TCFC424 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 517 posts, RR: 2 Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
I know I am opening a HUGE can of not worms...but SNAKES, but I am really curious as to what the EMPLOYED IN AVIATION community thinks.
This question has come to my mind several times as of late, most recently tonight when a guy I work with explained that he fought really hard to get the union into my airline (a heavily unionized airline).
Don't get me wrong, I know why unions are around, and I could be known as a pro-union guy or an against-union guy. I like to make my own decisions. There is a time and place for unions.
Lately, however, the people who have been getting the love from their employers are NOT union. Everybody I have talked to at SkyWest seems ecstatic to work there. Everyone I have talked to at Continental seems ecstatic to work there. The people I work with (the older ones) are extremely pissed at the company they work for, and if it weren't for unions, they probably would not have a job.
What is everyone's take? I would like to hear from those who are IN THE AVIATION BUSINESS who are union and those who are non-union. This is not a free-for-all pro-union/anti-union thread. This is not about what union is going to bring down XYZ company. This is for those of us in the business.
I would also like to end by saying that in the US, WN is a heavily (if not all?) unionized company that seems to have a good rapport with their management.
Xtoler From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 953 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1608 times:
I can't even speak for how all companies and unions interact with each other, but you'd think in this day and age we shouldn't have to have unions. It's sort of damned if you do, damned if you don't. In my case, I was an F/A with a regional and a union member. Our union did not fit our job at all, and I'm not quite sure how we wound up with them, but they were definately a little too friendly with our company big wigs than looking out for us. I voted to get rid of it last time the contract came up. But as our turn-over rate was so high, there was no one there to make a good vote. That same union is now representing the pilots and F/A's of our new airline (I won't mention it, but it rhymes with Jogets). Sad to say, but I'd just as soon deal with middle management and feel more protected. Then again my immediate bosses were in the trenches too and put up with the same BS I did.
Unions do work to a point, but they are outdated.
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