Lrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5010 times:
Boysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 888 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4982 times:
Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1): Its an addon to the MAN-PHL flight; the PHL-LAX flight carries the same flight number despite having to change aircraft!
Yes I have heard this before, a couple of years ago the flight was shown as onwards to SFO. Personally I find it ridiculous that a change of aircraft can be hidden by using the same flight number. I read on another thread recently that this kind of thing is allowed in the USA but not in Europe.
Aircraft Communication Addressing and Reporting System.
Pretty much the main air to ground data communication computer on board. Its best described as almost an extension of the Airlines CRS (Central Reservations System). It records the exact moment brakes are released and wheels are up, for "out" times and "off" times it updates the computer which in turn updates airline websites/flight view/ everything displaying flight times and delays. It also logs crew time for pay. Dispatch uses it to send flight releases to the pilots (the little printer you see spitting out papers). Crews will put in pax counts, payloads, ect to send to dispatch, and it will tell them trim settings, fuel requirements, and everything else. The pilots can even order a mocha cappuccino and it will make that (marshmallows available at airline's discretion). Its pretty much one of the most amazing systems on the a/c with the exemption of autopilot/auto-land.
TravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4810 times:
Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1): I believe it is to improve the flight in searches for flights between MAN and LAX as it means it shows up as direct
If I booked what I thought was a non-stop long-haul, and it turned out to be two legs I would go ballistic (especially if there was an alternative non-stop)! That would be a very sure way of getting on the list of airlines I would never book with again...
Phxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4780 times:
Quoting TravelExec (Reply 5): If I booked what I thought was a non-stop long-haul, and it turned out to be two legs I would go ballistic (especially if there was an alternative non-stop)! That would be a very sure way of getting on the list of airlines I would never book with again...
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure its just a way to say the airline has a flight from a to b. When you are booking it will say one stop but since the flight number is the same the airline can advertise service between the two cities, not non-stop service though.
TravelExec From Spain, joined Dec 2007, 449 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4763 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 6): I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure its just a way to say the airline has a flight from a to b. When you are booking it will say one stop but since the flight number is the same the airline can advertise service between the two cities, not non-stop service though.
That would make sense... seems I was getting all worked up there over a non-issue...
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4780 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4633 times:
Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 6): When you are booking it will say one stop but since the flight number is the same the airline can advertise service between the two cities, not non-stop service though.
The term used is "direct flight", but it will list one or more stops. Example: You might see US399 direct flight from IND to DFW. However, it will list two stops, one in PHX and one in LAS. Usually LAS keeps the same a/c, but it changes equipment about half the time in PHX.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7168 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4340 times:
Quoting Boysteve (Reply 3): Personally I find it ridiculous that a change of aircraft can be hidden by using the same flight number. I read on another thread recently that this kind of thing is allowed in the USA but not in Europe.
About the only comparison I can think of for a "similar" thing in the UK was back in winter 1994 when QF009A arrvived in the morning at MAN and departed as QF010A in the evening, with those services acting as feeder services for QF9/QF10. Those services were BA 737s; QF's latter "slot holder" operations had different flight numbers off the top of my head.
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