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Not Using The Full Portion Of A Ticket...  
User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2999 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

This queestion is more hypothetical than anything, but would be interested to know if it is possible...

I have just had my usual dose of Spam Mail from US Airways  Wink and they are offering fares from LHR-PHL-LGA return for $398, however the fare just flying LHR-PHL in the same email is $602! So I will use them as an example, but sure it is the same with many other airlines...

Is it possible to just fly the portion of the route LHR-PHL-LHR?

As all luggage has to be collected at the connecting city on an international flight arriving into the USA and cleared through customs, before putting back on the belt for the next flight. So you could simply not put on the connecting flights belt and make your way out of the airport at PHL.

On the return leg, would the Check-In staff at PHL allow you to check-in there for the PHL-LHR flight? If for example you made up some story, like that there was a change to your itinerary and was closer to PHL and was not worth flying the LGA-PHL leg...

Do some airlines have different policies than others, and is it very much at the check-in staffs discretion? Or could you your return portion be cancelled altogether?

I was just curious to know, because it is almost like the people only flying LHR-PHL are being ripped off. But I have seen similar examples with Delta where it is cheaper to fly LGW-ATL-DFW than just the LGW-ATL portion, and I think BA are similar if you get a connecting flight through LHR from the USA onto Europe.

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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24643 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

If you didn't use the PHL-LGA sector of your outbound journey the rest of your itinerary would be cancelled. Almost all airlines have policies in place now that prohibit the practice you are describing. If you were travelling one way only and had no checked baggage you could simply not use the PHL-LGA sector (if the one way fare to LGA was lower than to PHL), although that also technically violates airline rules. But on a round trip it can't be done since the rest of your itinerary will normally be cancelled as soon as you no-show a flight.

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

That is called using hidden cites and the airlines don't like it.


http://www.faqs.org/faqs/travel/air/handbook/part1/section-23.html


User currently offlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 689 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

No, you cannot do this. In your example, if you were to not show up for the PHL-LGA sector, your remaining itinerary would immediately be cancelled.

You could probably get away with this on a one-way ticket, but not if you expect to use the return portion of a round-trip.

It's often the case internationally that flights with a connection tag-on (e.g. DFW-ATL-LGW) are cheaper than just the nonstop segment (ATL-LGW).

I started to write an explanation of why this is, but I'm not sure I understand, or believe, it myself!



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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2061 times:



Quoting UALFAson (Reply 3):
You could probably get away with this on a one-way ticket, but not if you expect to use the return portion of a round-trip.

I think the airline would also have the right (check the contract of carriage), to upgrade and retroactively charge you for a full fare ticket if you do this, even on a one-way ticket. Is this ever really done? I don't know, and don't want to find out.



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Why not fly the full itenerary and then rent a cheap car down, take a bus, or the train? Philly isn't that far from NY.

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3802 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2041 times:



Quoting UALFAson (Reply 3):
I started to write an explanation of why this is, but I'm not sure I understand, or believe, it myself!

...just one more reason (among many) the airline industry is practically begging to be re-regulated.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3275 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2039 times:



Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 5):

In this specific instance, that would probably be the smart thing to do. Either that or take the train. However, as he said, this is hypothetical, and that wouldn't always be practical. For example, what about a LGW-DFW-PHX ticket that is cheaper than LGW-DFW?

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

if you can buy it as one way ok but other wsie they will cancel the rest of your trip


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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24643 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1981 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 6):
Quoting UALFAson (Reply 3):
I started to write an explanation of why this is, but I'm not sure I understand, or believe, it myself!

...just one more reason (among many) the airline industry is practically begging to be re-regulated.

Why? A nonstop LHR-PHL and a connecting service LHR-PHL-LGA are two different products. Why should US not be permitted to compete in the LHR-NYC market where the huge amount of capacity generally means lower fares especially in Y class?

LHR-PHL nonstop service can command a higher price than a connecting routing to NYC that takes several hours longer than carriers with nonstop service. There's no reason why they should be priced the same. If they raised the fare to LGA to the PHL level they'd be uncompetitive with carriers operating nonstop to NYC, and if they reduced the fare to PHL to match the LGA fare they're throwing money away when customers are willing to pay the higher fare to benefit from convenient nonstop service and less risk of delays and baggage going astray etc.


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