767-300ER From United States of America, joined May 1999, 130 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
Before Pan Am went bankrupt what kind of planes and routes was Pan Am flying to Brazil? Was it only Rio or did Pan Am service Sao Paulo too? I would like to know the routes and gateways pan am used to Brazil.
RIOJANEIRO From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1865 times:
N202PA, you are correct. Man, I cannot say how much I miss seeing those two nice PA 747's parked at Rio awaiting their nightly departures to MIA nad JFK. I had flown those 747's on those flights so many times, well times change...actually, if you go to Rio and you get a chance to see the arrivals/departures board(yes...one of those cool ones that flip, not the digital ones), you can still see Pan Am is still on there...don't know why they haven't taken it down.
N202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1839 times:
I've gotta agree--it's really sad that PA no longer reaches to Brazil...such a beautiful country, one that has a special place in PA and American aviation history. Pan Am pioneered the operation of flights to and through Brazil, after purchasing the NYRBA line (New York, Rio and Buenos Aires) in the early '30s.
One of my own special memories is flying on a PA 747 in Clipper Class from New York to Rio--beautiful flight and extraordinary service. The way it worked back then in the late 80s is that the flight would depart JFK in the mid-evening, fly all night, and get in around the early morning.
The fact that the Pan Am name is still on the flip board down there says something powerful about the Pan Am name as a marketing tool in many parts of hte world. Back in '96, when I last visited Trinidad, a faded PA billboard still stood on a hillside as we drived up through the central part of the island. It's rather sad that those who own and run PA III are unable to use the PA name as anything more than a domestic name, no better than Southwest, AirTran, Vanguard, etc. If only they could get the slots they need in international destinations, they'd be able to exploit the incredible brand recognition that still exists with the Pan Am name and Clipper logo after all this time. Perhaps they should start charter service with the 722's.
Maybe the new Pan Am will come back to Brazil some day...but I doubt it.