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Many New Int'l Flights From Miami:  
User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34363 posts, RR: 70
Posted (15 years 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3240 times:

Under the mists of a $5.4B redesign, Miami International Airport has seen virtually no growth in domestic and international traffic, allowing other airports to pass it in the rankings. While the "all-new" MIA, which will include new American, Iberia, United, and StarAlliance hubs, does not open for another 6 years while it is constructed around the current airport, the airport does expect a steady increase next year as work in some terminals completes (the big projects left are the new American and United terminals, a TrAAm, and a Miami MetroRail subway station to connect to the current citywide system). Here are some new flights coming in the spring:

-Midway, Miami/Raleigh, four times weekly (compliements existing daily service on American)
-Air France, second daily to Paris/CDG (compliments existing daily service on American and Continental)
-Northwest/KLM, four daily to Amsterdam (compliments existing daily service on MartinAir)
-British Airways, two more dailies to Heathrow (compliments exsiting twice-daily service on British and American, and daily on Continental and Virgin)
-Iberia, additional dailies to Madrid (compliments existing twice-daily service to Madrid and daily American service)
-American, daily to Maricaibo
-LanChilie, daily to Quito and Guayquil (compliments exsiting dailies on American)
-Lufthansa, Miami-to-Munich service (compliments existing daily on LTU/Lufthansa codeshare)
-Lufthansa, Vienna-to-Miami service
-El Al, 747 service to Tel Aviv (has commenced on limited basis)

Also in the planning are new services fom Singapore Airlines and Air Lingus, and United plans to expand international service.

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User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (15 years 3 weeks ago) and read 3172 times:

some sounds rational, others don´t, sorry.
could you provide us with sources please?

there´s no!!!! codeshare between ltu and lufthansa! you must be referring to lufthansa/lauda air.


If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineWolfpacker From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (15 years 3 weeks ago) and read 3164 times:

FYI - The Midway service will be 3 times daily.

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

The AMS-MIA service of KLM/NW is only daily (4 daily flights is a little too much). Moreover, Martianair will drop probably two weekly flights to MIA.

Laurens Janssen

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34363 posts, RR: 70
Reply 4, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3115 times:

I'm sorry, I completely missread the article. The Miami to Munich and Vienna to Miami service is Lufthansa only. The source is an article in the paper Miami Today News (http://www.miamitodaynews.com/news/010118/story7.shtml). The four-daily on Northwest/KLM didn't make sense to me, either, but one has to remember that, Miami is the 2nd busiest international airport in the country in international traffic (I believe, though, it is now 3rd, slighly behind LAX) and one of only three (JFK, LAX, MIA) were international passenger numbers are over 10M. Northwest/KLM four times daily is nothing shocking, though I did think it was unusual.

User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Sounds more like 4 times weekly!

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

4 daily AMS-MIA flights? I doubt it. JFK doesn't even get 4 daily flights, and it's the #1 intl. airport in the US. I doubt that there is a market for SIA in Miami, that also doesn't sound likely, besides, not even the 772LR could make it nonstop.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34363 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

It's probably daily, maybe four times weekly. Miami News Today was probably wrong. Before the article, I did hear daily. There is defintley a market for SIA and other Asian destinations (Hong Kong and Tokyo especially) in Miami. Miami is the hub for Latin America. American currently operates one-stop service to Tokyo. With plans now flying from JFK to Hong Kong, it won't be long before Miami-Hong Kong and Miami-Singapore becomes a reality. Couldn't the new Airbus A380, which Singapore Airlines has a number of orders for, make the flight? The new MIA international terminal, which will be mainly used by United and StarAlliance, will be done in 2005/06, which is just about the same time that A380 deliveries begin. Though JFK-Singapore will come way before Miami-Singapore does, and I really don't think JFK-Singapore is far off.

User currently offlineTriley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

What do you mean with Continental? Do you mean a codeshare with Virgin Atlantic because as far as I know they only have flights out of Houston, Cleveland, and Newark to international destinantions.

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

CO has codeshares with AF and VS. The A380 has an 8000nm range, MIA-SIN is just over 9000nm. The 747X has a max range of 8900nm, the 772LR's is 8800nm. JFK-SIN is out of the A380's reach too, 8200nm.

User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 698 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3039 times:

You are definitely wrong about BA with additional 2 flights to make 4 daily. What they are doing is canceling their daily Gatwick flight and moving it to Heathrow, effective this summer. That's all. Still just 2 flights daily. Somebody is smoking something here.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34363 posts, RR: 70
Reply 11, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

As many might know, MIA is currently undergoing a redesign. An "all-new" airport is being built over the current one. This redesign is going to be even more vital since the Homestead airport idea has been shot down, and the land will probably now become a giant movie studio complex. My number's might be rough, but I believe the American Airlines "Super Terminal" will have 57 or 59 gates. The smaller United Airlines terminal will have 28 gates and be used by UA and StarAlliance members. An all-new shopping area will also be built at MIA. Plans also include an Intermodel Terminal conencted by peoplemover for picking up buses, rental cars, commuter rail, AmTrak, and the new Florida bullet train, a subway station (expanded from the current Earlington Heights Station), and a fourth runway. Capacity of the new airport will be nearly double, at 60 to 70M passengers. American Airlines plans 330 daily flights (currently 192) from their new terminal. Other big players in the expansion re United Airlines, LanChilie, and Iberia. Pictures and a video of the airport are here:


It was designed by world renowned, Miami-based Arquitectonica, know for thier futuristic, modern desgins, who also desgined Miami's American Airlines Arena.

User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 7357 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

Miami won't see much domestic expansion in the near-term either; American's dominance of domestic traffic there means that fares are considerably higher than FLL or PBI. I suspect that in 5 years, FLL will have more domestic traffic than MIA owing to lower fare levels (and greater convenience of a slightly smaller airport).

From my experience, clearing customs at MIA is a major drag. The place is a zoo!

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34363 posts, RR: 70
Reply 13, posted (15 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2997 times:

Scott, FLL is expected to overtake MIA in domestic flights very soon, much sooner than five years. International flights make up 48% of MIA traffic, and that number will grow, while the domestic numbers will fall. FLL is also undergoing expansion, mainly for new Southwest gates as Southwest turns FLL into it's newest hub (or minihub). Miami-based Spirit Airlines also is growing, and Delta remains the dominant FLL carrier. FLL has huge growth in the future for domestic flights, while they also plan to add a small number of Trans-atlantic flights (currently only Frankfurt on Condor). According to the Miami Herald, either British Airways may be landing in FLL soon, or Delta will start an FLL-Heathrow route. FLL also has become a key player in the Caribean market. Kellmark, I thought that the Gatwick flight had already been discontinued, since I read about the discontinuation so long ago, so you are right.

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