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Finnairs Future Short Haul Fleet? Modifications?  
User currently offlineSailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 14 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

Ok ok, i did some research so hopefully this hasnt been discussed before.
Airbus A319-100 11 105-126
Airbus A320-200 12 124-159 New cabin seats during spring 2007
Airbus A321-200 6 154-196 New cabin seats during spring 2007

Ok so according to wiki.... this is what AY has, both its own and leased. I was with the new cabin a321 earlier in may this year and it looked very good indeed:D.
However, my question here is when and what will replace this fleet of 29 a320s. If im correct the a319s are about 6 years old. AYs Embraer 170s and 190s are both too small on the required routes such as CDG, LHR, ARN, CPH, OSL, FRA, and so on...
So could i assume that the e170s and 190s will most likely get more orders in the future?
Definetley AY will not go for the 737... since Patria does parts for Airbus, so of course theyre gonna support home industries.

How bout the 757-200W? Will Finnair look at buying the 787-3 to replace it Big grin ??? Impossible but a fun thought. But thez really are aging fast... I think theyre about 10 years old and the youngest about 7 years if im not mistaken.

Ive alwazs been verz confused with Finnairs a340/330 orders. Is this correct: 5 X a340-313E, 15 X a359xwb, and 11 X a333????


Anyway i hate seeing the MDs go. Last memory was enroute HEL-BKK then SIN-HEL via BKK. *Sigh*
 Sad  Sad

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User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 14 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Quoting Sailas (Thread starter):


Quoting Sailas (Thread starter):
what will replace this fleet of 29 a320s

How about A320's ?

Quoting Sailas (Thread starter):
How bout the 757-200W?

How about the A321 ?

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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3929 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 14 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

I think its a tiny bit previous to wonder about AY replacing its A320s. They are not that old. Even if the 757's are 10 years, that is still very young. We must remember that before 9/11 the A300s, A310, 747-300 & -200, 737-200, DC-9 etc were all very common, even in Europe. AY itself only retired the DC-9 in about 2003, IIRC. I think we have begun to loose perspective on how long a/c can be kept in service.

Aircraft are not like cars and do not need to be replaced every 5 years. They are designed for a service life in excess of 20 years. AY has overhauled the cabins of its A32Xs so they will be staying for the foreseeable future. A new build A320 would gain almost nothing over an early build A320, and might even be more expensive to operate, as leasing costs would be more.

There are many airlines with large new fleets, FR and U2 spring to mind, but they have introduced these becasue of great prices on their mega orders. If 9/11 had not happened FR would be operating 737-3/400s and a fraction of the 737-800s they operate now, and U2 would be using 733 and 73G.

I dont understand why a lot of posters would like all airlines to fly <5yr old A320/737NG. Thats no fun!


User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2306 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Quoting Sailas (Thread starter):
However, my question here is when and what will replace this fleet of 29 a320s.

They don't need to replace those birds until 2020 or even later. They're quite new. By that time, Boeing and Airbus will have some new narrowbodies, and maybe even Embraer and China and Russia, in the 100-200 seat range.

Quoting CV580Freak (Reply 1):
How about the A321 ?

No. Too short range. Finnair's 757s have loooong legs, including across the Atlantic. The A321 won't make it.

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User currently offlineSailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 13 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

well i ujnderstand yoour point and i hate to be a picky person but wouldnt many people want to travel on newer aircraft? with PTVs and such??? I do prefer the E70 to those md87 which used to fly GVA-ZRH-HEL...
Id liek to flz the md11 once more but not as a common aircraft...
the a321 wouldnt work as a replacement aircraft for the 752w since Air Finland and others lease the 757 from finnair on charter flights such as bangkok and dubai and the a321 does not have that range. HEL-YUL might be possible dont know...

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