Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 56 Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 2375 times:
Two new international routes out of Newquay too - Girona and Alicante.
And the Romania routes were only a matter of time - Arad and Constanta - Ryanair have arrived there a bit later than the other LCCs but unsurprisingly have chosen airports the others aren't serving. I suspect there will be many more Romanian airports served in the near future, particularly given FR's major Italian and Spanish presence.
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Voodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 1962 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
Quoting Cornish (Reply 5): I suspect there will be many more Romanian airports served in the near future, particularly given FR's major Italian and Spanish presence.
There do seem to be a lot of Romanians in Italy. Does the situation correspond to the UK-Polish labour market?
Cornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 56 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2269 times:
Quoting Voodoo (Reply 7): There do seem to be a lot of Romanians in Italy. Does the situation correspond to the UK-Polish labour market?
As someone who has been doing some Romanian airline/airport projects lately, I've had to do a fari bit of analysis of this. And we will undoubtedly see a similar experience. Romanians naturally migrate to Italy (and a lesser extent spain) rather than to Northern European countries due to their language being so close to Latin. The Italy-Romania LCC market is growing strongly thanks to the likes of Wizz, myair, blueair, etc. Note that one of easyJet's first routes to Romania was Milan-Bucharest too.
[Edited 2007-12-18 04:29:59]
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B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2197 times:
Callumm92 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
Quoting B747forever (Reply 9): Why didnt they launch a service to NYO???
Because it's already served from PIK. Maybe it will be launched later, for example in 2009 should the demand be there, and FR become a bit more established in EDI.
Another possible reason would be that FR and the Swedish authorities aren't exactly best of friends, so FR's expansion in Sweden may be a bit subdued because of that.
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3128 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
Quoting B747forever (Reply 9): Why didnt they launch a service to NYO???
Maybe because they just don't have an aircraft for the route.
There is no mention of new aircraft bases, so as it seems, all routes are replacements for other routes. As EDI is no base, the aircraft should come from NYO and therefore, they would either add an aircraft, or stop another route. They decided not to take any of these 2 actions.
It is well possible that they will launch it eventually; either if EDI becomes a base, either when NYO expands.
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1865 times:
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 14): Plus SAS will op EDI-ARN 4 x weekly next summer,
True, therefore I thought that FR was going to start a NYO-EDI service to compete with SAS.
Sam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 939 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1732 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 13): Looks like there will be some big reductions on current routes at ALC, GRO, PSA and MRS then
ALC is a brand new base - does this mean some of the new routes haven't worked for them?
Which routes from ALC, GRO, PSA and MRS face frequency reductions then? Usually FR list them at the bottom of the press release, but they haven't this time...
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Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3128 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1719 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 13): Looks like there will be some big reductions on current routes at ALC, GRO, PSA and MRS then.
Well, it seems that MRS gets new aircraft. Currently, MRS has 2 aircraft, but the schedule as it is loaded currently for all routes in Marseille (test week 12-18 May, 2008) requires no less than 5 aircraft, but would leave many aircraft sitting idle half the day - there are just 5 simultanous flights some days.
Most probably, they will reschedule some more flights (usual business after FR expansion) but they will surely get at least a 3rd plane and probably a 4th.
EXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1699 times:
The reductions of flights to cities already served from ALC, GRO... are making way for the start up of less than 1 per day flights (3 or 4 weekly...) like NQY, BHX...
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StationManager From Spain, joined Sep 2006, 86 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1670 times:
ALC adds a new aircraft, a fourth one is expected next summer, from 0 to 23 routes since last March. Seems ALC is working quite well, great loads despite expensive fares.
Connector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 921 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
Quoting Cornish (Reply 5): And the Romania routes were only a matter of time - Arad and Constanta - Ryanair have arrived there a bit later than the other LCCs but unsurprisingly have chosen airports the others aren't serving. I suspect there will be many more Romanian airports served in the near future
Wizzair had Milan to Arad on its radar like a year ago but suddenly pulled out before even starting service motivating that Romanian market conditions didn't fully reached maturity
In retrospective I think Wizz found out somehaw about Ryan's plans shortly after they started marketing and promoting its own Milan Bergamo to Arad and wisely backed off. Few weeks ago Wizz pulled out of Tirgu Mures as well invoking bad weather pattern in the region and lack of ILS. They moved out some 100 km North to Cluj where weather is just as bad in the winter, the airport is more crowded with regular scheduled airlines, the runway is 500 ft shorter and . . . still lacks an ILS as of yet
Although a little behind everyone else, common sense choices I would say for Ryan, linking Western side of Romania trough Arad and Eastern side of Romania trough Constantza to its hub in Bergamo and beyond. Two routes with high potential indeed considering that Allitalia Express already announced that is dropping its three daily between Milan Malpensa and Timisoara (45 km away from Arad) and Constantza which is the place to get your sun tan between May and September. Wonder why Bucharest is not on Ryan's map? Bucharest Baneasa it's way to small and crowded airport with looong turnaround times due to lack of processing capacities, Bucharest Henry Coanda overwhelmed by its own infrastructure shortcomings and double digit increase on air traffic from all the other scheduled carriers.
But don't worry there are plenty of intercity express trains linking Constantza to Bucharest in less than three hours.
YULMRS From France, joined Mar 2005, 193 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1479 times:
Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 16): Which routes from ALC, GRO, PSA and MRS face frequency reductions then? Usually FR list them at the bottom of the press release, but they haven't this time...
3 new routes out of MRS (BHX, MAN and EDI), so FR is probably basing a 3rd aircraft there.
They say 50 new routes but only 18 from the UK are listed on the website, so 32 still missing, we will see new announcements soon.
To any North American carrier, send us a regular flight in MRS !!!!!
Callumm92 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2007, 113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1431 times:
Quoting YULMRS (Reply 22): Anyone has a list of all the 50 routes ?
Well, after a bit of research, I've come up with:
Alicante to: EDI, MME, NQY, ZAZ
Barcelona Girona to: BHX, MAN, NQY
Bremen to: EDI, MAN, VRN
Cork to: CCF
Düsseldorf Weeze to: BZG, WRO
East Midlands to: AHO, EGC, FNI, RMI
Frankfurt Hahn to: SOB, BIQ, EDI, GRX, SVQ, TPS, VRN, WRO
Liverpool to: AGP, NTE
London Stansted to: ANG, FAO
Marseille to: BHX, BOH, EDI, AGP, MAN
Milan Bergamo to: ARW, MAN
Pisa to: BHX, BLL, BRI, CND, EDI, TRF
Shannon to: ALC, BGY, BIQ, CCF, MJV, NTE, TSF
Stockholm Skavsta to: RMI
Some of those may have already been announced and are restarts of seasonal routes etc. Let me know if you spot any, but I think those count up to 50 new routes?
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 4985 posts, RR: 39 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1320 times:
Todays Scotsman suggests theres more to come next year - 2 or 3 new routes to be launched next year, plus possibly 12 more if the airport is chosen as a base. 4 other airports are being considered for a base, with one or two of them to be selected.
Easyjet have also reported that they would double the number of based aircraft to 8 if they can negotiate a similar deal to Ryanair!
Looking good for the future at EDI!
That'll teach you
25 Cornish: I'd imagine one or two Polish routes from EDI would be highly likely, given how FR have really tapped into the UK-Poland market since EU accession.
26 Nighthawk: possible - but centralwings have quite a few services to EDI, and they are probably better known in poland. Easyjet tried a few, and looks like they
27 Sandyb123: I don't like Ryanair. But I am sure there will be plenty of frugal Scots willing to travel in their terrible planes, receiving terrible service next y
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