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First Export Sale For Beriev Be-200.  
User currently offlineSIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 483 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7514 times:

Here is the link.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...e-200-firefighting-amphibians.html
I always wonder why this aircraft wich seems to have a very good feed back from western operators (Greece, Spain) was not sold to them as Canadairs and other fire fighting aircrafts are old now.
Good new for Russian aviation.

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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1938 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7412 times:

Well, maybe orders will pick up now the first Western customer has bought it. It's a great and nowadays proven design to fight fires.

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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12887 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7298 times:
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This is one Russian design I'm surprised hasn't sold in larger numbers outside the normal Russian "sphere of influence". It seems like the perfect solution to the firefighting challenge.

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User currently offlineThreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2187 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7262 times:



Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 1):
Well, maybe orders will pick up now the first Western customer has bought it.



Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 1):
This is one Russian design I'm surprised hasn't sold in larger numbers outside the normal Russian "sphere of influence".

Politics and certification boards will ensure that this aircraft (nor the IL-76) will fly in a firefighting fleet in North America anytime soon, if ever. Watch the sales staff and lobbyists from Bombardier ramp up their efforts to ensure the likes of France, Italy, Slovenia etc remain loyal 415 customers.

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 1):
It's a great and nowadays proven design to fight fires.



Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 1):
It seems like the perfect solution to the firefighting challenge.

Only in the right areas, of which there are surprisingly few. This aircraft seems ideal for Greece, with its relatively low terrain and proximity to the sea everywhere. At first glance, a good purchase. But part from the coastal fringes of southern California and the western Mediterranean, most water scooping aircraft are limited by the availability (or lack thereof) of suitable water sources. Despite its technical merit and performance, the Be-200 will not be a wise investment for the firefighting agencies in western North America, Australia, South Africa or great swaths of France and Italy. If I held the purse-strings, I would be tempted to invest the same money and obtain greater capacity and flexibility with multiple CL-415s.



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User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7145 times:

What I find interesting is the commercial airline variant of this aircraft. If the numbers allowed it, this aircraft could be an interesting aircraft to run between Vancouver and Victoria (B.C., Canada) harbours... and from Miami to the islands off of Florida....


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7132 times:

Greece and Russia got long standing relations between each other, but I think it´ll be very good for Beriev since it open the door for sales within EU.
Could Bulgaria be a future customer?


User currently offlineVega9000 From Portugal, joined Aug 2006, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7070 times:

It was also deployed in Portugal, two years ago if I remember correctly, on a "loan/test" basis.

I don't quite recall why it wasn't ordered (yet), but I think it had some issues with water reloading. It seems that there were actually very few places with enough space for doing so, due to the lenght required, and the average dam lake was not enough...



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