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Condor To Discontinue MCO-FRA  
User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

I saw this one coming. DE will discontinue MCO-FRA service effective 4/28/08. DE has been flying the route 2X Weekly. LH is now flying this route 6X Weekly. With MP pulling out of the AMS route, MCO-Europe capacity will take a bit of a hit. I know that we've talked about the possibility of another European carrier starting MCO, but now I definitely wonder if it might happen. With the departure of two leisure long-haul carriers the yields might improve enough for it to happen. We might see LH go Daily if nothing else.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/bus...ation/2007/12/oia-loses-anoth.html

[Edited 2007-12-17 20:20:23]

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33045 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

No surprise, but Lufthansa is the better option. It's not a huge loss with LH in town. Though they are the fourth European airline to discontinue MCO in the past year or so, joining Icelandair, LTU, and Martinair. Though I think gaining Aer Lingus and Lufthansa is a good trade-off.


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User currently offlineWF2BNN From Norway, joined Dec 2004, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Don't LH own DE? I guess they are keeping the DE MCO flights for the winter for Holiday charter flights.

I was in my old "hometown" MCO two weeks ago - and it was great to see LH there, not to mention three VS744's at once and the BA 777.

Mats



What goes up, must come down.
User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2450 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
No surprise, but Lufthansa is the better option. It's not a huge loss with LH in town.

I completely agree. It is a little bit of a concern that this is now four carriers departing MCO. However I do think that this will be better for MCO in the long run. I think that the presence of the long-haul leisure carriers can and has kept MCO from landing quality Transatlantic service (with the exception of LH). I hope that yields improve and MCO can possibly see AF at some point.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

Plus British Airways is adding an additional 3 flights a week for a total of 10 this spring. It wouldn't surprise me if we see another European Airline come to MCO.

Over on the A departure level side around Air Jamaica, the sign is flashing "Air Italy" as if Air Italy is flying here. It was here a couple weeks back, but that was for a Space Shuttle charter I think.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33045 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2422 times:



Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 4):

Over on the A departure level side around Air Jamaica, the sign is flashing "Air Italy" as if Air Italy is flying here. It was here a couple weeks back, but that was for a Space Shuttle charter I think.

Air Italy itself only does charters, so it was definitely for some sort of charter.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Any EU carrier can start it from anywhere, so you could see BA run it from MUN, for example. Not gonna happen, but anything is open now...


Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2404 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Air Italy itself only does charters, so it was definitely for some sort of charter.

You're right. I was just remembering that about two years ago, Eurofly received DOT approval to start MCO but the service never started.


User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2389 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6):
Any EU carrier can start it from anywhere, so you could see BA run it from MUN, for example. Not gonna happen, but anything is open now...

True...But the most likely scenario for an additional route would probably be to a large transfer hub...possibly either CDG or AMS. I don't think that KL would start AMS so soon but you never know. I would say the best possibility would be AF MCO-CDG but at this point who knows? I don't think that there is enough O&D for any additional service without the benefit of the large transfer hub at the other end...I think CDG would be perfect. I do know that MCO has been talking to AF and pushing for the route. It looks like now is the time for MCO to put up a great incentive package if they really want the service to happen.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33045 posts, RR: 71
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2377 times:



Quoting Rookinla (Reply 7):
You're right. I was just remembering that about two years ago, Eurofly received DOT approval to start MCO but the service never started.

Eurofly was also charters, but the flight was moved to MIA not long before it was going to start. It was to be MXP-MCO-FPO-MXP.

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 8):
I don't think that KL would start AMS so soon but you never know.

Considering Martinair is pulling out, and they are 50% owned by KLM and operate leisure routes, I doubt it.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17671 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2151 times:



Quoting WF2BNN (Reply 2):
Don't LH own DE? I

It's been sold to Air Berlin.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2687 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1913 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
Though they are the fourth European airline to discontinue MCO in the past year or so, joining Icelandair

To be fair, though, Orlando retained FI service through SFB.


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