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UK International Suspends Scheduled Flights!  
User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

Does anyone know any details on why UKIA has stopped their scheduled flights on dec 25 ?
(EMA to Sharjah and Islamabad).

Their website is not really precise on that ...

I hope they are not a new "victim" of the - ageing - B 767´s ... ( remember MAXJET ??? )


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User currently offlineFeroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 794 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3197 times:

from the www:

Quote:

TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF FLIGHTS


UK International Airlines (UKIA) regrets to announce TEMPORARY SUSPENSION of its scheduled service to Sharjah and Islamabad due to OPERATIONAL REASONS. The company is keen to put in place a number of improvements which will provide our valued passengers with enhanced customer service, and enjoyable flying experience. UKIA is unable to put in place the envisaged improvements in an efficient manner whilst continuing to undertake flights as per its current schedule.

UKIA's Management is convinced that its valued customers will significantly benefit from the improvements it intends to introduce with the re launch of its enhanced service early in the New Year.

UKIA apologizes to its valued customers for the inconvenience caused at this busy time, and thanks them for their patience and understanding.

UKIA Management


and from Wikipedia:

Quote:
Suspension of services
UKIA have indefinitely suspended all operations since December 23, 2007. The company cites ongoing concerns about the fleet and problems with security at Islamabad International Airport.



User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Well, I was thinking this had to do with the political unrest in Pakistan (at present); but Benazir Bhutto was murdered days after UKIA suspends ops...

Maybe some crew members have more information...


User currently offlineKoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

Bear in mind that "Islamabad" airport is just the new name for Rawalpindi Airport, which is where this assassination occurred a couple of days later. (Actually, the new version is that this is where this person banged her head on a sunroof and died).

With elections supposedly two weeks away, would any well-run airline be flying there at this time if it had a choice?


User currently offlineMHG From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

@FEROZE
That´s what i found on their website, too !

But this is still rather "unprecise".

@All
So, i´m waiting for someone having more details ...

"due to operational reasons" could be a revoked AOC or change of a/c type - or staff on strike - or ... anybody´s guess.

They promise to "improve the product" seems to lead more likely to a change of a/c type rather than other options - except the lack of pax - in my opinion.

To me looks like there´s some similarity with MAXJET´s problem regarding the B 767 "hardware" (older 767 getting more prone to corrosion or other tech. issues plus increasing leasing rates...)

Juergen



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User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2990 times:



Quoting MHG (Reply 4):
To me looks like there´s some similarity with MAXJET´s problem regarding the B 767 "hardware" (older 767 getting more prone to corrosion or other tech. issues plus increasing leasing rates...)

Technical issues - such as? MaxJet's idiotic business plan did them in. It had nothing to do with operating the 767.

I'm surprised that anyone's actually surprised this carrier is faltering. I'm surprised this is even newsworthy. They operate ONE aircraft. It - like many others before it - will not doubt fade into history soon and the rest of the industry won't even blink.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

There is nothing on the PIA website.

I doubt if it is linked to the assassination.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

http://www.piac.com.pk/FlightSchedule.aspx

PIA are still flying.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

Given that their only aircraft is G-GECU ex N603UA, I expect that the issue is mx related.

This aircraft is MSN 21684 LN 4 built in 1981, and probably the oldest B767 still flying.

Also given that UA was in Cpt11, I suspect that there has been a lack of TLC. Clearly that does not affect safety, but non safety issues seem arelikely to increase.

I think that they are just another airline with a single tired aircraft.


User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2894 times:



Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 6):
There is nothing on the PIA website.

No kidding. The thread is about UK International, not PIA.  eyebrow 


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

If the problem was linked to the situation in Pakistan, why are PIA not affected.

The problem seems to be limited to UKIA.


User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2813 times:



Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 8):
Given that their only aircraft is G-GECU ex N603UA, I expect that the issue is mx related.

This aircraft is MSN 21684 LN 4 built in 1981, and probably the oldest B767 still flying.

Yeap, oldest still flying, BUT if you have a closer look on their time-table, you will notice, that the a/c is doing just "nothing"... There is enough time between the flights to take care of her problems.


User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

I don't believe this is about the political situation in Pakistan... Other carriers including British Airways and Emirates are flying without issue...

The press release is so vague, I would personally interept it that the airline has more or less ceased trading and do not expect to fly with them any time in the near or distant future!

Its probably just another start-up airline, failed in its early days.

Even if the airline has only temporarily suspended operations, this sort of news does them no favours and en-stills little confidence in them!


User currently offlineAndyEastMids From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 1026 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

The a/c - G-CECU - has had some mx issues and there have been delays (inlcuding one of 24 hours), but nothing that's stopped the flying. As someone else said, there's so much downtime in the schedule it really shouldn't be an issue at present. The reason why they've stopped flying is out there - in fact someone did hit on it above. Whether UKIA do resume ops remains to be seen. Shame if they go down for good really, as the numbers were beginning to look quite good.

User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3060 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Crews leaving en masse....cabin crew leaving despite being tied to a bond....wages not being paid this month...The aircraft recently "temporarily" confiscated back by the lessor...flights rarely on time, and if "on time" a whole day late...passengers stranded in ISB over Christmas following the suspension of flights (not forgetting the spot of unrest currently going on)...no less than 8 management personnel have walked...dear oh dear oh dear.

Mr Khaliq will have to sell plenty of sofas and chairs in the sales before this albatross ever gets airborne again.

Shamu



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2096 times:



Quoting AndyEastMids (Reply 13):
Shame if they go down for good really, as the numbers were beginning to look quite good.

No, it's not a shame.


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