1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5389 times:
I was wondering if anyone would know this. I have been wondering whether Delta plans to include LED mood lighting on their 777-200LRs. I know that it is now an option on the 777-200LR and 777-300ER, and I would think it would be nice if Delta chose to go with that feature. Air Canada's 777-200LRs and 777-300ERs feature it:
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5361 times:
To go back and MOD their current aircraft.....??? Doubtful..... it would cost $10's of thousands per plane to go back and do that. PLUS.... there must be a SB or EO to even allow you to do that.
[Edited 2007-12-20 14:18:36]
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21027 posts, RR: 60 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5353 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1): To go back and MOD their current aircraft.....??? Doubtful.....
Good thing the OP didn't ask about doing that then.
He is asking about the 8 new 77Ls coming DL's way starting this year. My guess is yes, they will have it. But it's just a guess.
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1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5259 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2): He is asking about the 8 new 77Ls coming DL's way starting this year. My guess is yes, they will have it. But it's just a guess.
Exactly. Of course Delta won't upgrade the 777-200ERs to them. However, they did get cooler white fluorescent lights.
And not all 777NGs feature mood lighting. I don't think AF's 77Ws feature it.
Boeing now also offers an option not to include center bins on the First/Business class section on the 777;
However, I have heard at Flyertalk, Delta's 777-200LRs will include center bins for the BusinessElite section.
However, I also wonder if Delta will include gasper vents on their 777-200LRs. Gasper vents on 777s are a rarity, and Delta is one of very few airlines who has them on their 777-200ERs.
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Absimilliard From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5196 times:
I flew a AC B767-300ER that got XM in business class and they still got the center bins. So, that literally means that you got a a bin for each passenger! (2 on the side with one seat per row). Any reasons why an airline would not include bins in the middle for J class?
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5155 times:
Quoting Absimilliard (Reply 4): I flew a AC B767-300ER that got XM in business class and they still got the center bins. So, that literally means that you got a a bin for each passenger! (2 on the side with one seat per row). Any reasons why an airline would not include bins in the middle for J class?
Perhaps to save weight. The outer bins are larger than the center bins, and since there are fewer seats, it might be better to leave them out if passengers won't use them over the larger outer bins.
BTW, AC's 777NGs were ordered with the center bins. I don't think I have ever seen a 767 without them.
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21027 posts, RR: 60 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5134 times:
Quoting Absimilliard (Reply 4): Any reasons why an airline would not include bins in the middle for J class?
well, with large suite products like on SQ's J class, there aren't many seats per row and there is storage at the seat itself.
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1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5029 times:
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 6): well, with large suite products like on SQ's J class, there aren't many seats per row and there is storage at the seat itself.
Do the Contour Premium sleeper suites have a zone for storage? As I stated earlier, a user at Flyertalk told me that they will feature center overhead bins.
On some early widebodies such as some DC-10s and L-1011s, there were no center overhead bins in any class. With people now carrying more luggage, this mandated the move for aircraft manufacturers to include them. I know Delta's L-1011-1s did not feature center bins, while the -500s did. I think the L-1011-250s, since they were converted L-1011-1s, were retrofitted with center bins.
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4996 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7): On some early widebodies such as some DC-10s and L-1011s, there were no center overhead bins in any class.
Yes I remember many flights on early DC-10s and L1011s without the center bins. They made the cabin seem much more spacious, which is also one reason why some carriers don't have center bins in first class cabins. Of course the original roomy 8-abreast 2-4-2 Y class seating on the early DC-10s and L1011s, as in the photo below, also made them feel much more spacious. And seat pitch was at least 34 inches then.
Absimilliard From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 4812 times:
The AC A330-300 and A340-300 don't have center bins in J class and it get tight! If they got complaints from frequent flyers regarding that, I can see why they ordered them for the 777.
SkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 333 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days ago) and read 4796 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3): However, I also wonder if Delta will include gasper vents on their 777-200LRs. Gasper vents on 777s are a rarity, and Delta is one of very few airlines who has them on their 777-200ERs.
What is a gasper vent
What does it do..its purpose?
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4676 times:
Quoting LHR777 (Reply 11): I believe it's the individual air-vents over each block of seats. As featured on AA's 777's, but not their 767's, for example.
Exactly. All of Delta's aircraft feature gasper vents, except for the ex-ATA 757s, an ex-Asiana 757 (registration N900PC), and the ex-Gulf Air 767-300ERs.
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Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4657 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12): Exactly. All of Delta's aircraft feature gasper vents, except for the ex-ATA 757s, an ex-Asiana 757 (registration N900PC), and the ex-Gulf Air 767-300ERs.
Wow......
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4614 times:
BTW, does anyone know a reason why most 777s don't feature gasper vents? Is it even an option on the 787? All 787 cabin mockups I have seen do not feature them.
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Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21027 posts, RR: 60 Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4573 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7): Do the Contour Premium sleeper suites have a zone for storage? As I stated earlier, a user at Flyertalk told me that they will feature center overhead bins.
I don't think they do, or not large enough for a big bag. SQ's product is much larger (uses more space per seat) so that might make a difference. But the bins go so high into the crown anyway, I'm not sure if they take away much headroom. it's likely more a weight thing.
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 14): BTW, does anyone know a reason why most 777s don't feature gasper vents?
the bins are very high up on the new interior, and the dispersal pattern would mean you are going to bother your neighbor. just look at how the overhead lights spill onto everything. the air quality and circulation on a 777 is also superior to a tight narrowbody, making them largely unneeded. I've never seemed to need one myself on a widebody, wishing the plane had htem, but use them on narrowbodies all the time.
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Super80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4284 times:
Kind of off topic here...but I remember I was on a DL MD90 this year and there was some green light came out during flight from the handles right below the carry-on baggage bin doors..... does anyone know those are mood light or something else ?
Super80 From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 133 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4241 times:
Kind of off topic here...but I remember I was on a DL MD90 this year and there was some green light came out during flight from the handles right below the carry-on baggage bin doors..... does anyone know those are mood light or something else ?
Is it me, or is that Groucho Marx standing there in that picture of the AA DC-10 Cabin?
As for Gasper Vents, I am aware that they can spread germs faster, but they also help me out. It is a rarity, in the summer time, for me to get on an airplane without already sweating. The Gasper vents do a good job in cooling me off.
Also, there have been times where I have had trouble breathing (sitting next to 2 other people on a window seat), and I've needed my Gasper Vent. May just be a medical thing with me, but I find that the Gasper Vents really help.