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Saudia Restructuring In 2008  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6086 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

According to this site http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200...dia-major-network-restructure.html some of the route cuts seem unrealistic.

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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3555 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2098 times:
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As you said some of the routes cuts are not realistic.But the first thing Saudia should do is retrain there ground staff to be more friendly.Really ground Saudia staff are terrible.Check in is a nightmare.Luggage arrive broken or very dirty.Best thing to happen to Saudia is privatization.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

A Saudi expert is needed in this area.

  • When the term "privatized" is used in Saudi Arabia, what does that mean? Is it truly being sold to outside investors? Will only Saudi citizens be allowed any form of ownership? Or is it just being "transferred" to one of the various distant royals?

  • In reference to SV "improving", what competition does it have? On many routes, what are the alternatives? And what incentives does it have to improve?

    Having never flown them, I cannot say anything about them - but from the information I have about Saudi Arabia itself, it seems that everything in the kingdom is a mystery.

    All insights appreciated!!



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    User currently offlineUsdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1010 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

    The best thing that could happen to that airline is for the Saudi government to encourage tourism by letting most people in without a visa for 90 says. If you can't get into the country, you will have little or no reason to fly SV.

    User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

    Is SV keeping their 747-400s? It seems ridiculous to keep them according to the list on the link.

    User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1163 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 days ago) and read 1814 times:



    Quoting AF022 (Reply 4):
    Is SV keeping their 747-400s?

    SV has put fourteen of their twenty-seven 747s for sale.
    Their offer covers nine 747-300 and five 747-100, so looks like the 747-400s will stay for now.
    Don't think there is a big market for 25 year old 747-100s.



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    User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1783 times:



    Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 5):
    SV has put fourteen of their twenty-seven 747s for sale.
    Their offer covers nine 747-300 and five 747-100, so looks like the 747-400s will stay for now.
    Don't think there is a big market for 25 year old 747-100s.

    Where are they going to use four 747-400s? The article said only one short-haul route. This didn't make much sense.


    User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3555 posts, RR: 17
    Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
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    Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
    When the term "privatized" is used in Saudi Arabia, what does that mean? Is it truly being sold to outside investors? Will only Saudi citizens be allowed any form of ownership? Or is it just being "transferred" to one of the various distant royals?

    I am no expert.But my definition of privatized is to be sold to investors.65% Saudi and 35% foreign investments.

    Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 2):
    In reference to SV "improving", what competition does it have? On many routes, what are the alternatives? And what incentives does it have to improve?

    Inside Saudi there no big competitors now but the new private airline sorry forgot the name is making a killing planes full weeks in advance.Still on a small scale but i am sure they will grow fast.
    International competitors are plenty,Saudia has it neighbors to the East to worry about i.e. Emirates,Etihad,Quatar,Gulf even Egyptair gives a better service.



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    User currently offlineBrightCedars From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 1290 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1660 times:

    Seeing the list, it's really odd to see such a move. I mean I think I know SV's planes are far from full and it would be far from break-even point not to mention profitable by most standards.

    But cutting down capacity and actually frequency so bad on so many routes, and keeping some at the ridiculous 1 x week frequency sounds so unrealistic. As if they're giving up the entire long-haul market to the Gulf carriers.

    I'm also surprised at the lack of frequency on domestic routes. Are there (high-speed) trains in place on those?



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    User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3980 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

    Seems to be some pretty drastic cuts and downgrades!

    User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6086 posts, RR: 4
    Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

    Which destinations are being suspended?

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