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User currently offlineJack02116 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 145 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9115 times:

Flew BA Club Europe from Amsterdam to LHR on 4th Jan on a very new Airbus 321 and the plane was fitted-out with what were clearly old seats apart from row one.

The leather seats was worn, seats were sagging and seat pockets were ripped. I've never experienced a new plane with 'second hand' fixtures before so wondering if his is WIllie Walsh's latest cost cutting initiative.

Wondered what they were doing with the old clubwold seats currently being replaced. I guess WIllie is storing them in his garage ready to be put in the A380s when they show up!  Big grin

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User currently offlineARGinLON From Vatican City, joined Jun 2005, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 9026 times:

How do you know it was a new plane? Probably it was recently painted and therefore it gave you the wrong idea. BA has not made any recent changes (as far as I know) in the shorthaul product so I don't know what were you expecting.

User currently offlineShamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8983 times:

Do you have the reg of the aircraft, what made you think it was new?

The first row may have had new seats because it's in the process of upgrading.


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4022 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8950 times:

Actually I did not know that but it sounds feasible. BA has in the last year removed a lot of convertor seats from the Airbus fleet and replaced them with the new economy seats, so why not fit them to new deliveries.

Quoting Jack02116 (Thread starter):
Wondered what they were doing with the old clubwold seats currently being replaced.

Well some are being refurbished for the Lauren B757s.


User currently offlineTheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8935 times:

BA's A321's are relativly new, oldest is no more than 4 years old I believe, so wouldn't be due a new paint job yet.

User currently offlineJACK02116 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8841 times:



Quoting ARGinLON (Reply 1):
How do you know it was a new plane? Probably it was recently painted and therefore it gave you the wrong idea. BA has not made any recent changes (as far as I know) in the shorthaul product so I don't know what were you expecting.

According to http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/British%20Airways-active-a321.htm G-EUXM was delivered on 23/11/07 and G-EUXL on 21/09/07.

I know there has been no change to the seat design in Club Europe. By 'old' I meant that the seats were worn! If the airline was using seats removed from other planes I would have thought they would have re-upholstered them especially if they were showing their age as was the case in this instance.


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2514 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8738 times:



Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 5):
G-EUXL

Talking about this particular one. I flew it from LHR to VIE on Dec 4. I noticed that there is a new AirShow verion (the map) which is better. Does this version run on all the fleet or only the new added 321s. The AirShow displays better details of London. It shows a BA A320 flying over the different cities on the way to Vienna. It even shows the plane landing in Vienna.

I have also noticed that the lights are better now. They look like desctop spots. I really enjoyed the new A321.



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User currently offlineLHR777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8304 times:



Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 5):
According to http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/British%20Airways-active-a321.htm G-EUXM was delivered on 23/11/07 and G-EUXL on 21/09/07.

I know there has been no change to the seat design in Club Europe. By 'old' I meant that the seats were worn! If the airline was using seats removed from other planes I would have thought they would have re-upholstered them especially if they were showing their age as was the case in this instance.

So were you actually on -UXM or -UXL?


User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8174 times:



Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 5):
According to http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/British%20Airways-active-a321.htm G-EUXM was delivered on 23/11/07 and G-EUXL on 21/09/07.

Well if you were on G-EUXL and the seats have been replaced it must have been relatively recent as I was on it a few weeks ago and the seats were all brand new. Haven't been on EUXM yet but recently I've been on EUXG,H,I and J as well as EUXL and none of those had old worn seats. But I haven't been on a 321 since before Christmas now so things may have changed.

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 6):
Talking about this particular one. I flew it from LHR to VIE on Dec 4. I noticed that there is a new AirShow verion (the map) which is better. Does this version run on all the fleet or only the new added 321s. The AirShow displays better details of London. It shows a BA A320 flying over the different cities on the way to Vienna. It even shows the plane landing in Vienna.

I have also noticed that the lights are better now. They look like desctop spots. I really enjoyed the new A321.

I noticed this on EUXL. The overhead panel lights are dimming LED's, very nice. The new Airshow only appears to run on these new 321's AFAIK, as I've been on some 319's and 320's since, and both had the old version... the one where Stansted shows up as Stansted in Kent, which has about 30 residents, rather than Stansted Airport.. Always makes me laugh, but then I'm a bit sad...



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User currently offlineEHRD From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 6390 times:

Do you remember the flightnumber ? On 4th Jan the AMS-LHR flights were operated by G-EUXD, G-EUXI, G-EUXJ and G-EUXL.

User currently offlineScott0305 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5539 times:



Quoting LHRjc (Reply 8):
I noticed this on EUXL. The overhead panel lights are dimming LED's, very nice. The new Airshow only appears to run on these new 321's AFAIK, as I've been on some 319's and 320's since, and both had the old version... the one where Stansted shows up as Stansted in Kent, which has about 30 residents, rather than Stansted Airport.. Always makes me laugh, but then I'm a bit sad...

Ha - noticed that myself a couple of times too. Real helpful for any visitors who might use that as an initial cue on how to transfer from one airport to the other. I thought it was a mistake - didn't know there was a Stansted in Kent.


User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5336 times:



Quoting Scott0305 (Reply 10):
didn't know there was a Stansted in Kent.

Lol I don't think many people do, there's not a great deal there... The Police shot someone there over Christmas there, and that's about it really... Certainly no BAA shopping mall airport there, thats for sure  Smile



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User currently offlineJACK02116 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2784 times:



Quoting EHRD (Reply 9):
Do you remember the flightnumber ? On 4th Jan the AMS-LHR flights were operated by G-EUXD, G-EUXI, G-EUXJ and G-EUXL.

441 out of AMS at 1915


User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2704 times:
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According to the CAA website G-EUXL and EUXM are leased aircraft? Sorry if this sounds stupid but does this make them part of the GB airways fleet soon to be Easy'd or is this just a lease from a financier?


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User currently offlineEHRD From Netherlands, joined Jun 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2614 times:



Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 12):
441 out of AMS at 1915

That was the G-EUXL


User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2418 times:



Quoting Sandyb123 (Reply 13):
According to the CAA website G-EUXL and EUXM are leased aircraft? Sorry if this sounds stupid but does this make them part of the GB airways fleet soon to be Easy'd or is this just a lease from a financier?

These aircraft are nothing to do with GB. GB's A321's are G-TTIA, TTIB etc.

If you look at most of BA's fleet, excluding, for example, the 737-400's, they show as follows...

Ownership Status: Chartered
Registered Owners: BRITISH AIRWAYS PLC
WATERSIDE (HAA3)
PO BOX 365, HARMONDSWORTH
WEST DRAYTON
UB7 0GB
UNITED KINGDOM



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User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1331 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

I flew on G-EUXL in October 2007and the seats were spanking brand new. The springs on the seat pockets 'failing' is a common problem for aircraft seats and would not be unique to this aircraft.

User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2028 times:

The new Airshow is only on the very latest A321 aircraft. I think it is just XL and XM at the moment. XJ onwards also has the new CIDS (cabin) system. The panel for this is the large LCD at the front of the cabin which previously was just a large panel with lots of buttons on it.

There are also a whole host of upgrades 'under the hood' as well which Airbus have kindly added.



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