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Breaking News : 22 Dead In Venezuela Air Crash  
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

following reports from Cnn.com

22 dead in Venezuela air crash



January 25, 2001
Web posted at: 7:43 p.m. EST (0043 GMT)

CARACAS, Venezuela -- An airplane crashed Thursday night while en route from Canaima, Venezuela, to the river port city of Ciudad Bolivar, Venezuela, CNN has learned.

Details were sketchy, but CNN has been told at least 22 people died in the crash. The number of people on board was not available.



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User currently offlineMaxPowers From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

omg! I hope at least there are a few survivers

User currently offlinePshifrin From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

They're saying it was a DC-3

User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3731 times:

It was Rutaca Airlines with 21 pax and 3 crew.

User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3676 times:

A very sad day indeed. The plane was filled with, amongst others, 5 Dutch tourists. So the plane crash caught some special attention here, especially because it reminds of the 1996 crash of the DC-3 in The Netherlands which killed 32, it generates discussions here in the media if the DC-3 is still fit to fly passengers because engine problems can have such results.


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3665 times:

Correct me if I am wrong but I belive this aircraft was a Basler Turbine conversion...Can anybody confirm this.

MEA....The DC-3 airframe is one of the strongest around. I would have not problems flying one of them. Besides if I am correct in saying that it was a Basler Conversion and alleged "problems" with the original R-1830's would be moot.

Besides for a double row radial engine the 1830 is pretty much bulletproof.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

I heard there were American,Dutch,Italian,Hungarian and an Austrian national onboard, may they rest in peace-Ameen


.....up there with the best!
User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

Rest in peace.

Please no more DC-3 for pax any more when you can get 727's, 737's or Twin Otters, Trilanders (if you need STOL) etc etc cheap or lease....


User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3604 times:

What the hell was that airline flying WW2 era aircraft like the DC-3? I can see if they were flying a DC-8 or DC-9 aircraft that was close or over 30 years of age, but a DC-3? Didn't those Americans that were on board think twice before boarding that aircraft?

User currently offlineUssherd From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3599 times:

I flew on a DC-3 belonging to Servivensa on that same route 5 years ago. The aircraft did a fly-by of the angel falls, giving fantastic views of the dramatic "lost world" landscape. It was a pretty incredible experience, made all the more so by the fact that I was flying on a classic airframe. It's very sad that what likely was a wonderful trip should have ended so tragically.


Cada loco con su tema...
User currently offlineUa747-400 From Venezuela, joined Feb 2000, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3573 times:

Greetings,

The sole purpose of having a DC-3 on that route is for sightseeing. Even though the aircraft is old the maintenance applied to each of its components is thourough, the news stated that the aircraft was in regulation standards. I live in Venezuela and never even heard of RUTACA, I was astonished that they flew a DC-3, but what im shure that the captain and first officer did everything they could to save the passengers. This is a tough blow for everyone. I really feel bad about this accident and hope the families of the victims can one day overcome the pain. My prayers go with the souls of this tragedy.

Kind regards.


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

The Rutaca DC-3 in question was on its way from Canaima (where Angel Falls is located) and had stopped in Ciudad Bolivar on its way to Porlamar, Margarita. It crashed on its way out of Ciudad Bolivar when an engine caught fire; it crashed into a residential area. 2 children on the ground were injured. The death toll is confirmed as 24, comprising 20 passengers and 4 crew members; there were no survivors. The crew and 2 passengers were Venezuelan while the other pax included Americans, Dutch, Italians, Hungarians and the Austrian.

DC-3s are commonly used in Venezuela for flights to Angel Falls - the planes fly right past the fall, the highest in the world, affording passengers a spectacular view and a once-in-a-lifetime experience. The airline, Rutaca, had a previously impeccable safety record and operates various equipment throughout Venezuela and to Port of Spain and Tobago. (The EMB-110 Bandeirante is the type used to Trinidad and Tobago.) They fly charters and also scheduled services. Their headquarters are at Ciudad Bolivar, in fact.

A very sad incident indeed. May those who died rest in peace and may God bless their bereaved friends and relatives.

 Sad
Trintocan.

ps I have been to Ciudad Bolivar and passed by the airport and saw DC-3s there - I have never flown to Canaima though. The scenic city is located on the banks of the Orinoco River and boasts the only bridge spanning the river, the Angostura Bridge, which is the longest bridge in South America.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineFP_v2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

I would never get on any of those old pieces of crap, they should have been scraped 20 years ago.

User currently offlineStarship From South Africa, joined Nov 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (13 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

From BBC News







Behind every "no" is a "yes"
User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (13 years 11 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3530 times:

Again, why couldn't they use a more modern STOL(Twin Otter or Trilander) for "sightseeing"?????

DC-3's times have passed. Period.


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (13 years 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

The latest news is that only 3 Americans were aboard that plane; the 3 others thought to be Americans were in fact Canadians. Hence, another nationality has become included among the casualties.

Personally, I do not see why the DC-3 should be blamed - after all just about any type of plane may be involved in an accident and, even more pertinently, any type can be kept in service for extended periods once stringent maintenance is carried out. The DC-3s have lasted nearly 70 years in service, with estimates on flying airframes varying between 400 and 1000; if the latter is true then there are nearly twice as many DC-3's still flying today as there were DC-10s and TriStars ever built! Not that I want to decry the trijets but that is a testimony to the durability and reliability of the DC-3s. If I ever get the opportunity to fly in one of these majestic old birds I would certainly do so.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

So, Trintocan, what caused this crash? Any ideas?

rgds
russ


User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (13 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

To answer your question, TWAneedsNOhelp, the investigation is focusing on the plane's engines. From eyewitness reports and the conversation with the tower, one of the plane's engines had caught fire after it had left Maturin. The pilots were trying to return to the airport when the plane went down.

So engine failure is being touted as the culprit here.

 Sad
Trintocan.



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