ArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1 Posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 23262 times:
According to a competing website (PPr.....) a 737-300 TAROM charter flight hit a service car which was left on the runway while taking off for Sharm El Sheik.
Supposedly no injuries, also I don't know how severe the collision really was and if the plane aborted take-off or just did actually take-off.
visibility was limited (fog).
Anybody (maybe Hungarian members???) have more info?
That don't look good, seeing the photo it looks like there is still a lot of fog.
Does this usually leads to a write-off as there seems to be substantial damage and the plane is probably not that young anymore?
Anyway glad everybody got out OK, could have been a lot worse.
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11714 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 23074 times:
It looks like the left MLG was sheared off and the left wing is sitting on the #1 engine. This is a significant amount of damage, but airplanes with this type of damage have been repaire. It could be a write off, depending on how old (hours and cycles) the airplane actually is.
TaromA380 From Romania, joined Sep 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 22232 times:
It's always interesting to have a video clip from inside the plane, after incidents.
I am surprised it wasn't worse, because the speed was quiet high, the clip shows the plane accelerating for plenty of seconds with a rather high ground speed.
The passenger says the plane went outside the runway after the shock.
There were two people around the car, working on runway lights system, they escaped not injured. You can imagine their scare when in the middle of working on the runway, thinking the zone is secure (unaware of the ATC ignorance about them), they saw a plane coming at take off speed toward them ...
According to AGI (Agenzia Giornalistica Italiana/Italian press Agency) the car was left by some engineers that was repairing some "lights". The incident happened in a "pre-takeoff" moment(TAXI?)... Thats why there are no casualities...
Nervous? Yes. First Times? No, I've been nervous lots of times. -Airplane!
TaromA380 From Romania, joined Sep 2005, 332 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21333 times:
From what I read in romanian, it was not a "forgotten car" but a maintenance car, with two engineers working on the runway light system. The lack of coordination with the ATC is obvious, someone in the airport staff screwed it big time.
Teme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21222 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 20): From what I read in romanian, it was not a "forgotten car" but a maintenance car, with two engineers working on the runway light system. The lack of coordination with the ATC is obvious, someone in the airport staff screwed it big time.
Sounds like there is a lot work to do in Romania. The weather was bad I saw few clips on some Romanian news site. And they need get their ATC standards to EU standards!
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21112 times:
Quoting TaromA380 (Reply 15): I am surprised it wasn't worse, because the speed was quiet high, the clip shows the plane accelerating for plenty of seconds with a rather high ground speed.
Myself also. Looking at the video, it looks like the impact occurred just as the aircraft was rotating the nose, so you're talking about a Vr speed of about 120 kts. or so at least. At that kind of speed, the results usually are not good at all, and it suggests to me that the actual vehicle/aircraft contact was more of a glancing blow off the outboard side of the engine cowling or the underside of the wing and/or extended flaps. The media's animation in the video shows the the aircraft off on the right side of the runway, but the still photo (in another link) shows the aircraft down on its left wing, so that suggests it was off on the left side of the runway. I don't necessarily think the left main gear was sheared off (since a 120 kt. impact would have undoubtedly resulted in more damage and a likely fire) but it's possible the left gear is still attached and dug into the mud. Any way one looks at it, they were all lucky, since it could have been much much worse.
Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 18): And to reiterate what everyone else is saying - HOW does one leave a car on the runway?
They didn't "leave" it as in parking it unattended. It was reportedly a service vehicle whose occupants were working on some runway lights, and the workers were thus in proximity to their vehicle. Just speculation, but they either didn't request/obtain permission to be on the runway, or else an air traffic controller forgot they were there when someone cleared the aircraft for takeoff. Maybe one controller not talking to another? Nobody knows at this point, but that will come out in the ensuing investigation.