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Boeing Delivers 441 Airplanes In 2007  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5141 times:

Just out on the newswires http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080103/aqth096.html?.v=26

737 - 330
747 - 16
767 - 12
777 - 83

[Edited 2008-01-03 11:07:07]


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5122 times:
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So deliveries rose 100 between 2005 and 2006 and now another 50 between 2006 and 2007.  champagne   dollarsign 

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5108 times:

What's Airbus's projection for their 2007 deliveries?


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5121 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
What's Airbus's projection for their 2007 deliveries?

They had 410 as of the end of November to Boeing's 407.

[Edited 2008-01-03 11:11:57]

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

In the end it looks like both Boeing and Airbus will be extremely close both in terms of 2007 orders and 2007 deliveries. In essence they've acheived parity amongst the 100 seater and larger aircraft producers.

With deliveries this close I wonder if that EY A346 that was totaled during the engine run up tests now looms as a critical loss? I think Airbus releases its numbers on Jan. 16th.

[Edited 2008-01-03 11:18:54]


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5108 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 4):
In the end it looks like both Boeing and Airbus will be extremely close both in terms of 2007 orders and 2007 deliveries. In essence they've acheived parity amongst the 100 seater and larger aircraft producers.

And did so setting new records for each in orders and deliveries.  boggled 


User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5095 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
737 - 330
747 - 16
767 - 12
777 - 83

that is about 1.2 airplanes per day any idea how Airbus did?



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12563 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5003 times:

Don't know about Airbus, but that's an incredible record for the 737 - 28 aircraft a month, which is actually more than one per business day. The 777 delivery rate of c.7 per month is certainly very respectable too!

Incidentally, in one month - think it was November - dear old Ryanair took delivery of 7 737-800s; I wonder if this is a record for one type to one airline, or has someone (WN?) beaten it. I know TAAG took delivery of 2 777s and 4 or 5 73Gs in one day, but that's still two types.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17123 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4991 times:



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
know TAAG took delivery of 2 777s and 4 or 5 73Gs in one day,

Wow, in one day. Didnt know that they delivered so many a/c in one day.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4976 times:
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Quoting Kaitak (Reply 7):
Incidentally, in one month - think it was November - dear old Ryanair took delivery of 7 737-800s

Heck, AI or EK could do that with 777s the way they leave them sitting on the flight line at PAE for months on end. Big grin


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12792 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4937 times:
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Congratulations to Boeing for a very strong year.

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 4):
I think Airbus releases its numbers on Jan. 16th.

It's normally a Thursday, which would make it the 17th. However, the press often seem to have "a very good idea" the day before, so we indeed may hear unofficially on 16th. I would expect Airbus to be a very similar number.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4915 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
What's Airbus's projection for their 2007 deliveries?

They projected 450-460.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17123 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4900 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
What's Airbus's projection for their 2007 deliveries?

They projected 450-460.

If they have right, they will then beat Boeing.



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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4812 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 12):
Quoting Stitch (Reply 11):
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 2):
What's Airbus's projection for their 2007 deliveries?

They projected 450-460.

If they have right, they will then beat Boeing.

Pretty much everyone, Boeing included, should expect Airbus to have more deliveries. Airbus has a higher production rate than Boeing and neither manufacturer had a delivery hang-up this year.

Tom.


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4811 times:
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But even so, five to ten planes isn't much. I believe Airbus used to have significantly higher annual delivery rates then Boeing.

User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4776 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Just out on the newswires http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080103/aqth096.html?.v=26

737 - 330
747 - 16
767 - 12
777 - 83

[Edited 2008-01-03 11:07:07]

When will B announce their total 2007 orders?



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4763 times:
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Quoting LH506 (Reply 15):
When will B announce their total 2007 orders?

Sometime today. Wall Street closes in about 40min, so I would expect before then.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4717 times:

Actually I'm expecting that they would release soon after market close perhaps at 4:15 or 4:30 ET.


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4690 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 17):
Actually I'm expecting that they would release soon after market close perhaps at 4:15 or 4:30 ET.

Aye. The stock hasn't moved much more then fifty cents all day. The market knows it will be ~1400, so they've already factored it in.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4616 times:

Boeing is saying that they will end 2007 with around 1400 orders and that the exact numbers will be released soon. It's 3:50 and nothing yet.


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4594 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 19):
Boeing is saying that they will end 2007 with around 1400 orders and that the exact numbers will be released soon. It's 3:50 and nothing yet.

So 1398 is likely the final tally and what was announced being signed on Monday is all there was.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5796 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4579 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 20):
So 1398 is likely the final tally and what was announced being signed on Monday is all there was.

Actually I think it'll be closer to 1395 but let's see about any new UFOs.



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User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4305 times:



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 4):
In the end it looks like both Boeing and Airbus will be extremely close both in terms of 2007 orders and 2007 deliveries. In essence they've acheived parity amongst the 100 seater and larger aircraft producers.

Maybe in the number of aircraft, but not in the value, which is much more important. Boeing is delivering more of the more xpensive widebodies than Airbus. So the favor tips to Boeing in terms of value.

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 13):
Pretty much everyone, Boeing included, should expect Airbus to have more deliveries. Airbus has a higher production rate than Boeing and neither manufacturer had a delivery hang-up this year.

The number isn't as important as the value. What pays the bills?



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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

It's remarkable that deliveries are only about 30% of orders. That imbalance cannot long be sustained. Breaking out the Q4 production numbers (which total 112) indicates that Boeing have not significantly increased production this year. One year of deliveries at the Q4 rate would have been 448 rather than 441.

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31240 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4228 times:
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Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 22):
Maybe in the number of aircraft, but not in the value, which is much more important. Boeing is delivering more of the more xpensive widebodies than Airbus. So the favor tips to Boeing in terms of value.

Airbus still had a very strong year in widebodies, especially the A330. Both orderbooks are much more balanced overall than years past, when Airbus was weighted towards narrowbodies and Boeing towards widebodies.

[Edited 2008-01-03 16:11:08]

25 HOOB747 : Both Airbus and Boeing have benefited from this upswing cycle in aircraft orders. This is reflected in the delivery schedules for both aircraft makers
26 Stitch : They are a mix of 767-300Fs and 767-300ERs. One might be the second KC-767 tanker for the JASDF since I saw another one on the flight-line last month
27 HOOB747 : You the man with the knowledge, thanks. Wonder why the 767-400 didn't do better? Seemed like a sure thing back in 2000.
28 Post contains links Chiad : It's official. 1413 orders. Boeing 2007 Orders: 1413 (by RedFlyer Jan 3 2008 in Civil Aviation) 1413 orders vs 441 deliveries. 3.2 orders for each del
29 Scouseflyer : I beleive that it will be a combination of: - Increased production, don't know about Boeing but Airbus is looking at 480 A320 a year, 120 A330/340, 4
30 Zvezda : Boeing will be increasing 787 production ... by a lot ... from 0 to 14 per month. 767 will probably remain steady at 1 per month. 777 production just
31 Stitch : Too little too late compared to the A330-200.
32 Glideslope : Let's not forget the falling dollar. Airbus' revenue is substantially lower due to it. They may deliver 10 more AC in 07, but Boeing has the cash at
33 Mnik101 : This really means nothing but i find it ironic that AI took both the first and last deliveries for 07.
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