LAXintl From United States, joined May 2000, 12042 posts, RR: 22 Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1395 times:
Seems like 6A finally on path to cross border growth again.
Quote: Aviacsa Planning New LAX, JFK Services
01/04/2008
Mexico's Aviacsa is planning to launch new flights to New York and Los Angeles next month.
The airline would offer four weekly flights between Monterrey and New York Kennedy and four weekly flights between Guadalajara and Los Angeles, using Boeing 737 aircraft in both markets. Mexico's civil aviation department awarded the carrier designations for the routes in late November.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2001, 16659 posts, RR: 59 Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1375 times:
I flew 6A MEX-MTY at the end of Nov. Was pretty nice aboard one of their 732s.
I flew MX LAX-GDL in early Dec. Would have been equally happy to fly 6A - and their fares might have been cheaper.
JRDC930 From United States, joined Jan 2007, 846 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1133 times:
Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 4): In any case, these new routes will only compensate 6A pulling out from MTY-LAX and IAH (both MTY and MEX) starting 13th January.
So they pulled out of LAX completely? I thought up untill now the only LAX flight they had was to MTY?, anyways it will be good to have them back at LAX, especially to GDL. It will be nice to have an alternative to AM or MX (i never fly a U.S. carrier internationally), to GDL.
U.S. Legacy carriers,STILL leaders in lowering industry standards...
Zetineitor737 From Mexico, joined Jul 2007, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1063 times:
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 8): How much longer will Aviacsa fly 732s? Any word of them purchasing some 73Gs?
Aviacsa has already pick 6 ex Delta 737-200 so you could imagine how much time must be flying that kind of classics, and they just only have 3 737-300.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4945 posts, RR: 48 Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
AM could not make JFK-MTY work, and I have never really understood why. Do you guys think that this route will work for 6A? I am assuming 6A will arrive to T4... is that right?
With respect to LAX-GDL is a city pair that can be flown by three carriers of each country under the bilateral. Is that correct?
I wonder what the future has in store for 6A... they will continue to face stiff competition from the low cost carriers... in fact, ALMA is set to launch GDL-LAS in February and, eventually, GDL-SAT in June. See http://mx.invertia.com/noticias/noti...dNoticia=200801041631_TRM_60207830 (sorry, Spanish only).
Juventus From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 947 times:
Quoting Zetineitor737 (Reply 9): Aviacsa has already pick 6 ex Delta 737-200 so you could imagine how much time must be flying that kind of classics,
Why in the world would an airline add 737-200s to their fleet??? I want them to succed and do well, but I just don't understand that move. Are we going to be talking about them like we do about Aerocalifornia with the old, outdated fleet?
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1535 posts, RR: 27 Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 863 times:
as far as I know Aviacsa is a reliable airline that offers a great service on each of their flights despite the fact that they have an outdated fleet. They have a strong and unified family of workers who seem to be very loyal to the airline and that has made them very strong these last few years.
It surprises me that they are ending the IAH route as I thought they'd be expanding their US network... I certainly hope they come back to MIA soon
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6A recently added 06 B737-200s ex. DL and very recent production models, even newer than some B737-300s out there, just like their ex. ZK purchase. There's nothing wrong with the B737-200, it only makes more noise and burn much more fuel, has too some distance restrictions but THAT's it.
These additions will replace 03 old B737-200s and also its 4th B737-300s is already here and rumor is that early March a few more B737-300s will join to replace more B737-200s.
6A is to reach 30 frames and to what some might think, 6A is not struggling, just making few changes here and there but is not going anywhere else.
g77
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EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 4945 posts, RR: 48 Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 692 times:
Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 13): 6A is not struggling, just making few changes here and there but is not going anywhere else.
That's good news for 6A's employees, and makes things much more interesting in the market. On a speculative subject, don't you think that a combination of Aviacsa and Viva Aerobus could be a very compelling proposition?
LACA773 From United States, joined Nov 2004, 1957 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 668 times:
Quoting Zetineitor737 (Reply 9):
Aviacsa has already pick 6 ex Delta 737-200 so you could imagine how much time must be flying that kind of classics, and they just only have 3 737-300.
Quoting Juventus (Reply 11): Why in the world would an airline add 737-200s to their fleet??? I want them to succed and do well, but I just don't understand that move. Are we going to be talking about them like we do about Aerocalifornia with the old, outdated fleet?
Thanks for the information Zetineitor. I just can't imagine them flying those old 73S classics much longer with the price of fuel. It must be costing them a fortune.
Completely agree with you Juventus! If they can't afford new 73Gs, maybe a more viable option for them could be the E190/195s? Just a thought.
Juventus From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 661 times:
Quoting LACA773 (Reply 15): Thanks for the information Zetineitor. I just can't imagine them flying those old 73S classics much longer with the price of fuel. It must be costing them a fortune.
Completely agree with you Juventus! If they can't afford new 73Gs, maybe a more viable option for them could be the E190/195s? Just a thought.
It wouldn't even have to be new airplanes like 737NG or E190s. Second hand 737-300/400/500s would work just as well for the next 6-7 years. The biggest problem I see is not the 200s being old and fuel consuming, but Aviacsa getting an airplane that they will have to replace in 3-4 years. That's my beef...
LACA773 maybe I'm not the right person to talk about Aviacsa's inflight service, its been 6 years since I flew them, but I remember good service. No complains at all, we got chicken fajitas and free beers. flight attendant smiled and were polite.
N1120A From United States, joined Dec 2003, 23399 posts, RR: 87 Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 657 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 10): With respect to LAX-GDL is a city pair that can be flown by three carriers of each country under the bilateral. Is that correct?
I actually thought that it wasn't, essentially as a protective measure because of the massive traffic on the city pair. If 6A is indeed able to fly the route, it should be instantly profitable
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MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 25665 posts, RR: 75 Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 626 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 17): I actually thought that it wasn't, essentially as a protective measure because of the massive traffic on the city pair. If 6A is indeed able to fly the route, it should be instantly profitable
Effective 01JAN08, both MTY and GDL became 3-airline cities.
Ghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 4626 posts, RR: 56 Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 549 times:
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 14): That's good news for 6A's employees, and makes things much more interesting in the market. On a speculative subject, don't you think that a combination of Aviacsa and Viva Aerobus could be a very compelling proposition?
That would be a killer Eddie!! 6A is still the 3rd largest mexican carrier with over 3.2-5M pax this year, if you add that Viva will end up with nearly over 1.2M that would make 4.5M pax and will still keep them on a 3rd but very strong position, consider Viva is doing this magical numbers with only 5 B737-300s!!! On a side note, IJ and Y4 are near the 1.5M passengers so still 2 more years to go for IJ and Y4 and probably one for Viva to reach Aviacsa. In so many industries market share doesn't matters and just works as a reference, but in aviation, market share, passengers and load factors means a lot!!!!
g77
Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
I flew Aviacsa MEX-TGZ-MEX last September on a 732 both ways. There was no IFE and just a sandwich and some candy for food. Of course, this was a short flight.
Zetineitor737 From Mexico, joined Jul 2007, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 432 times:
I´m not really sure what´s going on with Aviacsa but something I´m sure is that they close 5 flights from TIJ, and that station is very important for all the airlines in Mexico. They just leave 2 daily flights from Mexico city.
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