AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1265 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5735 times:
Wow..neat. This is better than not offering the flight at all. Now I wish DL would bring back EDI to ATL with the 757 or better yet come on DL lets do ATL-GLA with a 763ER!!! Don't make us go to Scotland via JFK! (Argh).
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3804 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5630 times:
It's nice that people can look out the window on this ATL-SNN flight and point to Logan Airport and its...nice...underutilized...white-elephant...Delta...terminal...which...should...have...its...own...nonstop...to...Shannon.
Or, put another way, the folks at Massport will be able to look up as this flight contrails overhead.
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5575 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 4): Though it's not even the longest 757 route for DL. That title still belongs to JFK-FRA, at a whooping 13nm more than ATL-SNN .
CVG-AMS will be longest for DL's 757 routes.
JFK-FRA 3855 miles
ATL-SNN 3841 miles
CVG-AMS 4142 miles
DL AMS-CVG With 757 (by LIPZ Nov 15 2007 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=3706399&searchid=3710094&s=CVG-AMS#ID3710094
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5522 posts, RR: 57 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5495 times:
EIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 821 posts, RR: 16 Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5440 times:
Great news for SNN...
I presume this runs in parallel with the 757 to JFK and then the two 763ERs from DUB to JFK and ATL? Great to see the extra presence with nonstop services.
I am actually looking forward to my first Delta flight on Thursday morning... the DL165 from DUB to JFK. Have heard plenty of good things about DL across the pond lately. Not really looking forward to the Comair flight to PWM though!
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4583 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5388 times:
Quoting EIDAA (Reply 9): the two 763ERs from DUB to JFK and ATL?
DUB-ATL will be a 764ER next summer.
As for the 752s being introduced into transatlantic service from ATL and CVG, my guess is that some of that flying was originally intended for JFK (e.g, JFK-CMN) but because of the congestion issue at JFK, DL has had to postpone/cut down on some of the planned 752 flying out of JFK and only concentrate on the 'priority' ones
Styles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 524 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5341 times:
Will the JFK SNN JFK be with an all economy service aircraft while the ATL SNN ATL will be two cabin service? Is this because DL hasn't fitted out all the B757s the same way? If so, do they intend to do so?
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4583 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5343 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7): ATL-EDI also being re-introduced for S08 using 757s
Yes, the JFK and ATL 752s will rotate at EDI (i.e., the JFK-EDI aircraft becomes the EDI-ATL flight, and vice versa).
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5975 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5318 times:
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 5): It's nice that people can look out the window on this ATL-SNN flight and point to Logan Airport and its...nice...underutilized...white-elephant...Delta...terminal...which...should...have...its...own...nonstop...to...Shannon.
Or, put another way, the folks at Massport will be able to look up as this flight contrails overhead.
I really believe that if Delta wanted customs in Terminal A it couldlean on Massport and US Customs and it woild have it. It is not as simple as Massport saying no.
Sxf24 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1225 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5317 times:
Quoting Styles9002 (Reply 11): Will the JFK SNN JFK be with an all economy service aircraft while the ATL SNN ATL will be two cabin service? Is this because DL hasn't fitted out all the B757s the same way? If so, do they intend to do so?
JFK-SNN will be sold as two class service once the aircraft has been modified with B/E seats and AVOD in both classes.
In addition to the previously mentioned CVG-AMS, the current longest 757 flight (that I know of, feel free to correct me) is Northwest's DTW-DUS, which is roughly 200nm longer than ATL-SNN.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21229 posts, RR: 19 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5236 times:
Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 13): I really believe that if Delta wanted customs in Terminal A it couldlean on Massport and US Customs and it woild have it. It is not as simple as Massport saying no.
Indeed not. CBP has categorically told Massport that they will not staff a second FIS facility at BOS.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5975 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 5): It's nice that people can look out the window on this ATL-SNN flight and point to Logan Airport and its...nice...underutilized...white-elephant...Delta...terminal...which...should...have...its...own...nonstop...to...Shannon.
Or, put another way, the folks at Massport will be able to look up as this flight contrails overhead.
Chris,
Delta could begin SNN-BOS tomorrow if the wanted into terminal A. SNN has pre-clearence to the US. No need to go to Terminal E. It appears that it is DL's decision not to begin the service.
GWYIRE From Ireland, joined Sep 2005, 43 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5002 times:
Shannon is also scheduled to get US customs clearance so any US bound flight can arrived both Imigration and customes cleared. Will be great for those connecting as there will be no need to reclaim bags
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3804 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4921 times:
Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 18): Delta could begin SNN-BOS tomorrow if the wanted into terminal A. SNN has pre-clearence to the US. No need to go to Terminal E. It appears that it is DL's decision not to begin the service.
Thanks...that is true between Boston and Shannon. But the larger issue is the collapse of plans Delta originally had for several transatlantic routes from Boston...not just Ireland. And while Delta would have been able to field a Shannon route out of their own terminal, they wouldn't have been able to do so on other European routes. And that's where the whole Delta-Massport snafu came into play (relative to Massport's insistence that international flights launch from their Terminal E rather than Delta's Terminal A).
This is about Atlanta, not Boston, so I'll stop here. But the irony didn't escape me that Delta has pretty much frozen its Boston operations in place while expanding elsewhere.
2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4859 times:
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 5): It's nice that people can look out the window on this ATL-SNN flight and point to Logan Airport and its...nice...underutilized...white-elephant...Delta...terminal...which...should...have...its...own...nonstop...to...Shannon.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4813 times:
As a side, how routes are now officially scheduled with the 757? Providing I counted wrong, it should now be 12 flights,
ATL-EDI*/SNN, CVG-AMS, JFK-AGP*/BRU/CDG/FRA/LYS*/MAN/ORY*/SNN. And are those 4 routes marked with a star the only non-daily routes, and would the timings allow DL to use only 3 757s to operate those 4 flights?
25 ScottishLaddie: ATL-EDI is 3x weekly in June rising to daily for the rest of summer, currently stops at the end of September though. You haven't mentioned JFK-EDI th
26 Delta4eva: I believe SLC-OGG is scheduled for a 757 next summer. Will this be the ex-TWA or the ex-ATA birds?
27 EI321: Great! My fav plane returns!! Will it be all coach or is there business class?
28 Panamair: ATL-DUB will have Business on the 764ER. Actually, there won't be any all-coach 764s plying the Atlantic next year. The routes flown last summer with
29 DAL767400ER: Should feature BizE by next summer, IIRC, the majority, if not all, of the 764s headed for transatlantic flights are already being re-fitted with a B
30 HeeBeeGB: LGW-JFK to be downgraded to a 752 for s08? Once or double daily?
31 Panamair: LGW-JFK will go 752 as soon as LHR-JFK starts at the end of March 2008. At that time, DL will be operating 2x daily JFK-LHR (763ER), and 1x daily JFK
32 Delta4eva: LGW-JFK will be downgraded to once daily 752 next summer, due to 2x LHR-JFK.
33 Flynavy: The Hawaii operation will be staffed with all the ex-TZ birds. There are talks about fitting these birds with the same AVOD system being deployed thr
34 DAL767400ER: Guess I forgot about JFK-LGW being downgraded to a 757 as well. So, a total of 13 757s assigned, and 4 more that are not yet assigned. Hmm, let the g
36 COEI2007: Yeh but BOS has a daily 330 to SNN with EI.....
37 B752OS: It would be nice to see DL do a BOS-SNN run, the market is much larger than ATL-SNN, then again DL has a fortress hub in ATL gets connections to make
38 Delta4eva: I don't see it happening. Maybe one or two more JFK-LHR frequencies through the years as slots come available, but the expense of new slots is immens
39 EI564: Yes, that makes sense. Fly the biggest SNN market (JFK) all year round and throw in the extra ATL service during the peak summer months, where the hu
40 WorldTraveler: just one more reason to go after UA.
41 Aviateur: ATL to EDI is 3484 nautical miles. The above citation is, I think, for statute miles. If we're going to be talking airline/aircraft ranges, we should
42 DAL767400ER: AGP offers incentives for longhaul flights and is within 757 range from JFK. Neither applies to WAW. Doubt it, it's more economics. UA (and US) are l
43 Thrust: Of course, the 757s that will be used will be the ex-TWA ones, as they are the only ETOPS certified ones in DL's fleet now.
44 Bambicruz: Would be a great Idea in my opinion. Since DL codeshares with AT (which was considering ATL some time ago), I believe they can take some of the Afric
45 Cubsrule: The old terminal would be hard-pressed to handle another widebody from the US. We won't see an American carrier in WAW until 2009 at the earliest.
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