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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Posted (13 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

Greetings.....
Any ideas what aircraft will American keep from TWA's
fleets after the sale is completed?? I think the DC-9s & 717 will not be retained. Also, do TWA's 757s have RR engines like AA?? I'm new here, so I'm feeling my way around right now. Thanks in advance.


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User currently offlineILOVEPLANES! From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

TWA's 757s have Pratt and Whitney Engines. Will AA give the 757s to another airline like Delta who have 757s equipped with P&W engines???? AA will probably keep the 717 (who knows?) since AA loves the MD-80.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy hope that helps

User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

American might trade the TWA P&W 2000 powered 757s to United in return for the RR RB211 powered US Airways 757s.

User currently offlineWorkbench From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

AA will not keep the 717's. The DC9's may stay around for a while but will likely be quickly phased out. No decision has been made on the 75's. Most likely they will keep them. As par of the UA/US/AA three way deal AA will already get US RR powered 75's

User currently offlineAa737 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Aren't the US 757s very old, relatively. I thought they were some of the first off prodiction line, seems like kind of a unfair trade.

User currently offlineAA737-800 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Why wouldn't AA keep the 717? Slightly bigger than the Fokker 100, and I believe it has commonality with the cockpit of the MD-80, which AA has 260 of.

AA737-800


User currently onlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

AA has stated it has no intention of keeping the 717. It also does NOT have cockpit comonality with the MD-80, it has an all new 6-screen EFIS flight deck.


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User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 3 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Actually, American has not publically stated whether or not they will keep the 717 fleet.

User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 1184 times:
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I sure hope that AA keeps the 717s... great aircraft, and the loss of the TWA order would be a big blow to the program. Boeing should beg -- and I mean beg -- AA to keep that fleet on...

User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 2 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

AA will not get rid of the Fokker 100s anytime soon, so, if you think the 717 has a chance with AA, you are wrong.

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User currently offlineHighliner2 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

I hope not, F100 gets no respect but I love them......


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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

Ok this is what I read.

First of all American has 284 +/- Md-80's, they gained an extra 24 from Reno Air + a couple of MD-90's which may have been phased out, I don't know.

For the F-100 fan here, as part of the merger plans between USAIR and United and the TWA/AA it gets kind of confusing with AA actually getting some of USairway's aircraft.

What I recall reading a while back was that American would keep the MD-80's from TWA and grab the TWA 757's. No word on the 717's (best advice would be to sell/lease them to AirTran) No word on where the 767's would go either (but I want to say United as part of a cross deal)

As for the USairway aircraft American wants their F100s and MD-80s. The USairway A319/20 and some newer 737s along with 757 and remaining 767's would go to United as I recall. The older 737 and a lot of the commuter fleet would go to start up airlines Potomac Air(?) and DC Air.

No one quote me, I don't have my references available right now on all these facts, I am trying to do this by memory.

No word on where the USAirways A330s would go either (I would advise selling them to Northwest so they can get a head start retiring that aging DC-10 fleet before the A330 arrives in 2003.


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Really briefly, I don't think my post stuck.

I had read on the airline news here that as part of a deal between American and United that United would get some TWA aircraft along with their USAirways aircraft and American would get some USAirways aircraft as well as their TWA aircraft.

American would get MD-80s and 757s from TWA
American would get MD-80s and F100s from USAirways
BTW- American has 284 MD-80s not 260 (Reno Air purchase)

United would get A319/A320 along with 757s from USAirways, perhaps 767s and some of the newer 737s.

United would I believe get 767s from TWA

No word on where the 717s from TWA would go, best bet would be to go to AirTran.

No word on where USAirways A330s would go, but my best choice would be to sell them to Northwest early to start the replacement of DC-10s

I assume the DC-9s from both fleets would be retired.

I do know that a lot of USAirways aircraft are going to start ups DCAir and Potomac Air


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