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Food In Checked Baggage?  
User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 581 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11797 times:

I'm going STL to Miami changing to St. Thomas next month all on AA. I want to take some frozen food-chicken and meat. I see no regulation prohibiting this (and no other threads on A.net). Suppose the food was properly wrapped in plastic bags? Would the stuff arrive in good shape or spoiled?

Are the baggage compartments unheated? Would teh food stay frozen?

Any thoughts or direct me to antoher thread. Merry Christmas

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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11752 times:

There is no regulation prohibiting you taking the meat on these flights as they are all within the USA. Meat cannot be brought into the USA from outside North America though. As far as keeping it frozen, though, that's trickier although the low temperatures in the cargo holds (despite the fact they're usually pressurized in modern planes) would keep it almost frozen for the duration - the only risky bit is the last bit into St. Thomas though that should not be too long anyway. I do not forsee any problems taking it.

Best of luck and Happy Holidays.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26863 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11746 times:

I do it all the time when I take stuff to my family . Although its within Europe and not your route. Packing suggestions are freeze in a plastic bag then immediately before your heading to the airport take it out and double wrap the whole thing in Aluminum wrap and put that into a freezer (insulated) bag . You will have no probs at all. It always works for me .

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12220 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11736 times:
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During hunting season, we always have coolers full of meat come through. Get a cooler, use dry ice, and you will have frozen food all the way there.


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User currently offlineAnalog From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1900 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11714 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 3):
Get a cooler, use dry ice,

I believe there are special regs regarding dry ice.

For real fun put some dry ice in a tightly sealed thermos.


User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 11712 times:

Maybe invest in some thermic bags like the ones they sell at Walmart to keep your food cold or warm for long periods of time.


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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11710 times:

In the same light; is it allowed to bring outside food through security (IE: I make a PB&J at home so I don't have to buy anything) and then put it through the xray etc?


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11689 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 3):
use dry ice



Quoting Analog (Reply 4):
I believe there are special regs regarding dry ice.

You have to CLEARLY MARK that there is dry ice. Live animals cannot be put in the same luggage hold as dry ice. Not sure what the exact regualtion is but I just know this from ramp experience. On the CR7, we would put the dry ice in the front baggage hold, if we were dealing with the 50 seater, we were always told to send the animal.



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User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11680 times:



Quoting Analog (Reply 4):
I believe there are special regs regarding dry ice.

Not Really. There just has to be ventilation so the cooler/box doesn't explode, and you have to inform the gate agent about the dry ice. Other than that, as long as you don't try to bring a ridiculous amount of dry ice everything should be fine.

To the OP: Don't count on the cargo hold keeping the food cold, as your parcel could easily be placed in the forward hold, which on most aircraft is heated for pets.


User currently offlineBaghandling From Denmark, joined Jun 2007, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11672 times:



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 3):
use dry ice

Dry Ice must NOT be used in checked in baggage!!!!!!!

Dry ice must be send as cargo - dangerous goods - and that is very expensive.

best

Baghandling


User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1642 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11672 times:
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I routinely bring with me deli sandwiches or Subway subs to eat on the airplane. Food is exempt from the carry on restrictions as long as it is a small bistro type bag, but still must go through the x-ray machine, but remember no liquids.

I have also brought a small insulated lunch sized bag with me to keep sandwiches cold, and had no problem with the TSA. The bag meets the TSA carry on requirement for carrying food onboard

Sometimes if I am not going to eat the sandwich immediately, I will buy a cold bottle of water after security and use the bottle as a cold pack to keep the sandwich cold,

I feel its better to bring your own food than buy the overpriced garbage they sell on board.


User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11654 times:



Quoting Baghandling (Reply 9):
Dry Ice must NOT be used in checked in baggage!!!!!!!

Dry ice is perfectly acceptable in checked baggage in the US on most airlines.


From Delta:

Quote:
Delta will accept packages containing 4.4 lbs. (2 kgs) or less of dry ice when used to cool non-hazardous perishables in carry-on or checked baggage. The package must:
Meet carry-on baggage restrictions.
Allow the release of carbon dioxide.
Be plainly marked with: "Dry Ice" or "Carbon Dioxide Solid," the net weight of dry-ice material, and the contents being cooled.
Packages containing more than 4.4 lbs. (2 kgs) may not be accepted as carry-on or checked baggage.



User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12220 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 11650 times:
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Quoting Analog (Reply 4):
I believe there are special regs regarding dry ice.

Yes, but only regarding weight.

Quoting Baghandling (Reply 9):
Dry Ice must NOT be used in checked in baggage!!!!!!!

Dry ice must be send as cargo - dangerous goods - and that is very expensive.

You are wrong. Small amounts of dry ice are perfectly acceptable.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11610 times:



Quoting Trintocan (Reply 1):
the only risky bit is the last bit into St. Thomas though that should not be too long anyway. I do not forsee any problems taking it.

Put the stuff in freezer the day before. I should not thaw out much nor spoil. My family has done that on many GND/JFK y JFK/GND flights (5hours) and never had a problem.



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User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11575 times:

Been a while since I went to STT, but you might have an agricultural inspection as part of preclearing immigration/customs departing STT for the US mainland - I can't recall for certain, but you definitely clear customs/immigration. Even though it's a US territory you still do this on return, just not on entry.

Doesn't sound like this is an issue since you're trying to take it to STT, but FYI anyway.


User currently offline2175301 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1037 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11486 times:

The double layer fezzer bag, or other wrap works well. It even works better if you then wrap the items in a towel, t-shirts, or other garments that can be wrapped arround something. Insulation is the key. Clothing makes a fair insulation.

User currently offlineEvilForce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11481 times:

I suppose you could just bring a couple of live chickens aboard as "pets", and "prep" them once you got to the islands. If anyone objects, claim you're a Voodooist, and it's a religious rite.  Big grin  Wink

User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1642 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11460 times:
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Quoting EvilForce (Reply 16):
I suppose you could just bring a couple of live chickens aboard as "pets", and "prep" them once you got to the islands. If anyone objects, claim you're a Voodooist, and it's a religious rite.

Or list them as service animals, like some people have done with pigs and miniature horses.


User currently offlineEvilForce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11447 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 17):
Or list them as service animals, like some people have done with pigs and miniature horses.

Would that be like a seeing eye pig?  Wow!

I guess the same could apply to a seeing eye chicken. When asked about your seeing eye chicken you could say, "Well sir, now you know why the chicken crossed the road".  Wink


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