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Air Tran-New Destinations?  
User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3180 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 7248 times:

Air Tran this summer had been expanding rapidly on the map, but now those expansions slowed. The only new cities that have been announced in the past couple months are PWM,SJU. Does anyone have any info?

My ideas:

BNA,MHT,BTV,PVD,ALB,SDF,SLT,HIA,ABE,AUS

Is there a possibilty of inter-west flights?


E135/E140/E145/E70/E75/E90/CR2/CR7/CR9/717/732/733/734/735/73G/738/739/752/753/762/772/319/320/321/333
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User currently offlineSFOQQAA From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 96 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7176 times:

I think BNA would be a good fit. However, I would love to see them start CVG service from a couple of their gateways... maybe ATL-CVG, BOS-CVG and add in some CVG-Florida service. Give DL a bit of competition and maybe lower the fares in this market.

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7149 times:

FL recently added another gate at STL and 2 more in MKE. I believe aircraft deliveries will start up again in Jan. I'd look for more flights to/from those cities.

Does anyone know if there are any near term gate solutions in ATL? Anything in the works?


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7071 times:

Don't forget FWA!

Last year, we were in the top 5 cities in terms of votes in AirTran's poll that had cities big and small. Of the top 5 cities (PHX, CHS, PWM, STL, and FWA), only FWA hasn't gotten FL service yet. And a lot of pax from Fort Wayne fly FL out of IND, so FWA just might still be on their radar screen. I'd say that a 2x daily FWA-ATL and a daily FWA-MCO on B717s would be good to start with (even though G4 flies a 2-3x weekly FWA-SFB).

Delta's response would probably be minimal, as they've cut back so much at FWA already that they've alienated a bunch of frequent fliers who would be glad to fly on AirTran.

Oh, and I think that BNA would do great, too. But I think that Delta would drive them out of CVG in a nanosecond, as DL would see it as an invasion of their Midwestern hub and respond appropriately with triple SkyMiles and such. (Unless, of course, DL buys NW and downgrades CVG to a focus city... then it's ripe for the picking.)

[Edited 2007-12-28 08:32:51]


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User currently offlineJIWNCO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7069 times:

What ever happened with CUN?

User currently offlineRyanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7022 times:

Does anyone know last year on AirTran's poll last year how Baton Rouge was voted. Was Baton Rouge a popular choice for Baton Rouge? I know Frontier had a period of slow her in BTR but traffic for them has increased rapidly lately.

User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6733 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7021 times:

FL's management has stated they will add some additional Caribbean routes as well as some more point-to-point routes in the Midwest. Given that, as well as the reduction in deliveries, I don't think we will see a lot of new domestic cities....maybe 1 or 2.

FWA might do ok, but it's a small market. And while DL might be cutting capacity right now, the moment FL adds FWA to their map, DL would likely flood the market. I have my doubts that DL and FL could coexist in this market.

BNA is tough. It's already well served and pretty close to ATL. BNA already has nonstops to many of the cities that FL would connect through ATL, so I don't think FL would pick much up.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7014 times:

How about Love Field?  duck 

User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6998 times:

Looks like PHX is working out well, as they are up to 4 dailys from ATL. I haven't heard about how well MKE-PHX is doing, but would suspect alot of midwest snowbirds use it.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6998 times:



Quoting SFOQQAA (Reply 1):
I think BNA would be a good fit

BNA is loosing jetBlue this week............



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User currently offlineFlydl2atl From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6961 times:

What about BDL? I believe it's the largest O+D market out of ATL that Airtran doesn't already serve.

User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6942 times:



Quoting Flydl2atl (Reply 10):
What about BDL? I believe it's the largest O+D market out of ATL that Airtran doesn't already serve.



Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
BNA,MHT,BTV,PVD,ALB,SDF,SLT,HIA,ABE,AUS

I don't think FL would serve that many destinations in New England (PVD, MHT, BDL, BTV in addition to WM). I think it would make sense for them to add 1, maybe 2 down the road. Those being PVD and BDL. I think there are other stations that would come online before those 2, namely CVG, which as has been mentioned, I think FL could do well if they time and price their flighs well.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1698 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6842 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Reply 7):
How about Love Field?

Maybe if they added an aircraft with less than 56 seats to their fleet. I wish they would!

Also, what about OKC or TUL?



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9272 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6767 times:



Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
HIA

Do you mean MDT? FL has looked into starting service here, and were about 3 days away from signing an agreement. Then, they balked and went into HPN instead...

MDT certainly has the gate space. It would be neat to see FL do MCO in addition to ATL service, or MDW perhaps. They could do something like 4X to ATL and 2X to MCO or MDW...



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6756 times:

How well served is PIT these days after the US pulldown? Perhaps FL should consider PIT-LAS or PHX for the winter months.

User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6743 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 2):
FL recently added another gate at STL and 2 more in MKE. I believe aircraft deliveries will start up again in Jan. I'd look for more flights to/from those cities.

I have a feeling that AirTran didn't add gate B-10 for just one flight a day to Sarasota. I was told that Baltimore and Philadelphia were on the wish list originally, but since Phildaelphia is now flown by WN, maybe Baltimore is the only east coast candidate.

Hopefully more Florida too!


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6712 times:

Quoting LambertMan (Reply 15):
I have a feeling that AirTran didn't add gate B-10 for just one flight a day to Sarasota.

Agreed.

I could see TPA, RSW, FLL, MSY, BOS, LAS?

[Edited 2007-12-28 11:44:54]

User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5727 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6710 times:

I'm still hoping for SLC service, I'd LOVE to see the 717's out here!


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User currently offlineAFCDGPTP From France, joined Dec 2007, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

What about flying to Europe with an all-business low cost config ?

User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9272 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6593 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 14):
How well served is PIT these days after the US pulldown? Perhaps FL should consider PIT-LAS or PHX for the winter months.

WN might be the most likely one to add LAS or PHX before anyone else does. Also, I believe that DL is making all ATL flights all-mainline effective in February or March, according to the PIT thread. I would like to see someone beef up PIT in the future tho. I wonder what the O&D numbers will look like after this year. They were at about 8.1 or 8.2 million or so for 2006, which is about 83% of the total traffic. I think that the airlines have added service that might offset the US losses coming in the next month or so, when the total number of flights goes down to 68 a day.

Plus... FL is adding daily service to FLL, RSW, and TPA in February. According to the FL website (again, likely inaccurate) FLL is 71% booked, RSW a little more than half, and TPA roughly 70%. Hopefully these new destinations will work well for PIT. It looks like FLL might be the most successful...



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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5727 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6588 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 19):
WN might be the most likely one to add LAS or PHX before anyone else does.

I dunno, I just dont see WN putting up a few cattle car 737's against all the Airbii/757's from PIT/PHL and CLT...



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6548 times:

With G4 announcing the suspension of FWA-LAS today, now I'm really wondering if FL will finally bite the bullet and launch FWA service.

In addition to my previous thoughts of 2-3x daily FWA-ATL and a daily FWA-MCO, a 3-4x weekly FWA-LAS would probably work out well to fill G4's void...



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9272 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6536 times:



Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 20):
I dunno, I just dont see WN putting up a few cattle car 737's against all the Airbii/757's from PIT/PHL and CLT...

I think the only things going to LAS and PHX from PIT on US are an A319 and an A320 to each. I don't think US flies 757s into PIT anymore. I think they have a couple of A321s but I think these go to CLT and MCO in the morning. Come February there are only going to be 22 mainline flights out of PIT. Very sad...

WN already has a sizeable station at PHL, and they don't even serve CLT... yet...  stirthepot 



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4718 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6528 times:



Quoting Flydl2atl (Reply 10):
What about BDL? I believe it's the largest O+D market out of ATL that Airtran doesn't already serve.

BDL has pretty solid O&D to ATL with high fares, the biggest problem/issue for Air Tran is that ANYWHERE they would want to go, theyd be going up against DL, and maybe WN.

ATL- DL
MCO - DL WN
TPA DL WN
FLL DL
PBI DL
RSW DL

Talk about an up hill battle against your least favorite competitor, plus BDL has always been a strong DL market.

PVD while they have less ATL O&D than BDL, they can at least go to places like PBI and RSW or add to TPA and FLL with no or less of a flight.



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9272 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

I wonder what the O&D is like on BDL to MKE. I know FL is expanding there...


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25 Post contains links and images 727LOVER : I actually did a thread about that: Could Airtran Make It At DAL? (by 727LOVER Jul 19 2003 in Civil Aviation) WELCOME BACK !
26 Indy : I wonder if FL will be doing anything else in IND? Their passenger numbers continue to climb here. November 2007 numbers are out. FL's numbers are up
27 Panther : I have been hearing a lot of Cedar Rapids in the crew room.
28 Tornado82 : Airtran already serves Cincy... via Dayton. Starting CVG would just cannibalize their DAY and to a lesser extent IND markets. G4 announcing suspensio
29 BatonOps : It would be great to see FL in MDT. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
30 FWAERJ : Load factors were never an issue for FWA-LAS... the route always had 90%+ load factors. It was a successful route, but Allegiant just had the wrong a
31 Tornado82 : Yields, yields, yields. While the 73G would have lower fuel/mx costs, it's allocated capital costs would be higher, nearly negating those differences
32 WesternA318 : Well, theyd either be paying the gas, or the mortgage + gas...with G4s business model, smaller segments are about all they could afford, with any fle
33 Iowaman : That's interesting, but seems unlikely to me considering MLI pulls most of the CID area. OMA/DSM would seem like better candidates IMO.
34 Tornado82 : I agree MLI and CID are one in the same for an LCC drawer type of carrier like that. DSM would be quite ripe without the canyon blue already depressi
35 Flynavy : You obviously missed my joke. Love Field - as in - FL flying birds there for Southwest-ification.
36 PVD757 : PVD really needs a new carrier and FL would be perfect!
37 WesternA318 : LOL, puke brown, errm...wait...canyon blue 717s, YICK!
38 Jetblueguy22 : True. With its cheap fares it would really be a big compeititor against Delta. They have daily flights to/from Florida and ATL and this would be a gr
39 Dw9115 : I really believe four cities DSM OMA OKC TUL with limited services to ATL or maybe BWI or BOS would workout well for Airtran. Also I think Airtran sho
40 Post contains images Uncgso : Any chance of GSO reopening? The airport is offering incentives for new airlines/flights. ATL should do well now that DL is down to only 2 mainline a
41 Cubsrule : BNA has quietly put a jetway up at gate A1, which is interesting, as B13 (the old B6 gate) is obviously opening up, and is more desirable for a new e
42 Post contains images JetBlueAUS : Hope that is definitely true!
43 Rbgso : Much as I would like to see GSO reopen to keep DL honest, I doubt it. When FL was here, as I recall they served it with ZW flights, not mainline FL.
44 Flynavy : You do realize that ZW no longer operates AirTran JetConnect CRJ flights, right?
45 Uncgso : Just a few years ago GSO had 9 or 10 mainline DL and 3 or 4 FL DC9's and 717's (before JetConnect) per day. I think 717's would be fine. Just wish th
46 Post contains images Steeler83 : The only time FL had DC9s was when they were Valujet, at least I think they got rid of their DC9s anyyway...
47 CitrusCritter : DC9s remained in the FL fleet until 2002 or 2003. They were regularly seen in the smaller markets.
48 Post contains images Buddys747 : Agree 100%. MDT has the market and it would no doubt do well. I personally would welcome a 717/737 any day over those overbooked crammed CRJ's that D
49 Post contains images Steeler83 : Oh, I guess that's why I didn't realize they still had DC9s, the fact that I am not in a smaller market, nor was I ever in a smaller market, served b
50 Joeljack : I disagree with your take on OMA vs DSM. Southwest has depressed yields on short flights out of OMA to STL and MDW. The longer flights on WN are actu
51 Post contains images Rampero : Next FL caribbean destination are (BQN) Aguadilla, Puerto Rico.
52 Tornado82 : Hence the increases in pax numbers at places like ABE lately. ABE is probably just as ripe as MDT for FL service, I doubt that FL is scared of G4's p
53 Catdaddy63 : I just priced some TUL-ATL-TUL tickets on DL for my boss, $997 per person for travel in late February. On CR2s no less! Come on FL give us some relief
54 Steeler83 : I bet that was only a coach seat. Talking about ouch... I think that amount would get you a Business class seat on FL, maybe even less than that. ABE
55 Buddys747 : I'm not far from you, I Live in E-town. Mdt is only ten minutes away. Since the airfare war is pretty much over in PHL, the fares are very competitiv
56 Steeler83 : Wow. You're just up the highway from me. I am right off 283 right at the Millersville exit in the Wheatland Hills apartment complex. You're about 15
57 USAirALB : I cant see it with DL In 2004 CRJS left the fleet because FL performed a test and realized they could operate economically with the 717. This route o
58 USAirALB :
59 Wedgetail737 : Not a new route, but it would be nice to see FL fly to SEA year-round.
60 AirTran737 : That route never started. Landing fees and costs associated with FPO went through the roof.
61 BAKJet : That would be great
62 Buddys747 : I agree. Maybe we will have to start an MDT dream thread!
63 BatonOps : Then we can find out how many loyal MDT fans are really out there!! Count me in!!
64 Quickmover : MKE-MSY rumored on another thread.
65 Post contains images Steeler83 : Put me down for two -- counting my girlfriend!
66 WesternA318 : I flew on one LGA-ATL back in 2000.... An MD-88 would be overkill for starters, I'd say start off with an E170/175... Put me down for two as well!
67 Steeler83 : Ah, ok. An E70 or 75 would certainly be considerably better than those dreadful CR2s! I was on an E70. For a regional jet they're quite roomey! Hey,
68 Buddys747 : One has started!
69 BR715-A1-30 : Ok, I'm at a loss of words for that one, LOL!! However, rumor has been speculated about FL opening up SAT sometime.. Slightly off topic, but does any
70 CIDflyer : Oh wow I would LOVE to see them here, but I won't get my hopes up because of our proximity to MLI. But then again they are getting planes and will ne
71 Georgiabill : I think MHT would be a good addition to Airtran route system. 2 daily MHT-ATL(early morning mid afternoon departures from MHT) and a daily ns to eithe
72 USAirALB : agreed what about ALB?
73 Georgiabill : ALB same as MHT could work as well!
74 XJRamper : I know we are already served by FL, but come February, FL is adding a DAB-LGA flight. XJR
75 Post contains links and images Acey559 : I wish FL would start a BWI-MLI flight. The only thing seriously lacking from the MLI destination map is a flight out East. If you look at our map it'
76 XJRamper : Just by looking at that map...I am really surprised that MLI doesn't have an NYC area flight by either MQ or OH. XJR
77 Acey559 : I wish we did. Something out East, ANYTHING, and I'd be happy, but it's one area that's been neglected by us for a while. I think that may be because
78 LHPDX : Would be nice to finally see a ATL-PDX flight with AirTrans....................
79 Steeler83 : It would be nice to see FL add a few destinations or frequencies from PIT, or even to expand to MDT like they were about to do last year or whenever
80 Post contains images JetBlueAUS : I'm pretty sure that SEA is a stronger market with more O&D.
81 Steeler83 : I suppose, but I also suppose they'd also be competing with DL on that route. I think DL flies PDX-ATL, don't they?
82 AustinAirport : Please that would help make 2008 a great year for me. But IDK so yeah LOL MHM Couldnt agree any more bud
83 Post contains images Aruba : I wish they would start a BDL route. They have no flights to Connecticut.
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