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A1GP Car Vs NZ B772ER Race.  
User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

"A1GP driver Jonny Reid and a Boeing 777 shared the honours after two races in this morning's ultimate quest for speed race at Auckland International Airport.

The Air New Zealand Boeing 777, which was piloted by Captain Dave Morgan, took advantage of a size handicap and local knowledge of the tarmac to pip Reid's Black Beauty in the first race.

The Boeing eventually reached a take-off of just under 270km p/h, with Reid's Black Beauty reaching nearly 300km p/h, racing past the Boeing just as it left the tarmac and took to the sky.

But the A1 supremo struck back to take the chequered flag in race two.

The races were to promote the arrival of 21 nations for the A1GP Taupo on January 20.

New Zealand is currently third in the standings.

The Boeing 777 had no passengers or freight and minimal fuel, and the big challenge was keeping it on the ground long enough to complete the race. Captain Morgan said the race used less fuel than a test flight.

A1 Team NZL said it approached Auckland Airport about the promotion six months ago and Air New Zealand had joined after safety and environmental concerns were allayed.

Airport chief executive Don Huse said the airport never closed but for the first time in its 42-year history the schedule had been adjusted to squeeze in the race."

-NZ HERALD
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10485746


Well I hadn't heard anything about this race until I saw it in the paper! Sure would have liked to have seen it in person!
I've talked to the Captain before... he's a real good guy.




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User currently offlineCchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1761 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2962 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Thread starter):
The Boeing 777 had no passengers or freight and minimal fuel, and the big challenge was keeping it on the ground long enough to complete the race. Captain Morgan said the race used less fuel than a test flight.

Would it be easier to keep a 744 on the ground for longer?

Quoting Zkpilot (Thread starter):
Well I hadn't heard anything about this race until I saw it in the paper! Sure would have liked to have seen it in person!

NZ1 has said something about this yesterday in the NZ aviation thread.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Any chance that it was decided in advance that each competitor would win a race each, thus good publicity for both Air New Zealand and the A1 New Zealand team?


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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2891 times:



Quoting Cchan (Reply 1):
Would it be easier to keep a 744 on the ground for longer?

possibly, then again it all comes down to ASDA and what the aircraft requires.

Quoting Cchan (Reply 1):
NZ1 has said something about this yesterday in the NZ aviation thread.

oh ok I must have missed that.. I figured it was worth its own thread.



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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2883 times:



Quoting Legoguy (Reply 2):
Any chance that it was decided in advance that each competitor would win a race each, thus good publicity for both Air New Zealand and the A1 New Zealand team?

Well.. The first race saw the 777 have a headstart of about 400m (distance from the beginning of 23L to taxiway A2 but the 2nd race had them both starting at around the same place. So, probably yeah but regardless it was a fun event to watch!

One more reason could be for the gallery so they got a picture of the A1GP car right alongside the 777 (1st race). It was clearly ahead after 1.2km through the 2nd race and so a picture opportunity for where the media gallery was wouldn't have been as good.

Quoting Zkpilot (Thread starter):
Sure would have liked to have seen it in person!

I was looking through my camera for the entire time.. However it zoomed back the other way after each race and was spectacular! The funny thing was that the noise from the car drowned out the 777.. I'll see if I can get any pics of my own up, I was in the domestic car park.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

Hopefully someone will eventually get it on YouTube... I've ALWAYS wanted to see a matchup like that!

User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2835 times:



Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 5):

www.nzherald.co.nz just click on the pic of the 772 and follow the links.

There will be more on TV1 and TV3 tonight... www.tv3.co.nz www.tvnz.co.nz go to the sports news section



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User currently offlineHalophila From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 646 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Now that is cool! Has that been done before with a commercial jet racing a A1/F1 car? I'm aware of the eurofighter side-by-side with Ferrari/Renault.


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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2775 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 4):
Well.. The first race saw the 777 have a headstart of about 400m (distance from the beginning of 23L to taxiway A2 but the 2nd race had them both starting at around the same place. So, probably yeah but regardless it was a fun event to watch!

Well having a 777 sitting there with full power against brakes isn't good for the aircraft, the runway surface, the environment and is wasting fuel so costing $$$. Better to let the 777 have a rolling start since it takes a while for the engines to spool right up.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 4):
I was looking through my camera for the entire time.. However it zoomed back the other way after each race and was spectacular! The funny thing was that the noise from the car drowned out the 777.. I'll see if I can get any pics of my own up, I was in the domestic car park.

That would have been a sight! The high pitch of the A1GP engine is more audible... sound wise tho if you were standing on the grass between them the 777 would have been louder.

heres another article
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4347746a1823.html
once again the media can't get anything to do with aviation right!!! they show a picture of a 744 and label it as a 777.

anyone have a link for the video? I couldn't find it on youtube...and the one of nzherald is flash only.



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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2766 times:



Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
Better to let the 777 have a rolling start since it takes a while for the engines to spool right up

Well it didn't exactly have a 400m rolling start however.. It stopped around taxiway A2 then did what seemed to me as a normal take off, and the car nearly caught up to it too... Paralax especially a tiny object vs a big plane makes things hard to judge by the naked eye fixed at one spot!

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
anyone have a link for the video?

I'd say just wait for the news in 1.5 hrs time! lol tv3 will definitely have it, possibly downloadable. Nothing apart from the tv coverage would be worthy anyway as they had a helicopter to record it on. Actually, as I speak tv3 has a video up on their website now.



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User currently offlineGarethW From New Zealand, joined Apr 2006, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

Fantastic!!! Never thought I would see anything like that in New Zealand as it has turned so politically and environmentally correct in the last few years! One of the reasons I left.......

Anyhow, well done to Auckland Airport, Rob Fyfe and to the Labour Government for not getting in the way and spoiling the fun for everyone like they usually do.

Sorry for the little rant, Im just a patriotic former New Zealander!



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12167 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2550 times:
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First youtube movies of todays race are up, but the quality are CRAP!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cJxVet78e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssHlWyM3Fp0


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

http://www.tv3.co.nz/VideoBrowseAll/...articleID/43093/Default.aspx#video


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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 38
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2219 times:



Quoting GarethW (Reply 10):
Anyhow, well done to Auckland Airport, Rob Fyfe and to the Labour Government for not getting in the way and spoiling the fun for everyone like they usually do.

Funny you say that, as this morning's NZ Herald has a paragraph saying how Jeanette Fitzsimons questioned the footage would boost tourism". She's such a loser and one reason why the Labour Govt were kind of made to be PC.

The flight has been used for data anyway, Boeing is collecting info and looking for ways to reduce fuel consumption by 1% haha still wouldn't make that idiot happy. Maybe she should bike/walk to Wellington every week.



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12167 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2086 times:
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Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
Maybe she should bike/walk to Wellington every week.

Or drive a Toyota Hybrid or Honda Civic Hybrid at 50km/h so it stays on battery power to parliament from her home in the Coromandel


User currently offlineCAP2008 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1976 times:

Anyone ever see this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0InYCDbYkMM



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User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1943 times:
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Quoting Zkpilot (Thread starter):
. Captain Morgan

Any relation?




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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1788 times:



Quoting Luv2cattlecall (Reply 16):

Quoting Zkpilot (Thread starter):
. Captain Morgan

Any relation?

hahahaha classic me hearty!  Smile



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4832 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

Well in the actual A1GP race at Taupo, Johny Reid won the sprint race.


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User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2352 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Which tail number did they use for this event? In this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVeO0rBVqCI&feature=related they show Kilo Hotel so I guess thats the plane they used? In any way this is defiantly impressive- too bad he couldn't have raced the Concorde  Wink


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5332 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

ZK-OKD was used for the race.

User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1581 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):
Funny you say that, as this morning's NZ Herald has a paragraph saying how Jeanette Fitzsimons questioned the footage would boost tourism". She's such a loser and one reason why the Labour Govt were kind of made to be PC

Absolutly agree. Some of the things that comes out of her mouth is just total crap. She must be constantly on some wacky tabacky sh*t IMO  Wink


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