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Why No US Airlines To Dubai?  
User currently online747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15180 times:

Dubai is a well developing area, in fact the worlds best hotel is in this area. So why US airlines has not tried to buy right to fly into Dubai? I see Dubai as the next hot spot like London and Tokyo was, and right now is a great opportunity for US airline to start route to Dubai.

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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15189 times:

Delta flies Atlanta-Dubai with either 767-300ER or 777-200ERs...


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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15170 times:

Delta flies from atlanta, no?

as neat as dubai is, and it really is, i think it has a long way to go to be in the realm of tokyo or london, at least in terms of a tourist destination for people from north america. I'm sure there is a good amount of high yield business traffic, though.

I would imagine there is still a lot of hesitation on the part of a lot of americans on vacationing to the middle east, no matter how justified or not. There is also the fact that american airlines may not want to take emirates on in their own backyard.


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15148 times:



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 1):
Delta flies Atlanta-Dubai with either 767-300ER or 777-200ERs

Delta only uses the 772ER on ATL-DXB. The 763ER does not have the range to fly this route.


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15076 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 3):
Delta only uses the 772ER on ATL-DXB. The 763ER does not have the range to fly this route.

Thanks! I havent paid any attention to DL since they got rid of their 733's and dismantled DFW.



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User currently offlineKoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15054 times:

No, Dubai is a place with virtually no redeeming features.

The airport has grown as a hub to allow Emirates to link Europe, Asia, Australia and Africa, and the country has various over-the-top hotels and tries to sell itself as a beach and shopping destination but has an oppressive climate.

Basically, it's just a hub for linking Europe and Asia. Everything else is a gimmick. Would you fly from the USA for a vacation in Macau, which has similar over-the-top resorts, but with gambling too?


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5647 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15018 times:



Quoting Koruman (Reply 5):
Would you fly from the USA for a vacation in Macau, which has similar over-the-top resorts, but with gambling too?

Maybe once, unless CO flew there, lol.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12407 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14984 times:
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Quoting Koruman (Reply 5):
No, Dubai is a place with virtually no redeeming features.

In your opinion?

Quoting Koruman (Reply 5):
various over-the-top hotels and tries to sell itself as a beach and shopping destination

Just like many other tourist locations.

Quoting Koruman (Reply 5):
but has an oppressive climate

IMHO, the climate during Autumn, Winter and Spring is great.

For every person who hates Dubai, there are many more who love the place. Having worked there for 9 months, I have to say I'm one of the latter.



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14824 times:



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 2):
as neat as dubai is, and it really is, i think it has a long way to go to be in the realm of tokyo or london, at least in terms of a tourist destination for people from north america

Agree . Emirates will turn the airport into one of the biggest and most succesfull hubs in the world, but that's about it. I've heard so many Americans say "I hear Dubai is great and beautiful", but when it comes to visiting, very few seem eager or willing to do it. 13 hr. flight just to see nice hotels and beaches??? Isn't that the reason why no European airlines fly to Hawaii?

Quoting Koruman (Reply 5):
The airport has grown as a hub to allow Emirates to link Europe, Asia, Australia and Africa, and the country has various over-the-top hotels and tries to sell itself as a beach and shopping destination but has an oppressive climate.

Yes I coulnd't agree more. They offered me an interview opportunity for a pilot position. I turned it down because I got hire on with a great company. Two, I don't think I can live in that type of weather. I like the four seasons, sun, rain, snow, windy days, etc. The weather in and around Dubai is oppressive in my opinion. Seems to me like a Phoenix type if weather.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24914 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14803 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 7):
Having worked there for 9 months, I have to say I'm one of the latter.

Lucky sod!



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User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8241 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14644 times:



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 2):
I would imagine there is still a lot of hesitation on the part of a lot of americans on vacationing to the middle east, no matter how justified or not.

Well, Israel is in the middle east and it gets a ton of American tourists.

Quoting Koruman (Reply 5):
Would you fly from the USA for a vacation in Macau, which has similar over-the-top resorts, but with gambling too?

I have and the difference is Macau has big casino hotels and nothing else while Dubai has pretty much everything else but casinos. Big, huge difference. You can even ski in Dubai  Smile The entire Gulf region has huge tourism potential and if they can package it with India/Sri Lanka/Maldives/Seychelles and other countries, it could be huge. Look at Hong Kong and Macau, on their own they have very little to offer tourism wise. Most tourists who stop in Macau and Hong Kong are on their way to/from some other Asian destination.


User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14587 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 10):
Look at Hong Kong and Macau, on their own they have very little to offer tourism wise. Most tourists who stop in Macau and Hong Kong are on their way to/from some other Asian destination.

I must disagree with the statement that Hong Kong has little to offer tourism wise. Hong Kong is such large tourist destination for Westerners because it is a chance to travel to China, but without all the red-tape of the People's Republic. Dubai is in the Middle East, but welcoming to tourists, especially Americans. Dubai has the potential to turn into a similar niche destination for Westerners but it will take time.

Many U.S. airlines will jump on those routes when the demand comes around. And charge a bundle for the pleasure. And I believe most of the tourists who travel to Hong Kong are not stopping by on the way to somewhere else. I traveled there last month and people I spoke with were not just skipping through.



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User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14524 times:

I hate to bring this up but I think that the average American thinks that Dubai is probably not a safe destination for them. The UAE is often reported in the American press as being tied to a "not-so-nice element" and also as being under threat from that same "not-so-nice element". Therefore, I don't believe that Dubai will ever be a big draw for average Americans.

User currently offlineUALMMFlyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14516 times:

I flew to Dubai in early December on Delta's BusinessElite. Last time I checked, Delta was still a US airlines.

Whethere Dubai is good for tourism is so subjective. I don't see why people have to question each other's opinion.

Will I go back to Dubai for vacation on my own dime? Not a chance.

Will I go back to Dubai for business, convention, and other corporate type functions? Yes, it has some of the great facilities and everything works, including the indoor ski resort.



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User currently offlineDrunkmuppet From Congo (Kinshasa), joined Nov 2007, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14488 times:

I actually was in Dubai over Thanksgiving for 4 days. We flew the ATL-DXB direct on DL. Was a cool city albeit very new. I wish I had more time and would have road tripped over to Oman to see Muscat.

There is excellent diving and you can always camp in the desert! I went with two of my best friends and had a blast. The only negative is the long flight, but I suppose once you are on the plane whats the difference really between 8 hours and 12 hours?

I will say that we met very few Americans, people assume because of the location it would be a dangerous place. I actually think it is much safer than most US cities.


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8241 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14441 times:

Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 11):
I must disagree with the statement that Hong Kong has little to offer tourism wise. Hong Kong is such large tourist destination for Westerners because it is a chance to travel to China, but without all the red-tape of the People's Republic.

The numbers contradict this statement. From the US business arrivals are still greater than tourist arrivals. And like I said, the great majority of tourists to HK are on a combined trip to other parts in Asia. Primarily mainland China. China gets about 5 times more foreign tourists than Hong Kong does. The largest number being Americans. That alone debunks the notion that Westerner tourists go to HK because they want to have a "sterile" Chinese experience.

Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 11):
Many U.S. airlines will jump on those routes when the demand comes around. And charge a bundle for the pleasure.

U.S. airlines won't jump on the routes for tourism traffic alone. I can list a handfull of destinations with far more American tourists than Dubai, that still don't have more than 1 US carrier. Australia and S.Africa right off the top of my head for example. You could probably put Singapore and Indonesia (no US carrier), on that list too.

[Edited 2007-12-26 06:49:09]

User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3006 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14314 times:

Its not just about hotels and shopping in Dubai, and if it was just that, very few scheduled carriers would be interested flying there as premium traffic would be at a minimum and yields very low.

However nearly all major European flag carriers operate to DXB and many of these operate several times daily with widebodied aircraft. Just because the majority of Emirates traffic is connecting through Dubai, most of the other airlines using the airport are people starting or finishing their journey in the city.

People seem to have forgotten, that Dubai is the main economic powerhouse for the whole Middle East. Many European and US companies have their regional HQ based here and nearly all major global banks have large offices based in the city.

Also with about 60% of the people living and working in Dubai being of foreign nationality, there is a lot of international demand and many much of this traffic is business travel flying in the Premium cabins... Also the tourists going to Dubai, are usually considered to be the more "affluent" traveller. Hence why SilverJet have found a demand in the market to operate an all business class 767 operating daily between LTN-DXB, and offers connections onto EWR.

Back to the original point... I think the lack of US carriers to DXB is purely because other Middle Eastern carriers (Emirates, Etihad and Qatar) have beaten them to it and the market being relatively small. While these carriers offer a far superior service to the US airlines. Also with the huge number of connections to the USA via Europe the market is pretty sown up (LHR, LGW, MAN, FRA, MUC, AMS, CDG, ZRH, GVA, CPH, VIE, MXP). Its even possible to connect through unlikely cities like GLA, BHX and BCN for example with Continental's code-share with Emirates.

With the larger European airports offering connections to nearly all major US cities, US travellers only have to make one connection and they can make the choice on what side of the Atlantic that connection is made. With only NYC, ATL and IAH being the only cities to be able to fly direct.


User currently offlineContinental180 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14015 times:



Quoting UALMMFlyer (Reply 13):
I hate to bring this up but I think that the average American thinks that Dubai is probably not a safe destination for them. The UAE is often reported in the American press as being tied to a "not-so-nice element" and also as being under threat from that same "not-so-nice element". Therefore, I don't believe that Dubai will ever be a big draw for average Americans.

i will have to agree with you. it will never become a big destination such as the caribbean is and in general.


User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13856 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 15):
You could probably put Singapore and Indonesia (no US carrier), on that list too.

I know United and Northwest fly into Singapore. I've flown NW into Changi Airport several times, and gated next to UA 747s.


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8241 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13305 times:



Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 18):
know United and Northwest fly into Singapore. I've flown NW into Changi Airport several times, and gated next to UA 747s.

That's true. But neither operate from the US while DXB gets a daily non-stop from ATL. So in a sense we can't arguably say that DXB and SIN are on similar grounds as far as service from the US carriers. I wonder how many of those passengers arriving in SIN on NW/US actually originated in the US. Probably not many.


User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13140 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 15):
You could probably put Singapore

As someone else just said, NW and UA

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 19):
That's true. But neither operate from the US while DXB gets a daily non-stop from ATL. So in a sense we can't arguably say that DXB and SIN are on similar grounds as far as service from the US carriers. I wonder how many of those passengers arriving in SIN on NW/US actually originated in the US. Probably not many.

Umm, well could it be that there is no non-stop service because the range dosen't allow it? Anyway I flew the SIN - HKG - SIN route once, and I think I saw quite a few Americans. In HKG very few people actually got off


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13086 times:

IMO United isn't too far away. With Halliburton's HQ now in Dubai, there is going to be quite a bit of contractor traffic between DC and Dubai. Whether or not the service will be nonstop is another question, but it'll be another US carrier.

Continental also expressed interest in serving Dubai in the early 2000s, though nothing materialized of the talks. They considered launching EWR-DXB.

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 19):
That's true. But neither operate from the US while DXB gets a daily non-stop from ATL. So in a sense we can't arguably say that DXB and SIN are on similar grounds as far as service from the US carriers. I wonder how many of those passengers arriving in SIN on NW/US actually originated in the US. Probably not many.

That has to do with aircraft range. No US carrier has an aircraft that can reach Singapore from the United States with any decent load. And the statement was that no US carrier served Singapore, whether or not the destination served nonstop or one stop is a moot point. United actually serves Singapore with two daily flights, one from Hong Kong and one from Tokyo.

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 10):
Well, Israel is in the middle east and it gets a ton of American tourists.

Very different market. Israel is a business, VFR and religious market that has connections to the United States that Dubai won't ever have.

Quoting Drunkmuppet (Reply 14):
I actually was in Dubai over Thanksgiving for 4 days. We flew the ATL-DXB direct on DL. Was a cool city albeit very new. I wish I had more time and would have road tripped over to Oman to see Muscat.

That sounds like a sweet trip.

Quoting UALMMFlyer (Reply 13):
Will I go back to Dubai for business, convention, and other corporate type functions? Yes, it has some of the great facilities and everything works, including the indoor ski resort.



Quoting UALMMFlyer (Reply 13):
Will I go back to Dubai for vacation on my own dime? Not a chance.

... exactly why Dubai is such an attractive destinations 2-5 years down the line. Tons of business traffic, much less tourist traffic. The tourist traffic that does exist will be higher yield, as Dubai attracts a wealthier crowd.


User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6787 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12890 times:



Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 11):
Hong Kong is such large tourist destination for Westerners because it is a chance to travel to China, but without all the red-tape of the People's Republic.

What do you mean red tape? You have to get a visa for HKG the same as you do for mainland China as a US citizen. If anything, if you're going from HKG to mainland, you need a multiple entry visa in fact, more "red tape".


User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 438 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 12505 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 22):
What do you mean red tape? You have to get a visa for HKG the same as you do for mainland China as a US citizen. If anything, if you're going from HKG to mainland, you need a multiple entry visa in fact, more "red tape".

In order to enter Hong Kong as a U.S. citizen, all you need is a valid passport. I went there last month and entered with no problem. To go to say, Beijing, you need a to apply for a visa, a much more laborious process (hence, more red tape). Yes, if you go into mainland China from Hong Kong, you must have a visa, but for those traveling only to H.K. from the U.S., a passport is all that's required.



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User currently offlineMax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1031 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 11773 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 22):
What do you mean red tape? You have to get a visa for HKG the same as you do for mainland China as a US citizen. If anything, if you're going from HKG to mainland, you need a multiple entry visa in fact, more "red tape".

Here's a nifty application on the Delta website which shows the travel document requirements. Enter your citizenship/residency, your destination, and the country which you're connecting...it'll show you what you need to travel.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reserv...isa_passport_information/index.jsp



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25 Abrelosojos : = Australia does not receive more than one airline because of a combination of bilaterals and the economics of ULR flights. Australia-Europe has a lo
26 Post contains links 102IAHexpress : Americans need an ETA before entering Australia, even for tourist purposes. http://www.eta.immi.gov.au/
27 MAH4546 : My money is on CO, UA, and AA joining DL at Dubai within four years.
28 HOOB747 : You said that much more elegantly than I attempted. Well said and thanks, I absolutely had that vibe when I was there (in H.K.). You're also right ab
29 Post contains links Phatfarmlines : I hate to agree with this, but this is true. See the last paragraph in the below link regarding the Dubai World Ports selling/buyout of US ports: htt
30 Post contains images AH332 : Hi, I completely agree with you. Dubai, in my opinion, is so overrated. Really, once you leave the business districts with all the fancy buildings, yo
31 ImperialEagle : Well, the scenery on the beach at TLV is a lot better, for one thing. Add a refreshing cocktail served out on the beach and it is a win-win! Also, th
32 Viscount724 : NW also operates daily NRT-SIN-NRT. Quite a few airlines have a website link to the IATA Timatic system for documentation requirements.
33 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : ..do you have any ideas what you are talking about? ...the absolute number doesn't have to be large, but as long as the rate of growth (for whatever
34 Mike89406 : I've been to Dubai quite a few times and while it is a tourist destination for some and not for others Dubai is constantly building at a fast pace, b
35 Post contains images Evan767 : When I told people I went to Dubai, people seemed slightly shocked I went to the middle east. It's much worse than Pheonix in July. So much worse. Ph
36 LAXdude1023 : Where would AA fly to DXB from? ORD or JFK? I cant see DFW or MIA having DXB service from AA. CO would probabaly be interested in flying from both IA
37 Post contains images ElmoTheHobo : Not that its dangerous, it's unknown. University students are going to study in the UAE (from the United States mind you) in huge numbers. I think th
38 Abrelosojos : " target=_blank>http://www.eta.immi.gov.au/ = Ya, but ETA is a mere formality. Its not a typical visa in the sense that you apply prior to embarkatio
39 Drunkmuppet : Couple of things I saw 1. Hardee's: Honestly, I was almost embarrased that there is a Hardee's in Dubai. Not to sound too opinionated but come on! Har
40 WesternA318 : OMG, I miss Hardees!
41 Eghansen : The only Americans who will go to Dubai are businessmen. They will fly Emirates. If you don't believe me, ask 10 Americans chosen and random "What is
42 WesternA318 : Speak for yourself, I have been to DXB and a lot more of the middle east and find it fascinating. LOL..
43 Aruba : I have wanted to go to Dubai for a long while .... but if might be better if there are no U.S. airlines, because they all have bad service. People wou
44 MAH4546 : My money is on Dallas. It isn't that far fetched an idea. O'Hare, Miami, and JFK will be well served by EK by the time AA goes to Dubai. Regardless o
45 Drunkmuppet : I have to beg to differ with you. Most people know of Dubai, Sail Hotel, Tiger Woods, Oil and the Palm Islands. Your post has such certaintly in your
46 ATCtower : Since we are speaking of American's and American based airlines, I would be happy to say NOW THAT IS A WINNING IDEA. Americans visiting Oman, Qatar,
47 LAXdude1023 : That was my way of thinking too. DFW will probably be the only hub not served by EK in say 5-7 years. Of course AA doesnt have a plane that can make
48 Drunkmuppet : While I agree with you about Yemen and Qatar, I beg to differ on Yemen. Why would 95 percent of intelligent Americans not go to the aforementioned co
49 Gigneil : Because they still beat their women and kill their homosexuals. Major reasons for Americans to not vacation there. NS
50 Par13del : Dubai has been on the Discovery Channel the last few month, especially the islands they are building off the coast and how it is being done. From watc
51 Gigneil : It is simply not practical for American families in general to vacation in much of the Middle East. Single male Americans can do so, but they don't co
52 WesternA318 : Somehow I doubt the percentage is that high...
53 Post contains images KLMD11L : London and Tokyo were and STILL are very spots! Despite all the developments, Dubai will never be as significant as The British and Japanese Capitals
54 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ....its nice to know some people aren't being imbued by the idiotic propaganda by the likes FOX and CNN..especially FOX... ..certainly at this point
55 Koruman : Even those people on this thread who have extolled the attractions of Dubai have singularly failed to explain away the following: 1) The vast majority
56 PITrules : 3 US carriers serve Australia (UAL, CAL, & HAL) with more rumoured to start. I believe the largest nationality to make up Emirates crews are British,
57 Post contains images ElmoTheHobo : Though Eghansen is referring to a majority of Americans. Travel to the Middle East is still the exception rather than the rule, much like most all tr
58 Mike89406 : Thats true If I had a choice of where to go in the Middle East it would be Dubai most likely outside of Israel. Lets not forget this although compari
59 Iwok : The thing is that Dubai is a great "middle point" for travel between Austral-Asia and Africa, Austral-Asia and Europe, Austral-Asia, South America. U
60 Eghansen : I work as a high-school teacher. We have done tests. Americans really do not know anything about geography. I have stood in front of a classroom of 3
61 WesternA318 : Ahh yes, I remember High School geography, I swore I was the only one that knew something, lol, like WTF the Adriatic Sea is, lol.
62 Koruman : I believe what you say, and I don't think that most Emiratis are particularly politically motivated. But you only need one fanatic to wreak havoc, so
63 Jacobin777 : ....Dubai is the one of the best hubs in the world for close to 3 billion people.... ....the average American isn't going to go to Dubai, but the ave
64 Eghansen : There are only 75 million valid passports in circulation for a country with a population of 300 million. That is 25%. Not only are most Americans unw
65 Mike89406 : I understand what you mean in fact Dubai wouldn't be on most americans to do list nowadays maybe when the US pulls out of Iraq mostly maybe it will p
66 ATCtower : That was a rather liberal guesstimate. I imagine a street survey of people who could actually find Yemen on a map would yield numbers much higher tha
67 Post contains links MAH4546 : Yup, so many warnings to avoid the U.A.E.: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html I agree that Dubai won't become a hotspot for Ame
68 ATCtower : It does occasionally benefit you to read the entire post before commenting but some just cant do it. The relation was to the countries listed in Drun
69 KLMD11L : I'm not underestimating it and I think it already surpassed Abu Dhabi as a major city, I know the majority of Dubai's residents are expats from all o
70 Mike89406 :
71 MAH4546 : Actually, I did read the entire post, thank you. I was still pointing out that there were no warnings for U.A.E. travel, given that is the main subje
72 DeltaL1011man : really? no try 3(UA,HA and CO) and talk of DL starting SYD and or MEL flights (and can start flying ATL-HNL-SYD tomorrow if they get the slots and A/
73 Melpax : Also remember that unlike the rest of us in the developed world, most Americans have only 2 weeks annual leave a year. Not much time to go off travel
74 Post contains images Scbriml : Certainly true. The chances of being a victim of crime in the UAE is very low. I've felt safer in UAE, Oman and Qatar than I have in my home town. If
75 Post contains images Gr8Circle : I guess he was referring to the Arab countries in that part of the world...."ME" is a term that generally describes the region....Isreal is the only
76 Post contains images Scbriml : Don't Canadians find anything above 5C "oppresive"? Seriously, I have no problems with Dubai weather for 9 months of the year. July, August & Septemb
77 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Well, my comments are based on the fact that I've lived in that part of the world, very close to Dubai, for some years....in my opinion, April - Oct
78 ElmoTheHobo : There is no issues with Jews in the UAE ,so long as they are not Israelis. I'm not sure how you can identified as a feminist. I'd venture to say that
79 AH332 : Hi, Well, that's a shame because all of you would be missing out on some beautiful stuff. You see, Americans have this twisted thought that if they go
80 Jacobin777 : ..Imad, its not a shame..he can keep is ignorant concepts of the world and not travel there...those of us who travel to such countries (and live in s
81 Post contains images AH332 : Very nicely put! Cheers, Imad
82 CupraIbiza : Couldnt have said it better myself. If fact i have been searching for a way to explain my feelings about Dubai all year. I was in Dubai eariler this
83 ATCtower : All are entitled to their own opinions but I have had numerous arab acquaintances and I can tell you the women are the most hospitable people you wil
84 Post contains images CV580Freak : What a total load of rubbish you Stars and Stripers talk - good gawd
85 LAXdude1023 : Its unfortunate that all of the Arab nations get lumped together. What America tends to know about the middle east is war and terrorism. No matter wh
86 Post contains images Scbriml : Yes, the local "Bombs R Us" stores are doing a roaring trade.
87 Post contains images ElmoTheHobo : Sarcasm sweethearts. Sarcasm. It is, but it has nothing to do with ignorance. It has everything to do with money. Most American simply can't afford i
88 WesternA318 : Amen to that Jacob, amen to that, so when your next big trip to somewhere exotic? LMAO, Didnt Halliburton just buy them out and then trade them to Ca
89 LAXdude1023 : My apologies. I think it has to do with distance as well. Its easy to lump cultures together from far away. But if you live in the US (for example) i
90 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ....that is part of the purpose of what Dubai is becoming....stopover, rest and relax (and do business)..... If one wants "cultural" sights, one can
91 EvilForce : Agreed. Hey I'm sure it's a great business hub. But why would I fly half way around the world to go to the beach when I could choose so many other op
92 WesternA318 : LOL, you are a rarity indeed!
93 Post contains images Scbriml : In that case apologies for "jumping" on you. However, in a thread where a lot of blatantly ignorant and bigoted remarks have been made, it might have
94 CupraIbiza : Spot on. You all look alike to us! (sarcasm) Excuse me but that is a load of garbage. USA has one of the highest GDPs in the world and at the same ti
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