Cybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 447 posts, RR: 10 Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7471 times:
The news are coming out and i'm really confused. It seems that Aeropostal (VH) is facing their final days around. Today an employees strike hit the company, leaving 12 flights on the ground. This days as you might now are critical for a lot of people who are trying to spend a few days out for Christmas and this strike is leaving a lot of passengers in CCS and the other cities that VH serves.
In the other hand INAC (The Venezuelan aeronautical institute) is managing the possibility of closing them, getting backed up with a lot of claims from the passengers. They are pretty screwed up because their reputation had become pretty bad from last year. According to the press they used to have a fleet of 22 planes and now they are managing to operate with only 3 aircraft. The INAC is waiting for a response until Jan 4th and then they will deliberate the faith of VH in the following 15 days.
Luisde8cd From Venezuela, joined Aug 2004, 2516 posts, RR: 34 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7444 times:
Well I just hope that VH finally dies, we (venezuelan pax) deserve better than this. This strike action by the employees is basically a harikiri which will result in VH's demise. I also hope that S3 gets VH's rights to MIA from both VLN and CCS and that all VH employees will quickly find new and better jobs in other airlines.
Viasa we miss you!. Good times will return after Chavez is gone!
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1821 posts, RR: 26 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7397 times:
Not impressed at all... It was time that someone did something about the insane management VH has been experiencing. One of my friends got his flight to PMV delayed for almost 24hrs... is that acceptable at all?
Let's wait to see what will happen.
Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
Rleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 490 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7396 times:
Sad news indeed. This is the last Venezuelan legacy carrier that stills operating. However, their service is pretty bad and the constant delays due to a poor management will eventually lead the airline to cease operations.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7308 times:
This is unfortunate.
Traffic between Miami and Venezuela is at absolute record levels (in October, Aeropostal's MIA traffic was up 116% and Santa Barbara was up 68%), but Aeropostal is falling apart, partly at fault, it seems, of the Venezuelan government.
And the sad fact is that this might leave Valencia without service to the U.S. for a while, because neither Venezuela or the U.S. are approving new flights between the two countries. Two airlines - American and Avior - have MIA-VLN applications "on hold." Santa Barbara does not have the rights to fly MIA-VLN. They only have the rights to MIA-CCS, FLL-CCS, and MIA-MAR. The Venezuelan government is also stopping Spirit from FLL-CCS and American Eagle from SDQ-CCS and SJU-PMV. And, in return, that means the U.S. isn't allowing Avior to start not only MIA-VLN, but MIA-PMV and MIA-CGU (which they hope to start in February, but likely won't get approved for).
Ogre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 693 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7232 times:
Ahhh.... What a pity. My first flight on a DC9 was in Aeropostal in August 1976 (I was 4 months old). It is a pity that they go. I was never really impressed by their service, but as I grow older, it makes me sad to see many airlines I flew as a child gone (Pan Am, Viasa, Eastern, Avensa, Aeropostal, Swissair).
I think he means PZO....Puerto Ordaz or Ciudad Guayana. I had read something about that, with the renovations done to the terminal and the new runway. It had been proposed for avior to start a MAO-PZO flight along with looking into a PZO-USA flight sometime in February 08 or so.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73 Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 7128 times:
Quoting Venezuela747 (Reply 9): I think he means PZO....Puerto Ordaz or Ciudad Guayana. I had read something about that, with the renovations done to the terminal and the new runway. It had been proposed for avior to start a MAO-PZO flight along with looking into a PZO-USA flight sometime in February 08 or so.
Correct. Avior plans to launch MIA-PZO non-stops on 14FEB08. Of course, if Venezuela doesn't approva AA MIA-VLN and NK FLL-CCS, US DOT will not approve MIA-PZO for Avior.
Cybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 447 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 7086 times:
As MAH4546 said VH had one of their best records in the CCS-MIA route. Miami is such a collapsed market for Venezuelans. All the flights are full until the end of January, in fact LA had opened another frequencies which have been already sold out. This is completely out of the hands of the current airlines, i mean all the flights are full including the flights that have a stopover (CM, TA, DL, CO, AV, MX). So what is the solution? i think that the INAC and FAA should start their approval for NK FLL-CCS, AA MIA-VLN, 9V VLN/PZO-MIA so in that way relax a little bit the chaos situation on the route.
Now with this VH situation the panorama got worse...now the passengers that had their tickets with VH to MIA had to figure out how will they arrive to their destination. I think that VH opened a special flight for those who got stranded on CCS but i didn't find any article or proof about it.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 7069 times:
Quoting Cybergus (Reply 11): As MAH4546 said VH had one of their best records in the CCS-MIA route. Miami is such a collapsed market for Venezuelans. All the flights are full until the end of January, in fact LA had opened another frequencies which have been already sold out. This is completely out of the hands of the current airlines, i mean all the flights are full including the flights that have a stopover (CM, TA, DL, CO, AV, MX). So what is the solution? i think that the INAC and FAA should start their approval for NK FLL-CCS, AA MIA-VLN, 9V VLN/PZO-MIA so in that way relax a little bit the chaos situation on the route.
Yup. Plus AA is doing their best to schedule larger planes to Caracas (no more 738s, just 757s and A300s right now) and is considering switching MIA-MAR to an A300 flight in the spring. And Santa Barbara is now using 763s to Miami on a scheduled basis to handle the demand. Miami-Venezuela has absolutely exploded, although demand between Venezuela and the rest of the country has absolutely collapsed (sans San Juan), and Miami is now accounting for nearly 75% of USA-Venezuela traffic, when it typically accounted for around 45%.
Aviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 12 Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 7057 times:
Save Aeropostal !
Below is a link to an article I wrote a couple of years back, describing a domestic flight I took aboard Aeropostal out of Caracas. It talks about the carrier's history, and includes a "report card" of my experience ...
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5857 posts, RR: 40 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 6945 times:
well not a big surprise... even I still have great memories about VH's "operation and great customers-service" from this year... 2 x 5 hours delays, several short delays of around 2 hours... some bigger delays for family members...
problems with luggage... etc etc etc etc..
Cybergus From Venezuela, joined Mar 2006, 447 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 6932 times:
Guys...these videos are something to see...they were taped by an angry passenger who's flight was delayed for 24hours and then when the 24h passed...surprise! there was no plane, so they decided to take the ramp of CCS as a measure of strike.
Rleiro From Venezuela, joined Jan 2006, 490 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 6876 times:
Quote: but Aeropostal is falling apart, partly at fault, it seems, of the Venezuelan government.
I have to admit here that this is not a political issue. Aeropostal's management during the last years were involved in extremely ambitious plans amid a strong competition. For example the "Alas de Centroamerica" project:
They pretended to be a competition for TACA in the Central American market... With 35 - 40 year old planes and basing a hub in San Jose, the same airport in which TACA has its hub... Obviously this project never took off.
After the demise of VIASA in 1997, Aeropostal's plans were to become a charter airline offering flights between Europe and the Caribbean, by taking the routes left by VIASA... This also resulted in a financial disaster.
Now the UFly project... the rebirth of Falcon Air. Basically, UFly (owned by the same owners of Aeropostal) was going to provide the MD-8X to Aeropostal for its international networl, and Aeropostal would keep the DC-9s for the domestic ones. The INAC refused to extend the lifetime of many of these airplanes, and the DOT has not granted yet the permission to UFly to start operations.
In the while we have Aserca which is rising rapidly with a large fleet of DC-9s, taking many employees of Aeropostal with them, people with years of experience operating this type of airplane, by offering better job conditions and salaries. On the other hand, the unattended routes of Aeropostal (the ones to Colombia, Ecuador and Peru) were revoked by the INAC. So, I would not be surprised to see Aserca or Santa Barbara flying to the Andean region in the coming months (Santa Barbara already has a flight to Guayaquil).
To sum up. The future of Aeropostal is pretty dark. I do not believe we will see her anymore in the coming months.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3191 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6629 times:
This is very sad to hear of. The article and the videos both told the story of this once-great Venezuelan airline. Perhaps another significant aspect of this story is how Aeropostal actually got its name and its significance in Trinidad aviation. Aeropostal was originally a French-owned company, Compagne General Aeropostal de Aviation which was set up in the 1920s and offered services across Latin America and the Caribbean. It collapsed in 1933 but the name was taken over by Venezuela while many of the regional services were taken over by the nascent Air France. Compagne Aeropostal was the first airline to serve POS (as in Piarco Airport) in 1931 - while Pan Am was in Trinidad several years earlier it used a seaplane base it built in Cocorite, just West of Port of Spain. Pan Am would not fly to Piarco until 1949, when it abandoned seaplane operations worldwide. Aeropostal in its later incarnation of Linea Aeropostal Venezolana was a regular at POS and its DC-9s offered PMV and CCS on very regular services. In the 1970s and 1980s it was very popular with shoppers from Trinidad who flew over to buy lovely Venezuelan goods - shoes, jewelry, handbags and the like - at great prices. I went to Venezuela on Aeropostal in 1987 on a school trip and flew to Puerto Ordaz - in part I can credit this trip, which was part of my Spanish language education, with my ability to speak Spanish to this day.
Aeropostal served POS until its 1994 demise. When it was reborn as Alas de Venzuela it returned to POS and has been a regular fixture until now - sadly its decline was apparent when I was in POS awaiting a flight to TAB in November, while a flight of VH to CCS was on the boards nobody appeared at the check-in counters or to check-in, making it apparent that the flight was actually cancelled.
Lo siento mucho amigos. Aeropostal esta una linea con una historia larga y grande. La linea se amerita mas mejor de esta.
In English - I'm very sorry my friends. Aeropostal is an airline with a long and great history and deserved much better than this.
This is true. I would say, that Aeropostal was a pionier!
Here is a list of planes that was operated by Aeropostal:
BAe (HS) 748
Curtis C-46 Commando
DeHavilland Comet 1 (not delivered after the crashs of the 1950s)
Lockheed L-10 Electra (not L-188)
Lockheed L-18 Lodestar
Lockheed L-049 Constellation
Lockheed L-749 Constellation
Lockheed L-1049 SuperConstellation
Mc Donnell Douglas MD-82
Mc Donnell Douglas MD-83
Vickers Viscount 701