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Alpi Eagles Flights Suspended As Of 1/1/08  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

The Italian aviation authorities have suspended the AOC of Italian operator Alpi eagles as of January 1st .
Since my Italian is quite rosty,could an Italian member of a.net try to give me the real reason behind the move ?
Officially it seems the argument was about financial viability.
I'd be interested to get the truth behind the official declarations.


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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

Well, that would make sense given the recent history of events. Naples and Venice airport both have publicly reported that Alpi Eagles would owe them huge amounts of money for landing fees and services. They have recently cut back the network dramatically and were often only operating two of their aircraft and a handful of flights. For several months, the Italian CAA only had given them a temporary AOC that now is running out again by the end of the year and supposedly will not be renewed.


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User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3515 times:
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What is the plan for their Fokker 100s?


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User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

Tyrolean (Austrian Arrows) probably...


When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3373 times:
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Quoting GRZ-AIR (Reply 3):
Tyrolean (Austrian Arrows) probably...

Is there a deal underway?



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User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

it indeed seems to be financially related:
from
ENAC statement: "For the persisting economical-financial crisis of the Italian carrier, with attendant repercussions on the execution and regularly of the services, and in accordance with the European rules, there are no necessary conditions for the maintenance of the licence"
The global amount requested by the two airports is about 6 million Euro (over 4 million Euro for SAVE) relating to the use of the airports, while the debt on Alitalia is 300,000 Euro and about 100,000 for the Italian newspaper.

The President of AlpiEagles, Paolo Sinigaglia, stated he wanted to leave AlpiEagles because "That is the will of company".
The only possible solution for the Italian manager is the company's sell-off and not the leasing to another carrier.


This seems to be the end of the airline


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3164 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3080 times:



Quoting A300 (Reply 2):
What is the plan for their Fokker 100s?

Their F100s are ex-Swissair planes, delivered in 1988. So the frames are almost 20 years old. I doubt there is heavy demand for 20-year old Fokkers.


User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3049 times:
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Quoting Joost (Reply 6):
I doubt there is heavy demand for 20-year old Fokkers.

There's always demand when the price is right.


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

The administrative court in Rome has ruled that Alpi Eagles' AOC should temporarily be extended to January 17 to give them more time to find a solution.


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User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2815 times:
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Should I mention the NW DC-9s? If well maintained, 20 years is not particularly old for aircraft. If offered, EP would probably take them ( as they have with a number of ex-KE and JJ F100s).


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User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 9 hours ago) and read 2576 times:



Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
The Italian aviation authorities have suspended the AOC of Italian operator Alpi eagles as of January 1st .

So whats up?? I checked today live-time departures at VCE and E8 was still flying-strangely, I can't book flights...

ANY information more than welcomed!

chris


User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

Hi Chris,
See two posts above, they have managed to keep their AOC until January 17 for now.
Cheers
Thomas



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User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2399 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2233 times:



Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 11):
Hi Chris,
See two posts above, they have managed to keep their AOC until January 17 for now.
Cheers
Thomas

Alpi Eagles suspended all flights today on January 3rd 2008.
The first grounded carrier for 2008 I guess.  cry 

However, we have to wait for the final outcome on January 17th, maybe they will re-start business.


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

In a press release, the carrier blames it all on "External agents" ("Check the sales data to verify how ENAC destroyed with its measures a good commercial activity"). According to ENAC, Italian Civil Aviation Authority, "AlpiEagles suspends the activity because its only operational aircraft will be subject to maintenance for 15 days".

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