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AA Timetable Shows JFK-STN Being Dropped?  
User currently offlineThirteenRight From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 340 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6056 times:

The AA PDF timetable at http://www.aatimetable.com/aa.pdf shows JFK-STN as being discontinued on March 7. Under STN it doesnt denote the discontinuation and the flights are still bookable (at least into April).

Quote:
London (Stansted) GB (STN) 3,465mi
7:45p 8:00a+1 AA124 763 0 DK 7:15
Above Disc. MAR7

Can someone elaborate or is this just a typo?

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User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6024 times:

It is still scheduled to operate as normal. Current and future bookings have been rather good too.


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User currently offlineMitchell Gant From Montserrat, joined Aug 2000, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5971 times:

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if AA dropped STN in the near future. Now that Maxjet has gone the way of the Dodo, no need for AA to keep flushing money on Stansted....mission accomplished.

User currently offlineGsosbee From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5895 times:

They still have Eos to deal with into STN. Much stronger competition than Maxjet since Eos is a first class product and AA only has Business into STN.

User currently offlineBreaker1011 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 938 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5853 times:

If it's true, wouldnt be the first time AA has dropped STN.


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User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2010 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5828 times:

Any chance of CO returning to STN now that they are in both LGW and LHR?

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5769 times:



Quoting ThirteenRight (Thread starter):
The AA PDF timetable at http://www.aatimetable.com/aa.pdf shows JFK-STN as being discontinued on March 7. Under STN it doesnt denote the discontinuation and the flights are still bookable (at least into April).

This is completely wrong.

Quoting JDAirCEO (Reply 1):

This is true as they start 2x daily 7th April 2008.

Flight American Airlines 124/125
From New York (JFK) NY US (JFK) Terminal 8
Departure Time 6:45 PM
To London (Stansted) GB (STN) Terminal
Arrival Time 7:10 AM
Duration 7h25m
Aircraft Type 763

Flight American Airlines 128/129
From New York (JFK) NY US (JFK) Terminal 8
Departure Time 9:45 PM
To London (Stansted) GB (STN) Terminal
Arrival Time 9:55 AM
Duration 7h10m
Aircraft Type 763



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User currently offlineAvianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5752 times:



Quoting ThirteenRight (Thread starter):
Can someone elaborate or is this just a typo?

Probably just a typo, as on March 8, there is a minor schedule change and the flight departs at 7:15pm. In fact, on April 7, the second JFK-STN daily starts operating.



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5709 times:



Quoting ThirteenRight (Thread starter):
Can someone elaborate or is this just a typo?

Bad typo!

You might have missed this press release.

American Airlines Launches New Flights From New York JFK To London Stansted

In April 2008, American will add a second daily frequency giving passengers the choice of an early or late evening departure from New York to Stansted and a morning or late afternoon departure from Stansted to New York.

The new flights will operate using a Boeing 767-300 aircraft with 225 seats, including 30 Business Class seats and 195 seats in the Economy cabin. The flights feature American’s new Business Class seats, designed to give customers more comfort, flexibility and privacy. The fully motorized lie-flat seats, in a 2-2-2 configuration, offer a personal inflight entertainment device with audio and video on demand, state-of-the-art cabin lighting, and sleek, ergonomically-designed overhead bins to enhance the travel experience for the business customer.



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User currently offlineAAJFKSJUBKLYN From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 901 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

The flight appears to be doing excellently! They have signs all over NY for this flight as well. Spoke to an FA friend, FA's say the flights are normally packed.

User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3946 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5271 times:



Quoting Gsosbee (Reply 3):
They still have Eos to deal with into STN. Much stronger competition than Maxjet since Eos is a first class product and AA only has Business into STN.

How could they effectively compete with their Business Class with a First Class product? It is a different product for about the same price (?), while Maxjet in the widest sense was the same product but with a price differential.


User currently offlineCo 757-300 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2001, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5143 times:

is this a largely o/d route? or is there alot of people connecting to the LCCs and charter airlines?

User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1405 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Twice daily 763!!

Eeekkk!

Is that not a bit overkill?

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5039 times:



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 10):
How could they effectively compete with their Business Class with a First Class product? It is a different product for about the same price (?), while Maxjet in the widest sense was the same product but with a price differential.

FF miles, a wider network etc. If you're flying from somewhere else in the US besides JFK, then you're more likely to fly AA all the way.

I'l be on JFK-STN tomorrow evening!! Can't wait...STN is much more convenient for me to get to Cambridge then LHR!!

AA1818



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User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5007 times:



Quoting Mitchell Gant (Reply 2):
It wouldn't surprise me one bit if AA dropped STN in the near future. Now that Maxjet has gone the way of the Dodo, no need for AA to keep flushing money on Stansted....mission accomplished.

Yeah but if you have work in London City, STN is actually a lot faster to connect to the City rather than landing at LHR and then having trail through Londont to get to the City.
I think AA actually have done a good move on taking out the competition of Silverjet and EOS as AA has probably more customers and also connections!


User currently offlineCFMitch56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4261 times:



Quoting Co 757-300 (Reply 11):
is this a largely o/d route? or is there alot of people connecting to the LCCs and charter airlines?

I'd like to know this too. I played around with the idea of planning a trip where I hopped on an FR flight after taking a legacy from the states (ended up taking the bus from FRA to HHN to fly FR).

Does FR or U2 try to offer any services or specials (other than cheap fares) to attract pax from the AA flight to fly onward with them?


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

American has a big slice of the NY corporate travel market and a lot of investment banking business in particular, who fly their employees to and from. Many of the banks have offices in Canary Wharf which is closer to Stansted than Heathrow.

Over time, AA will probably drop the 763's and use 757's outfitted with the new biz class seats, but that will take some time.


User currently offlineSTNDEICER From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3660 times:

Does anyone know if AA are planning any more routes from STN now maxjet have gone? After all, Maxjet had fairly good loads on their LAX and LAS services

Would they consider moving some flights from LHR or LGW?


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3316 times:



Quoting STNDEICER (Reply 17):
Does anyone know if AA are planning any more routes from STN now maxjet have gone? After all, Maxjet had fairly good loads on their LAX and LAS services

Would they consider moving some flights from LHR or LGW?

Would STN be a good idea from AAs MIA hub?
I mean, I know AA is looking for more slots at LHR for MIA. Couldn't AA do an MIA-STN flight and target the subshine vacation state at the same time for northern London communities?

Possible problem though, aircraft?


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3275 times:

Quoting Avianca707359B (Reply 7):
Probably just a typo, as on March 8, there is a minor schedule change and the flight departs at 7:15pm. In fact, on April 7, the second JFK-STN daily starts operating.

Daylight savings time has been moved up 1 month in the USA but not in England, IIRC, so this dictates a schedule change for this period, as the time difference drops to 4 hours from 5 hours.

Now, March 8th is a Saturday night, and the clock changes Sunday the 9th at 2AM (which becomes 3AM), so is there a second 1/2 schedule change on Sunday? I can see them doing 1/2 hour change Saturday to make up for the fact the time will change while the plane is in the air, but it has to meet the next day's schedule coming back to JFK...

[Edited 2008-01-09 22:01:40]


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User currently offlineWolflair From Mexico, joined Sep 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3201 times:



Quoting CFMitch56 (Reply 15):
Does FR or U2 try to offer any services or specials (other than cheap fares) to attract pax from the AA flight to fly onward with them?

None offer any services. Additionally, any pax attempting to connect in STN will have to go through immigration/customs and then rush to the other side of the terminal just to reach the corresponding check-in desks.

Quoting Albird87 (Reply 14):
Yeah but if you have work in London City, STN is actually a lot faster to connect to the City rather than landing at LHR and then having trail through Londont to get to the City.

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Quoting Albird87 (Reply 14):
I think AA actually have done a good move on taking out the competition of Silverjet and EOS as AA has probably more customers and also connections!

STN is not only convenient for O&D going to the City. London commuters living in Essex, Cambridge, East Herts and northeast London requiring any travel to the states will find STN much more convenient for any trip to the US (myself included). The fact is, STN has its own "local" market. Once the 2nd rwy is approved we can see much more longflights from STN.

Slightly off-topic (Still related to STN-JFK). I am taking AA125 later this month. For those familiar with JFK, is it easy to move between terminals while airside in JFK? I've just found out that AA lounges in JFK are not part of Priority Pass, so I may have to move to another terminal to get to a lounge.



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User currently offlineGsosbee From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3099 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 19):
Slightly off-topic (Still related to STN-JFK). I am taking AA125 later this month. For those familiar with JFK, is it easy to move between terminals while airside in JFK? I've just found out that AA lounges in JFK are not part of Priority Pass, so I may have to move to another terminal to get to a lounge.

I believe the train is the only way around, and it is outside of security.


User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 3003 times:

While this is good news I'm surprised at the timings though. Thats not very long between the 2 flights departing.

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 6):
Flight American Airlines 124/125
From New York (JFK) NY US (JFK) Terminal 8
Departure Time 6:45 PM



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 6):
Flight American Airlines 128/129
From New York (JFK) NY US (JFK) Terminal 8
Departure Time 9:45 PM




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User currently offlineCharliedelta From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2762 times:



Quoting Albird87 (Reply 14):
Yeah but if you have work in London City, STN is actually a lot faster to connect to the City rather than landing at LHR and then having trail through Londont to get to the City.
I think AA actually have done a good move on taking out the competition of Silverjet and EOS as AA has probably more customers and also connections

I don't think Stansted is fastest to the City. It's about 45 minutes to Liverpool St. The Heathrow Express takes 15 mins to Paddington, after which you can take the Tube in less than half an hour. I think Luton is the second fastest, 25 minutes to St Pancras.

BTW Silverjet fly from Luton not Stansted.


User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

I don't know if this is standard practice for EOS, but they used to provide your train ticket to the city.. that's going away here in the shortly.. Never flown them when it wasn't on our corp contract so I don't know for sure...


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25 Cubsrule : How difficult is it to secure STN slots now?
26 MAH4546 : A three-hour spread is typical for trans-Atlantic, Europe-bound flights with two daily flights.
27 FlyCaledonian : I'm surprised AA didn't look at launching JFK-LGW, as with First Capital Connect you have regular train services direct into the heart of the City, as
28 Bongodog1964 : STN for many in the financial sector is the quickest; as you say 45 minutes to Liverpool Street, with many of the big banks within easy walking dista
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