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United Cancelations Mounting...............  
User currently offlineSiouxATC From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 385 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13204 times:

First off happy holidays to all

It looks like UA is canceling a number of thier flight opperated by the A320. What is the cause of this? Crew issues I would guess......... Can anyone shed some light on what is going on? UA sent many 777s to LAS today because of what is going on with their A320 fleet.

Also, on Wed. Dec 26th I will be traveling to FRA. My routing is PHX-SFO-FRA on UA 1445 and UA 900. Will I have any problems? It looks like 1445 was already canceled for Tues. Dec 25th.

Thanks

SiouxATC

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User currently offlineJayDub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13218 times:

I overheard in a conference call that UA are expecting 200+ cancellations for today due to crew issues.

Just saying what I overheard...take that for whatever it's worth.

[Edited 2007-12-24 23:10:03]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21490 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13148 times:

So are they having end-of-month hour limit issues a la NW? Or end-of-year issues, perhaps?

It's a long way to the 31st if they have to keep cancelling like this....

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2371 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13135 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
So are they having end-of-month hour limit issues a la NW? Or end-of-year issues, perhaps?

They're called "4 day trips that start on the 23rd" issues.  Wink


User currently offlineBAW716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2027 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13136 times:

This doesn't sound aircraft related, it sounds more "labor" related. Is there something going on at UA that we are not privy to?? Perhaps UA management is starting to squeeze the unions a little more because the end is coming in 2011 and no other carrier wants to buy them??

I don't want to sound cynical here, BUT, UA is in big trouble. They know it. I've known it from the day they exited bankruptcy and I read their reorganization exit plan. What is horrible is what will happen to the employees and the traveling public who are, I suspect, vastly unaware of the situation there.

I am ex UA and I am not cynical about how I left...although I do feel a little sad because I would have liked to have stayed there (at the time)...but as it turned out, I got to do great things at AZ...and then I got hurt (s--t happens).

I have many friends at UA and it hurts me to see them suffer...but I'm sorry, I have no patience whatsoever with Tilton and Co. They had a great opportunity to do something with the airline and they screwed it up. They are desperate to find someone to buy them and help them get out of their mess...but no one wants them. Not with the $11 billion or so in debt they will have by 2011.

What gets me is why do people not know about this problem?

Can anyone explain it to me, because frankly, I am very puzzled as to why I'm the only one screaming about it.
Any takers???

thanks
baw716



David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998
User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6086 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 12853 times:



Quoting SiouxATC (Thread starter):

The 777 on the SFO-LAS,LAX-LAS was due to high passenger loads from what another thread said. But it is getting late in the month and add in a holiday, crews are just running thin I suspect. The East coast weather I am sure has not helped United's cause.

ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 12785 times:



Quoting BAW716 (Reply 4):
Is there something going on at UA that we are not privy to??

Christmas. Like AsuFlyer said this is all 4 day trip issues starting on the 23rd. This has nothing to do with UA's reorganization plan, it has to do with a bunch of pilots who dont want to do overtime on Christmas.


User currently offlineRyanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 12772 times:

Calm down people....everyone wants to be with their families on Christmas...United is not shutting the doors, no one is going on strike...people are panicking on here about nothing this morning...its called good ole fashioned FAMILY TIME! its christmas if your not flying who cars about 20 flights that are cancelled out of DEN or so?

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5152 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 12738 times:

If its a Christmas issue - why just A320 pilots?


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 12741 times:

Congrats on beating me to posting this. UA is slated to cancel most flights out of DEN today. Strangely enough it is not due to the boat load of snow we are getting but it is indeed due to staffing issues.

Quoting Ryanrap1 (Reply 7):
if your not flying who cars about 20 flights that are cancelled out of DEN or so?

FWIW, it is a lot more than 20 out of DEN alone.

*edit for addition

[Edited 2007-12-25 06:13:20]


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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2490 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 12684 times:



Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
The East coast weather I am sure has not helped United's cause.

FWIW, I flew ORD-BWI on Sunday night (actually Monday morning when all was said and done) on an A320. A senior FA hopping in the seat behind us mentioned to the flight's purser that he was asked to work some extra hours over the holiday but declined; apparently, the desire to spend some time with loved ones isn't limited to those in the front.


777fan



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 12614 times:



Quoting BAW716 (Reply 4):
I don't want to sound cynical here, BUT, UA is in big trouble. They know it.

Really. In the short term, UA seems to be making money, even with high fuel costs. Their flights are loaded. I flew back from SFO recently on a 767, and had an extensive chat with several FA's. They seemed very positive and upbeat.


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2165 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 12493 times:



Quoting ATCtower (Reply 9):
UA is slated to cancel most flights out of DEN today

No...only about 50 ...and weather in DEN is pretty rough right now
with 3/4 mile in blowing snow. Flightstats shows what is canceled.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
UA seems to be making money, even with high fuel cost

and they just put another $10 surcharge on for fuel

Quoting BAW716 (Reply 4):
I am ex UA and I am not cynical about how I left...although I do feel a little sad because I would have liked to have stayed there (at the time)...but as it turned out, I got to do great things at AZ...and then I got hurt (s--t happens).

Frying pan into the fire?  Smile  Smile been there done that.


Overall the flying in the last two weeks into the midwest has been less than optimal due to weather....that has probably reduced availability of reserves as they were already churned into the fray earlier than expected. Flight crews wanting to be home on holidays happens everywhere at all carriers to one degree or another...preplanning for it is key.

But it does give a great chance for the perennial UAL naysayers to come out and play...grin.


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 12463 times:



Quoting 777fan (Reply 10):
A senior FA hopping in the seat behind us mentioned to the flight's purser that he was asked to work some extra hours over the holiday but declined; apparently, the desire to spend some time with loved ones isn't limited to those in the front.

As he very well should. Seniority at an airline means something, that airline does not own your soul, it is just a job. For the way airlines in the US treat their employees, you can bet for sure that the employees are, on a whole, not going to want to do one single bit to help the airlines out over Christmas. Why should they? I guarantee to you that my family is more important to me than any airline ever will be. The airlines have dug themselves into this hole they're in with employee relations and they have nobody to blame but themselves.


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6439 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 12454 times:



Quoting BAW716 (Reply 4):
I don't want to sound cynical here, BUT, UA is in big trouble. They know it. I've known it from the day they exited bankruptcy and I read their reorganization exit plan. What is horrible is what will happen to the employees and the traveling public who are, I suspect, vastly unaware of the situation there.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. UA is in the same shape as the other US legacy carriers, No worse no better. Their profit for the last two quarters has been excellent. They have said they want to merge, but they have never said they want to be bought.


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4113 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 23 hours ago) and read 12445 times:

Could any of this be weather related due to the storm that went through Chicago this past weekend and prevented aircraft being available for the flights that were canceled?


Rush for ever; Yankees all the way!!
User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1427 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 22 hours ago) and read 12027 times:

Great I'll be up in DEN this afternoon pickin up my uncle who is comin in from CCS....luckily he is flying DL.
I'll try to avoid the snow and the pile up and mess that will be at the UA counters



ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineSkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11868 times:

UA was a pretty good airline/company until Wolf took over. From then 'til now, its been down hill with employee disgruntlement and "let me take as much from the company as possible" mentality more so than any other airline. IMO
They're attitude is frumby and it shows


User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6439 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11783 times:



Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Reply 17):
UA was a pretty good airline/company until Wolf took over. From then 'til now, its been down hill with employee disgruntlement and "let me take as much from the company as possible" mentality more so than any other airline. IMO
They're attitude is frumby and it shows

I think the dark times for UA began when they had the ESOP and the pilots thought they could run the airline. They quickly proved the couldn't and it took UA a bankruptcy to recover.


User currently offlineSilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2048 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11755 times:



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 18):
From then 'til now, its been down hill with employee disgruntlement and "let me take as much from the company as possible" mentality more so than any other airline.

Nothing is worse than the US employee hostility.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9485 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11757 times:

Does anyone know if we'll see more cancellations today than the ones already posted? My sister is flying SEA-SFO-SYD today and I'm flying SEA-SFO-SYD tomorrow. I saw that the 4:00pm SEA-SFO is cancelled already and she's on the 6:42pm departure. I'm hoping that more flights don't get cancelled. The weather is fine on the west coast today, but unfortunately delays and cancellations propogate throughout the entire country.


If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24785 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11650 times:



Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 18):
ESOP and the pilots thought they could run the airline.

 checkmark  Like giving children the keys to the candy store.

As noble as ESOP ownership and employee participation in management was to be, the 5 or so years under ESOP laid the ground work for a big fall UA was to take post 9/11 and culminated in the 2000 'summer of hell' when the pilots managed to hold the company hostage.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineAirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11649 times:

Weather really really sucks er..... or blows here in DEN today! Heavy snow windy I imagine that UA might be cursing DEN for the second straight year!

-Carl



If Your Dying Were Flying
User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11634 times:



Quoting Silentbob (Reply 19):
Nothing is worse than the US employee hostility.

I find this is mostly true with US East. Not the HP people.



Meanwhile, somewhere 35,000 ft above your head...
User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 538 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 11607 times:



Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 12):
No...only about 50 ...and weather in DEN is pretty rough right now
with 3/4 mile in blowing snow.

It will end up being significantly more than that, I am seeing 15+ UA flights outbound cancelled in a three hour period. That doesn't include the 12 or so cancelled arrivals in the same three hour period. The snowball effect will be taking place with UA not getting planes into DEN to get later flights out. I of course hope all are able to get to their final destination for Christmas, but 50 cancelled is a gross underestimate.

 twocents 



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25 GreenArc : 160+ flights canceled on the 24th. 320+ flights canceled so far today. Most cancellations are for lack of pilots due to weather combined with chronic
26 Spartanmjf : Showing now as of various sources [12:45 EST] 9 Departure Cancellations at IAD 6 Arrival Cancellations at IAD 2 Arrival Cancellations [DEN and LAX] at
27 Bobnwa : Would the CEO and management agree with your assessment?
28 LAXintl : 148 to be more exact 238 as of 1230 Eastern. December has been a rough month for United with multiple days of weather events at its ORD hub, in addit
29 Tango-Bravo : ...which should surprise no one, inasmuch as attitudes at any business, including airlines, flow from the top down. Self-serving, greed-driven manage
30 Mm320cap : GreenArc is 100% correct. Dont hire enough pilots, rely on JR manning by pilots on days off to staff the airline (which disappears on Xmas), add weath
31 Ualcsr : Is this a serious post? It just cracks me up that someone who very obviously has sour grapes about UA (and ends up in that well run, model of an airl
32 Bucky707 : the pilots were not the only labor group involved in the ESOP. Pilots, mechanics and ramp workers were all involved. The only major union that did no
33 Tango-Bravo : Although in a very real sense, it is not his problem. As I see it, since his singular overiding agenda is to pilfer (albeit legally) as many million$
34 Post contains images Asuflyer05 : I wish that fit into my signature. That's great!
35 Bobnwa : Management under ESOP lost the ability to negotiate with the unions(owners). Because of this the wages at UA went through the roof. When the ESOP wen
36 RyanAFAMSP : This is absolutely false information. During the ESOP, ALPA and IAM represented employees, as well as some non-union hourly employees, traded seats o
37 Post contains images StasisLAX : Perfectly stated summation of an extremely sad situation at UA
38 UALFAson : Chill out people! United is not closing its doors, a la MAXjet. The continued terrible weather in Chicago has led to days of cancellations for weather
39 Mm320cap : This is a meltdown, anyway you want to slice it. Last night, before the Denver weather, United had around 320 cxls, American had 11. They dealt with t
40 Brucek : I'm not in the airline business, but as an economist follow the fortunes of the airlines with a lot of interest (as well as being a private pilot mys
41 Jasp25 : Hi guys, The thread is kinda worrying me because I am flying on United on the 29th. What do you guy guys think about flight UA584 LAX-DEN and UA1144 D
42 WorldTraveler : Bruce, if you'll remember, UA languished in the longest and most expensive bankruptcy in airline history and still came out with finances that most an
43 Bobnwa : Count me as among those who believe they can survive.
44 WorldTraveler : I would argue that they are not near as well managed or motivated as they need to be in order to survive in the cut-throat US airline industry. In fa
45 Halls120 : of course, you have no personal bias here, being one of the Anet DL fanboys, right?
46 Bobnwa : Obviously you changed your mind about NWA having to be ashamed about their earnings!! UA has said many times they are pro merger but have never said
47 WorldTraveler : how do you propose they be bought if you don't think they'll be sold either totally or by piecemeal? You truly aren't trying to argue that UA isn't r
48 WorldTraveler : how do you propose they be bought if you don't think they'll be sold either totally or by piecemeal? You truly aren't trying to argue that UA isn't r
49 Post contains links and images UnitedTristar : OH for Ch****'s sake! did you look at the BTS numbers lately? http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2007/bts043_07/html/bts043_07.html System* Quarterly
50 WorldTraveler : OK... I wasn't going to give it a break but since you are addressing me personally, I'll bite. Let me repeat. UA is FINALLY delivering industry accept
51 Super80DFW : I was in DEN this morning flying on Southwest, anyway we went to eat breakfast in United's Concourse and I looked at the Flt. Info Monitors and United
52 Post contains images UnitedTristar : Where besides oil are their costs increasing? They are taking cash they have earned and reinvesting it into the company. They are upgrading the fleet
53 Halls120 : Well, I'll give you credit for not denying your bias. It's been a long time since I studied business economics, but I don't recall reading anywhere t
54 Post contains images United1 : Look folks, UA got hit HARD by weather this month combined with no one in there right mind wanting to work OT on Christmas we simply ran out of F/A an
55 WorldTraveler : Time spent in BK is a measure of how quickly the company can figure out how to survive. DL exited in half the time and was making more money halfway t
56 Lufthansa747 : So what? Those people need a job, so please do overtime. They better want to work OT. Heavy loads and cancellations... haha, CHAOS again. Better get
57 ATCtower : Too bad they are not jumping at the schools to get pilots in as AA, NW, F9, DL, etc. are. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have not heard that UA associ
58 Post contains links United1 : Well actually UAs revenue can keep up with its CASM.... UAs CASM (excluding fuel) is projected to rise 7.5% in the fourth quarter vs 4th Qtr 06. Reve
59 United1 : At one point I thought they had a loose association with Southern Illinois University but I don't think UA has any formal ties with any flight school
60 Post contains images UA_727 : What big trouble??? The only major issue right now is the same thorn we are all dealing with, and that is the unprecidented spike in oil/fuel prices.
61 Laxintl : After recalling all furloughed pilots, United hired about 100 pilots this year with an expected 150-200 additional in 2008 dependent on how the age-65
62 Halls120 : Citations, or is this just more of your unsubstantiated opinion?
63 UA_727 : **And remember that in that time-frame, as UA was struggling vigorously to do an about-face upon exit, *your* carriers plummeted into bankruptcy... P
64 UA_727 : How many investors do you think would have lined up to support NW and DL in BK if UA and US would have failed in their BK??? Take UA's and US's BK ou
65 Post contains images Halls120 : You've obviously mistaken me for someone else.....
66 Artsyman : This thread is silly. The reason is simple (and I am amazed that it has not been mentioned yet). ALL CARRIERS experience issues with this on the major
67 DualQual : Who let Tilton post?
68 Ytib : I flew out of Denver today and noticed a couple of things, besides the weather. While waiting for a friend to arrive from MSP, the flight at the next
69 Ken4556 : Funny, I flew Delta on Sunday morning and back home today (Christmas Day) and I could not find one cancellation on Delta's Atlanta flight screens. I
70 WorldTraveler : It's public information. Actually investors were crying for one airline to fail in order to remove capacity; it didn't happen and they're still cryin
71 Post contains images Hiflyer : Yup...a whole day has gone by and the DEN number ended up at about 65 mainline.. [Edited 2007-12-25 19:51:55][Edited 2007-12-25 19:54:42]
72 Halls120 : Then you should have been able to provide a citation quite easily. That you did not leaves us with the conclusion that you are just expressing your o
73 Post contains images United1 : That's like saying that Southwest wins the Triple Crown Award every few years. Well yes they do but they also invented the award How long a company i
74 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ....WT refuses to admit UA was in bk during one of the worst times in aviation history....UA management had to put tons of disparate operations into
75 TWAL1011 : United had a rough month.. Big deal?? They have had a great year. If they had tons of pilots sitting around all year to be staffed for some rough weat
76 JetBlueAUS : Haha, no one would ever say that about JetBlue. JetBlue had a great few years before they screwed up, not just ONE year... Just pointing out the usua
77 RyanAFAMSP : After posting earlier, this topic has popped back up in my life. I am at Christmas dinner and things have turned into chaos with multiple people fight
78 WorldTraveler : Or maybe you can pull the information yourself. If it matters so much to you, I'd expect you'd really want to know. I still haven't seen every US air
79 Post contains images Jacobin777 : simple...AA was in a better financial position than UA was at the time....and AA's "near-death turnaround" was in 2003....
80 BAW716 : A couple of points: a) I have no sour grapes at leaving UA. I made the decision to leave UA on my terms; a la the fact that I was not going to get a
81 Post contains images Halls120 : I could point out that since you are the one making the claims regarding UA's length in bankruptcy, it is incumbent on you to provide the facts to su
82 Bobnwa : As I said before , UA has never said it is for sale, so yes that is what I am saying. I am proposing they will not be bought, but will likely be the
83 Bicoastal : San Diego Airport website shows 7 cancelled flights out of SAN by UA today. That's almost a third of their departures. That will create havoc. If the
84 Halls120 : Only 5 at Dulles so far. Given United's Dulles operations, that's a drop in the bucket.
85 Ctermua : Boston is going to be a nightmare today. 5 of the first seven ORD departures are cancelled. Both LAX nonstops. One SFO. Two IAD. One Denver...so far.
86 Post contains images Hiflyer : What's the ol expression? oh yeah If ALPA get's a cold the airline get's the flu
87 Zone1 : CNBC just quoted that they have canceled 121 flights today so far.
88 BAW716 : Ah, perhaps you might want to check out some of the things that Glen Tilton has been saying in the press. While he never used the words "UA is for sa
89 Bobnwa : That is right, he has never said that UA is for sale, paraphrasing or not. He has been very vocal about finding a merger partner. If he was alluding
90 Halls120 : One thing that always intrigues me about UA threads is that someone (not necessarily BAW716) invariably starts the tired "Tilton is the devil" refrai
91 WorldTraveler : I, for one, am not demonizing Tilton. He came in to turn around a near-dead airline and asked for and has received alot of money in the process. The r
92 777fan : A meltdown for SAN, perhaps, but not for the rest of the route structure. FWIW, I was among those affected by the horrific weather at ORD on 12/23. M
93 Jacobin777 : ...ey? ..you mean throwing darts at a dart board and flying on every route hit? I'm not buying your argument...UA has managed BK quite well, is makin
94 Post contains links Mariner : Perhaps because he is - very sensibly - leaving all the options open? http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8T689EO0.htm What Mr. Tilton has
95 United1 : I seem to remember DL having a catering meltdown just before filing for BK. Weren't they serving Chick-fil-A in BusinessElite for a few days....
96 777fan : I would eat Chick-Fil-A in any class of service, on any day (except Sundays, of course!). It's better than half of the crap presently served in F or
97 United1 : So true... its one of the things that I miss from when I lived in Dunwoody!
98 WorldTraveler : I'm sorry but those cities always have the potential for weather problems.... you staff for it. But the fact that other carriers that serve the same
99 Bobnwa : Anyone who can read a newpaper would not think that. Exactly correct, if the money people want a merger they will get it and they will choose the buy
100 Post contains images Mariner : That could be said about a lot of things. mariner
101 Post contains images WesternA318 : What newspaper have you read? In the case of US/HP...HP bought out US Airways, and then tanked the HP name in favor of the more widely known US monik
102 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ...the point is all do not have extensive services tied together at the aforementioned airports which UA has.....especially given SFO/ORD are massive
103 Bicoastal : I tried to start another thread because this one strayed a bit off topic. It's now a pro/anti UA management rant and not a discussion about the cancel
104 Frontierflyer : I feel sorry for the employees working through this mess. I guess they should also have the same attitude like tilton "not my problem"How much more ar
105 WorldTraveler : you do realize that DFW has had far worse weather than DEN this year, don't you? AA hubs at DFW and ORD, yet again, they have managed to make it work
106 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ..bring up the delay stats.....SFO+DEN >> DFW.... ....DFW/MSP have nowhere near the problems ORD has...especially with flight congestion.. ..like I s
107 UA_727 : OOOH, YES - That's right - United has actually KEPT the overwhelming majority of its employees UNITED employees - a FAR CRY from what NW has done at
108 Bobnwa : Did you not read what I said. Everyone who can read a newspaper would know that HP bought US. Every newspaper I read said that, including the NY time
109 Post contains images UAL777UK : Wow, what are you some kind of clairvoyant as well...impressive. I might also add WT, that I flew in this morning on UA958 into LHR in F. Had a great
110 Bobnwa : Very impressive to have that ability. Do you consult with investment firms?
111 Okie73 : I seem to recall that United flies their narrowbody pilots up to 95 hours a month. That does not leave much room for error. They can only legally fly
112 LAXintl : 89 hour schedule cap per ALPA agreement. There was an LOA reached in February with ALPA that would have allowed each pilot to voluntarily increase hi
113 Post contains images Halls120 : Today at IAD, UA has only 4 cancellations - only 2 of them 320's. Time to retitle the thread?
114 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ..here's some... ..un-mounting United cancellations... ..safe landings for United cancellations ...United cancellations run out of fuel... ..
115 Tozairport : The 767,777,and 747 pilots are limited to 89 hours per month with an optional flex up to 91 hours. The LCO pilots (A320 and 737) can fly up to 95 hou
116 Okie73 : Ok, I didn't think about those other issues. Still seems to me like your pilots are working a lot compared to some other airlines. Doesn't seem like
117 Laxintl : Thanks for the clarifications. I've seen the LOA however have not used a surgical scalpel to go thru it especially now 9 months after the fact. I do
118 GALLEYSTEW : UAL cancelled many flights due to crew shortages.......due to weather and bad scheduling of crews earlier in the month. Pilots are choosing not to fly
119 EMB170 : So would it be fair to say that no one is looking to buy United right now (even though some major investment firms have asked other carriers to consid
120 Post contains images Hiflyer : No.....only a few self proclaimed clairvoyants and former employees in here...grin
121 F9Widebody : According to bts.gov, 76% of DEN's departures and arrivals were ontime, as compared to 71 and 73%, respectively, at DFW. 2.27% of DEN's flights were
122 Tozairport : No pilot at UA has to answer the phone on their day off. Even reserve pilots have rules about when they do/do not have to answer the phone. Line hold
123 Post contains links Bcoz : Don't think this has been posted yet.... From the Chicago Tribune today... http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel...522635.story?coll=chi_tab01_layout b
124 Laxintl : I dont have a link, however if you PM me I can forward something. Basically 50hours monthly Average is not to hard to come up with. Remember you'll l
125 Jacobin777 : ..thanks..how current is this data? Need SFO data also...
126 DocLightning : You know, it occurs to me. I'm doctor and medicine, particular hospital care, has taken a lot of lessons from the airline industry regarding safety an
127 Post contains images PGNCS : And if management would staff the airline the pilots would be a lot healthier. This is a staffing problem, not a labor problem. You are saying that h
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