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BD Summer 08 - INV, ALC & NCE Axed  
User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4757 times:

BD have just launched their summer 2008 timetable:

http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/abou...entre/press-releases/20080103.aspx

The news is basically:
- LHR to DME to go 2x daily
- LHR to MAN to go 8x daily
- LHR to MME change of schedule
- LHR to LBA to go 4x daily (currently 5x daily)
- LHR to INV axed
- LHR to ALC axed (usually summer only)
- LHR to NCE axed (usually summer only)


Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
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User currently offlineFreequentFlier From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4747 times:

Interesting...doesn't BA also serve DME? Surprised there is so much traffic between the two city pairs.

User currently offlineCabinboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2000, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4666 times:

DME is served 3x daily by BA and SU fly to Shrementyvo 2 Airport from LHR 1x daily, sometimes 2x i believe so in total thats 7x daily flights from LHR to the Moscow area..quite allot really. Ive just come back from DME actually on BA and the flights both out and inbound were very quiet, in eco anyway!

User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4601 times:

They have had to axe some routes as BA start to get the old BMED slots so they need to drop some routes to be able to fit the BMED routes in.

User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

BA often sends 767's on the DME route so there is a big market between the 2 cities.

User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4062 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Quite a blow for INV. First they lost the BA service to LGW and now also the BD flights to LHR (plus Ryanair to LPL). So the floks in the Highlands are left with the likes of Easyjet and Flybe when it comes to flights to London and onwards from there....

User currently offlineBCA2005 From India, joined Sep 2005, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4488 times:



Quoting Cabinboy (Reply 2):
DME is served 3x daily by BA and SU fly to Shrementyvo 2 Airport from LHR 1x daily, sometimes 2x i believe so in total thats 7x daily flights from LHR to the Moscow area..quite allot really. Ive just come back from DME actually on BA and the flights both out and inbound were very quiet, in eco anyway!

Do Transaero still operate daily DME-LHR-DME?


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

Shame about the LBA frequencies going down, I hope this isn't the beginning of the ned for the LHR services, which, to be blunt, are vital for travel outside the EU from LBA.

BA787


User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4439 times:

Well at least they still have a good reliable service from easyJet in to LGW and LTN. It's not the same as LHR, but at least it is reliable, and quite affordable. Used it a few times, and never had any problems with the punctuality and service. With BD having a buy-on-board service, I can't imagine there is much difference onboard.

User currently offlineSeansasLCY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

I think Moscow is a good market to get on, I flew SU SVO-LHR and the entire premium cabin was filled with oil workers coming home. BD do at least seem now to be focused on growing medium haul services rather than just various odd routes.

User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1452 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4328 times:



Quoting BCA2005 (Reply 6):
Do Transaero still operate daily DME-LHR-DME?

Yes - usually seems to be a B734 but can be a B762 or B763 or a B735 has been known.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Is the bmi-Transaero codeshare on DME remaining? Just that the bmi press release doesnt mention this and their combined three daily flights, matching BA, would surely be worth mentioning


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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4206 times:

Tragic to hear of the cancellation of BDs LHR-INV, I remember DA having this as their sole route from LHR and building traffic up to a huge extent offering a high level of on board service and it was a profitable route for them.

User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3981 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 12):
Tragic to hear of the cancellation of BDs LHR-INV

How long have they been operating for? Presumambly BA operated LHR to INV once?

I wonder if U2 will adjust their schedules at all - I expect they will see a slight traffic increase on their daily LTN and LGW rotations.



Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

Also a new 2-3 weekly BHX-BGY

HBDAN



Next flight: hopefully soon...
User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3879 times:



Quoting HBDAN (Reply 14):
Also a new 2-3 weekly BHX-BGY

That will be bmi baby won't it?



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

No doubt one of the 'older' babies yes. those 733s are hardly babies more like pensioners.

User currently offlineFlyTUITravel From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3773 times:



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 16):
No doubt one of the 'older' babies yes. those 733s are hardly babies more like pensioners.

Plenty of older planes flying in the world.


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3754 times:

Im glad to see LBA has survived. My guess is AMS and BRU will be next to go.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 16):
No doubt one of the 'older' babies yes. those 733s are hardly babies more like pensioners.

Well at least the antique 735s are gone. Some of them were absolutely minging inside and out. They were badly and sadly in need of a cabin refurb, with their mismatching seats, cabin wall panels and bulkheads. The ex U2 birds are much, much nicer. I think they have some ex CO/Buzz ones too?

btw, where did the 735s go?

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3702 times:



Quoting Sam1987 (Thread starter):
- LHR to NCE axed (usually summer only)

Not too surprising, but a tragic illustration of how BD have completely lost the plot. BA manages to fill 4 or 5 daily flights LHR-NCE (757/A320/A319 in winter, 767/757 in summer), plus one from LGW, and U2 have god knows how many dailies from LGW, LTN and STN, and yet BD couldn't support a single daily A320 on the route. That's inexplicable. Time for AF to start the route in their own right again (and not just a Cityjet 146 to LCY).


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3698 times:

I agree, BD Euro service is a mess, frequencies, on board service level inconsistencies, cancellations etc.

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7816 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

I flew from BHX to AMS on 14 August G-BVZI and AMS to BHX on 21 August G-BVZG, they seemed OK to me.

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3599 times:



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 19):
Time for AF to start the route in their own right again (and not just a Cityjet 146 to LCY).

I doubt it.

1 - LHR slots
2 - Cant see them going to Gatwick since they've now pulled all AF branded services from there
3 - NCE isnt a focus for them, at least not in the same way as Lyon or Marseilles



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User currently offlineSam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3429 times:



Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 19):
yet BD couldn't support a single daily A320 on the route



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 20):
BD Euro service is a mess, frequencies, on board service level inconsistencies, cancellations etc.

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Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3397 times:

Shame the INV-LHR link has gone as it gave the highlands a direct link into LHR for connections. Although at least flybe have kept the LGW route going.

I'm surprised we haven't heard much in the way of expansion by regional as I beleive they still have a couple of ERJ's on order.



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25 Gilesdavies : BMI almost branded themselves as the savour to the Highlands, when they picked up the LHR-INV service that BA dropped, I think the route was operated
26 Humberside : As far as connections go, the route was once daily, which does limit the number of long haul connections. If flight times dont match up then overnigh
27 Gkirk : Have to admit, I'm pleasntly surprised MME-LHR hasn't been axed.
28 Concorde001 : There are more flights than that between London and Moscow: Aeroflot LHR-SVO = 17 flights a week Operated by A321//767 British Airways LHR-DME = 19 f
29 BMED : I was surprised that a once daily flight to INV was axed but they still maintain routes such as this one, although at the same time I have no idea as
30 Boysteve : Just for interest, out of the 2 Moscow airports (SVO, DME) what are the pros and cons of each one for business/leisure travellers/distance to city ce
31 AF022 : What are BD's widebody plans? I think they fly LHR-JED, LHR-RUH and MAN-IAD with widebodies, and that's all. Are there growth plans out there?
32 NonRev : LHR-JED/RUH/DMM & MAN-ANU/ORD/LAS/BGI currently. Moving Forward... Exciting Times! (ex-BMED) Slots have to be returned/given to BA so some services h
33 Foxy : Also now has the added competition of Grand Central Trains which will be offering direct services to London from just down the road from the airport
34 PurpleBox : They could of course do it the other way and fly an ERJ on a 'W' routing from MAN or BHX - but I guess that with BE now flying these routes from this
35 Sam1987 : I've realised that northern Scotland isn't doing great this year - not only does INV lose its BD LHR connection, ABZ will also lose its BA LGW connec
36 Nighthawk : INV losing the LHR link is a bit of a blow, but thats about it. ABZ-LGW is no major loss - the IAH flights are moving to LHR, so ABZ still has plenty
37 BMED : Maybe someone like flybe will pick up this route or even the possibility that Eastern might?
38 Humberside : Rumours, on pprune admitadely, indicate Flybe. Either them or Easyjet would be best suited IMO
39 Sam1987 : U2 already serve ABZ from LTN, and ABZ is the only Scottish destination on their network not yet served by them from LGW. So it would make a sensible
40 Humberside : Just got some from Germanwings. They will use them for either ABZ or NQY (according to a press article in the South West) They can move GB flights to
41 Sam1987 : Ah very interesting... or maybe somewhere closer to LGW like LBA?
42 Ankaraflyjet : BD 2008 summer timetable: LHR from/to ESB (Ankara, Turkey) is increased from 6 weekly to daily.
43 StarGoldLHR : I think dropping the INV was political. Why are they adding an extra MAN flight ? MAN is a dying nearly dead market except for international feed. Ass
44 BestWestern : But is it profitable?
45 Post contains links Humberside : Not according to the newspaper article - http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/display...ernalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch The extra MAN flight directly repl
46 Addd : It does not look that way - bmi advertises its own two LHR flights without ever mentioning Transaero: BD895 depart Heathrow 2210, arrive Moscow Domod
47 AF022 : Despite the competition, is DME is good performer for BD? Which narrowbody routes are the stars for BD? DME? Anything else? And does BD carry much JED
48 Sam1987 : Probably not! Interesting... why didn't they publicise that?
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