due soon.

Cheers....


User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3686 times:



Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 5):
Anyone know if the bi-laterals are being reviewed?

Well, Korean side really wants more frequency, but Indian side does not. That is why several recent negotiations were broken. Korean side proposed open sky, but Indian side denied. Currently only 6 weeklies passenger flights are allowed.


User currently offlineCrjflyer35 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 668 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3674 times:

Great thread idea!

From having spent 15 months in S. Korea with the US Army, I got to experience what I believe is one of the most beautiful airports in the world, ICN. just amazing!

I also have the distinction of doing my first solo over S. Korea at RKSO (Osan AFB) in an aero club C172. In the summe



Ok, wait for the RJ to pass, cleared to push tail south Mike, and you're cleared to spin #2 in the push.
User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

Does anyone know if Yeongnam's first F-100 HL7774 has been ferried from AMS to PUS yet?



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 48
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3578 times:



Quoting HeeseokKoo (Reply 7):
Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 5):
Anyone know if the bi-laterals are being reviewed?

Well, Korean side really wants more frequency, but Indian side does not. That is why several recent negotiations were broken. Korean side proposed open sky, but Indian side denied. Currently only 6 weeklies passenger flights are allowed.

Thanks for the info.

I sure would like to see open skies. I hope the Indian side relents, and agrees to at least 7x week to all major cities in India.


User currently offlineSr176 From Switzerland, joined Feb 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3540 times:

When is the new dock opening at ICN ?

User currently offlineHoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3006 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3518 times:
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Quoting Sr176 (Reply 11):
When is the new dock opening at ICN ?

The opening of the new dock is now slated for July 2008.



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User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

Jeju Air to add Boeing 737-800s in 2008.

Jeju Air presently operates 5 Bombardier Q400 turboprops (3 more on option), and will add two 737-800s in April 2008 due to high traffic demand and future expansion plans that may include international routes. The Boeing jets will seat 189 passengers and hopes to have a fleet of 15 by 2013.

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http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/12/113_14217.html

Currently Jeju Air only operates between Jeju Island and Seoul's Gimpo and Busan Airports. It celebrated its one millionth passenger in November 07, just 17 months after beginning scheduled service.  bigthumbsup 

Jeju's present competitor is Hansung Airlines who also operates turboprops (ATR-72s), but is expecting stiffer competition in February when Yeongnam Airlines begins flying F-100 jets. Another airline on the horizon is Incheon Tiger Airways, a joint venture between the Incheon municipal government and Singapore's LCC Tiger Airways with Airbus A320s aircrafts.

FLEET DATA: Dec 01, 2007
msn registration del date
4119 HL5251 4/24/06
4124 HL5252 6/12/06
4129 HL5254 7/29/06
4137 HL5525 11/15/06
4141 HL5256 12/27/06

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User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

LOOKING BACK IN TIME!

Korean Air Boeing 747SP (Special Performance)

The 747SP is 48 ft 4 inches shorter than the standard model and is the only 747 with a modified fuselage until the arrival of Boeings next generation 747-8 due in 2009 who has a lengthen cabin. Main design differences found on the SP included single-slotted flaps and the elimination of flap mechanism housing called "canoes" from under the wings.
The SP also had a larger horizontal stabilizer and a longer vertical tail fin with a double-hinged rudder system.

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Korean Airlines operated a pair for 17 years until finally retiring them in October/November 1998. Both aircrafts were powered by Pratt & Whitney JT9d-7A engines and had a seating configuration of F12/C40/Y200.

FLEET DATA
msn / regis / del date / flt/hrs / cycles / status
22483 HL7456 1/22/81 (67553) (9648) scrapped
22484 HL7457 3/18/81 (66576) (9487) stored


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User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

TGIF....."Thank God It's Friday"!

Well the weekend is here and we all made it through another week. Just a reminder that there's only four more days to shop before Christmas.  santahat 

Wish to thank everyone who stopped by to check out our thread....A very special thanks to those who posted to help keep this thread alive.  bigthumbsup 

Have A Nice Weekend ..... everyone! Cheers.  Big grin


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17061 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Do anyone know how often KE Cargo flies into ARN???


Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3268 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):
Do anyone know how often KE Cargo flies into ARN???

According to their posted CARGO schedule, it seems that they got only ONE flight per week on Saturdays. Flight arrives at 15:10 and departs at 17:55. KE0547/KE0548  airplane 

Cheers.  Smile


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17061 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3241 times:



Quoting 747Dreamlifter (Reply 17):
According to their posted CARGO schedule, it seems that they got only ONE flight per week on Saturdays. Flight arrives at 15:10 and departs at 17:55. KE0547/KE0548

Okey, thank you so much. Will get to ARN one Saturday and spot. Will be really nice to see the KE a/c.



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User currently offlineUpperDeck79 From Finland, joined Feb 2005, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 3210 times:

Has there been advertising around in Seoul about the new ICN-HEL flight starting in June?


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AY and ANA rock!
User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 3202 times:

Does KE still intend to start flights to AMMAN, Jordan?

Regards

Mike


User currently offline747Dreamlifter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3111 times:



Quoting 717-200 (Reply 9):
Does anyone know if Yeongnam's first F-100 HL7774 has been ferried from AMS to PUS yet?

YES......It was delivered to the Yeongnam on October 20, 2007 and was spotted in Taipei on October 23. It probably will be used for training and route orientation. They are scheduled to begin service in February 2008

As a side note: Korean Air is also planning to launch its own LCC called Air Korea....no specific date yet, but sometime in 2008.

Cheers.  Wink


User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

I was wondering what the status of OZ's business class fleet upgrade is? I was planning on doing an AUS-ICN run in August and was probably going to either take OZ or UA in C class.


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User currently offlineArecibo From Spain, joined Aug 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

I had flown both; Asiana and Korean Air. Their service is superb; if US airlines pampered their passengers a 1/3 of the way (Korean carriers) do; it would be so great to fly again. Korean carriers take inmese pride in details (ex. very polished, flower arranged restrooms in coach ), their attendants are just Gorgeous poly-language driven professionals.


Life is tough; It's touher if you're stupid. John Wayne.
User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 2966 times:



Quoting 747Dreamlifter (Reply 14):
LOOKING BACK IN TIME!

Korean Air Boeing 747SP (Special Performance)

[.....]

FLEET DATA
msn / regis / del date / flt/hrs / cycles / status
22483 HL7456 1/22/81 (67553) (9648) scrapped
22484 HL7457 3/18/81 (66576) (9487) stored

SEL-MNL in 1990 was my lone flight on an SP. I'd hate to think it's the one which got scrapped.  sorry 



"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
25 EddieDude : Hello, I have several questions: 1. Does anyone know how DL is doing on its ATL-ICN non-stop flight? It is operated daily with a 777-200ER, isn't it?
26 BSBIsland : KE stopped GRU in 2001. IIRC it was 3 weekly via LAX.
27 PanAm_DC10 : Jeju Air has confirmed that they will lease 2 x 737-800 for delivery in 2008 with a further 8 leased frames to be delivered by 2012. The airline will
28 Post contains images 747Dreamlifter : THANKS......PanAm_10 for you update info. Please post more info on their route ecpansion plans using these new jets. Do you know if their Q400 that r
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