Jeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 665 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9918 times:
AMS-ACC
AMS-CAI
AMS-AUA
AMS-CUR
AMS-BON-GYE-UIO
I can't think of any others right now.
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TristarCrazy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 305 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9893 times:
Funny you should ask, was just looking at the MD11 flights on flightaware.com....KLM 642 from JFK to AMS and KLM 672 YUL to AMS are both MD11 flights
JAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3138 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9896 times:
Sometimes they go to Canada as (YUL, sometimes YYZ and YVR). Other than those listed above they don't usually do other flights besides the obvious substitutions.
I'll take 100 litres a side AVGAS with Prist - C172 pilot
UAL727NE From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 205 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9876 times:
Thanks! i know my brother saw one in EWR right before christmas. Do they fly there all the time?
Gotta love 3 holers!!! MD11,DC10,L-1011,B727 for life!!!!
Jeremy From United States of America, joined May 2001, 665 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9861 times:
Quoting UAL727NE (Reply 4): Thanks! i know my brother saw one in EWR right before christmas. Do they fly there all the time?
EWR is showing a 333 in use now.
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HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4211 posts, RR: 79 Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9668 times:
Current MD11 routes:
KL553/554 AMS CAI AMS
KL567/569/571 AMS JRO DAR AMS
KL587/588 AMS LOS AMS
KL589/590 AMS ACC AMS
KL641/642 AMS JFK AMS
KL671/672 AMS CAI AMS
KL733/734 AMS AUA AMS
KL735/736 AMS CUR AMS
KL753/754 AMS BON GYE UIO BON AMS
KL765 AMS SXM AUA AMS
KL769 AMS BON AUA AMS
KL873/874 AMS HYD AMS
EWR and SFO just finished last week, although EWR will be back for a couple of weeks in March. Next summer, YVR and DEL will be back as well as PTY as a new destination.
Flew on KL672 YUL-AMS and KL671 AMS-YUL last September. I was fortunate enough to get upgraded to business class on the AMS-YUL run, and even more fortunate to be in the cockpit for the last 30 minutes of the same flight (including during approach, touchdown and taxi to the gate). What a smooth touchdown right on the centerline of 24R in YUL. Awesome aircraft! The crew was amazing! Will never forget it !
Thenoflyzone
[Edited 2008-01-08 00:30:06]
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
SK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 973 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 9602 times:
Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 7): and even more fortunate to be in the cockpit for the last 30 minutes of the same flight (including during approach, touchdown and taxi to the gate
PHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9453 times:
You may like to know that KLM has begun fitting the M11 with PTV's in Y; so the plane is there to stay for a couple of years for sure.
After TAM will withdraw the M11 sometime this year and those frames will be converted to freighters I think AY and KL will be the only legacies that fly the M11. AY is planning to replace the M11 with A333, so in 5 years or so KLM might be the only M11 pax operator left.
Whappeh From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1558 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9403 times:
The last MD-11 I've seen was a KLM in SFO (granted that was over a year ago...)
PHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9396 times:
Quoting Burkhard (Reply 12): What about Lima, Peru? Was an MD11 via Aruba or Curacao some time ago.
Switched to non-stop 772 and became a huge success afterwards. AMS-LIM in season sees one of the highest load factors in the KLM 777 network.
Thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1704 posts, RR: 11 Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8744 times:
Quoting PHKLM (Reply 13): You may like to know that KLM has begun fitting the M11 with PTV's in Y; so the plane is there to stay for a couple of years for sure.
The pilots confirmed this while i was in their office !! They said the MD11 was there to stay at least for another 4 to 5 years.
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
Frontierflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 192 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8616 times:
All of us md 11 lovers should chip in and buy a bird. We can all take trips to exotic places. You can wake me up now.
AirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 8241 times:
Why has KLM stuck with the MD-11 for so long when others have phased it out? Did they get theirs later?? Do have so many that they can't phase them out without a replacement?
Persotvik From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 274 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 8239 times:
KLM will keep the world most beautiful airliner until 2015
Just love flying
25 WesternA318: I saw a KLM MD-11 at EWR two days ago...I dont know if its the normal equipment, but DAMN, what a beautiful change rom all the blue-tailed Boeings, lo
26 UAL727NE: Well if I cash in all my gold I have invested I could buy one. I really want to so bad! You a pilot?
27 Seabosdca: Must have been a substituted 777 or A332. Seriously, the MD-11 approach speeds are hard to believe...
28 Viscount724: According to Boeing, the MD-11 approach speed is basically identical to the 747-400 (and 747-8).
29 YULWinterSkies: YUL gets it frequently. Many other carriers fly widebodies from Europe into CAI. I can think of AF or BA, I'd bet LH does it too. I can see high deman
30 WesternA318: A300's have been seen in CAI. Ahh, I remember when TWA used to send in 747's though...
31 AirForceOne: KLM usually flies the MD-11 into YVR in the summertime. After that it is the A330. YYZ and YUL are Year round I believe. AirForceOne
32 Jeremy: Probably meant to type YUL for KL671/672 KL 553/554 uses a combination of 74E/M11/772 depending on the day. The day I am flying is scheduled to have
33 FAEDC3: Does anybody know, if the arrival of the new 773 will affect in any way the MD network? I mean eventhough we all know that these awesome a/c are here
34 Aussieindc: I have seen it pop up when making reservations for our clients that it will be operating into IAD early April. From memory, April 5 AMS - IAD is one s
35 PA201: PHKLM, Why did the conversion to a 777 bring on huge sucess over the MD-11 ? Editing to say I just saw the answer to my own question. The flight went
36 Levg79: AMS-EWR route is actually being operated by NW in the winter, hence the A333. As a matter of fact, I don't believe that KL has any A333s in their fle
38 HB-IWC: The arrival of the B77W will free up some B772 capacity. As such the AMS JRO DAR AMS route will be upgauged from the current MD11 to a B772 service.
39 Trijetsrmissed: KL has 10 MD-11's delivered between 1993-97. The KL MD-11's are full PIP modified, including a larger No. 2 intake, composite panels, higher MTOW/ran
40 PHKLM: A mystery to me as well. But remember KLM has a very longstanding relationship with Douglas aircraft, it is the only airline in the world that has op
41 Joost: I've heard once that the lease rates on the MD-11s are extremely low. The first leases expired somewhere in the early 2000s, and as the demand at the
42 JRadier: According to Airline Fleets 2005 (the most recent edition I have, but I don't think it changed a lot) only KCA and KCI are leased from ILFC, the rest
43 Levg79: What about AY? I think they operated all DC variants as well.
45 MD11junkie: What about Delta Air Lines? Didn't they operate all of the Douglas airplanes?
46 JRadier: Did Finair ever operate the DC-5? Technically didn't operate all Douglas models as KLM didn't operate the DC-1. As none entered service I don't think
47 Fokker70NG: Finnair never operated the DC-5. Actually KLM/KNILM and ANA (Ansett) were the only civil operators, the other civil DC-5 orders were cancelled becaus
48 TrijetsRMissed: Which makes me wonder, why didn't KL order the MD-80 over the 737 classic? The 772ER has been the most popular MD-11 replacement, and would seem like
49 Warren747sp: I had a pleasure of seeing the KLM MD11 really close at Mt. Kilimanjaro airport last year. It pulled in just right in front of our waiting area window
50 PHKLM: KLM does operate the 772ER but has stated it will not purchase additional frames, any follow up order will be a 77W.
51 AverageUser: Actually they did, through their 100% subsidiary Kar-Air. One DC-6, OH-KDA, was converted into a swing-tail cargo version and used as late as 1981 un
52 TrijetsRMissed: The fact the bird is so rare now in pax form makes it all the more special. Most of my shots at AMS this May were of KL MD-11's, great to see three o
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