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Status Of AA 777 Cabin Upgrades  
User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6028 times:

Hello all,

I was just wondering what the status of the cabin upgrades to AA's 777s is. How many are yet to get Flagship Suites in F? What about J class? How many have the new J seat, and how many are left? When are these expected to be completed?

Without imposing on anybody, if anybody has easy access to a list of registrations, that would be awesome!

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Cameron

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User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 692 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5938 times:

American wisely chose to reconfigure the 777s without the Flagship Suite (formerly known as the "Pacific Configuration") first. There are currently 20 777s with the new Business Class and video system installed. There is one 777 left with the old 18-seat first class, and 26 with the 16 F/35 C/194 configuration. The installation is going quite fast, and should be completed by late summer.

Tail numbers with the Flagship Suite, new Business Class and video system: 7AA, 7AB, 7AC, 7AD, 7AE, 7AG, 7AH, 7AJ, 7AK, 7AL, 7AM, 7AN, 7AP, 7AR, 7AS, 7AT, 7AU, 7BG, 7BW, 7BX

Tail number of aircraft without Flagship Suite: 7AF, but is going through reconfiguration process now

All other tail numbers have the Flagship Suite, but not the new J class and video system.

The reconfigured 777s are assigned randomly, not to any particular flight or destination, and you don't know which aircraft you have until you're at the gate, or in my case, when I sign in for my trip.

Also on a side note, all 58 767-300s have the new J class.


User currently offlineAlbird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5922 times:

WOW thats quick!! i hope then on my next trip that i should have no probs getting a flagship suite then!

On a side note about AAs new AVOD..... I was looking through the AAtractions magazine on a recent flight and looking at the AVOD choices and i have to say that AA are being pretty cheap and poor on choice for Y customers and also sometimes J!!

Please AA.... if you are going to offer AVOD, firstly make it AVOD for everybody on the flight and also give everybody the same choice of videos!!
BA have a great selection and i loved the choice last time i went with them!! Ok you dont get games in Y but heck i dont care as the selection of films and tv shows was great!!


User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5870 times:



Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 1):
The reconfigured 777s are assigned randomly, not to any particular flight or destination, and you don't know which aircraft you have until you're at the gate,

Will it even show up in Jetnet the day of, or will the load planner always show 16F/35C??


User currently offlineFlavio340 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

How does the IFE for economy work on the reconfigured 777? It is my understanding that there is a greater selection of movies and a few games. Also the movies are not AVOD but start when you select them, however the person is not able to fast forward or rewind. Is that correct? One final question on the flagship suit have they changed the size of the monitors, because I think the business class seats have bigger monitors?

User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5654 times:



Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 1):

Thanks a bunch for the info!!!! Any idea when the 777 upgrades are supposed to be completed??

Again, thank you!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineBaron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5582 times:

I just flew to/from Brazil on AA 950/951 and they had the old F and the old J class seats. What config is that?

How many 777 remain in the old config?

Also, Do all the 763s with the new J have the upgraded 777/764-style interior/bins in Y as well?

Thanks.



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User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5542 times:



Quoting Baron95 (Reply 6):

Per NYCAAer, it seems as though you got really unlucky, and wound up on ship 7AF, N775AN. Define "old config." 7AF is the only plane that has both the old style "coffin seats" and the old J cabin, but many (25? 27? can't remember how many 777s AA has) have the Flagship Suites but the old J cabin.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5519 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 7):
Define "old config."

18F/35J "coffin seat" configuration.

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 6):
How many 777 remain in the old config?

1, the one you flew on (if it is really in the 18F/35J configuration).

Quoting Baron95 (Reply 6):
Also, Do all the 763s with the new J have the upgraded 777/764-style interior/bins in Y as well?

Yes, though, only half of the 763 is converted, only the Business Cabin and the first four rows of economy have the Boeing Signature Interiors.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
Any idea when the 777 upgrades are supposed to be completed??

Flagship Suites in every 777 by the end of 2007, Spring or Summer 2008 for the new J seats.

Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 4):
Also the movies are not AVOD but start when you select them, however the person is not able to fast forward or rewind.

They work on some kind of spool, i.e. a movie starting every 25 minutes. Its quasi-AVOD (or American's latest attempt to half ass a product), but its certainly an improvement on the current product).


User currently onlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5510 times:



Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 8):
Flagship Suites in every 777 by the end of 2007

Hehe, you do know it's already 2008, right?  Wink

Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 8):
Spring or Summer 2008 for the new J seats.

Excellent! So chances are pretty good if I fly to FRA from DFW in mid May, I'll get a new J seat.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineTonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5493 times:

My last 4 trips to Brazil in Dec07, the 777s had new biz class! They look more spacious then the 763s

User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5466 times:



Quoting Albird87 (Reply 2):
Please AA.... if you are going to offer AVOD, firstly make it AVOD for everybody on the flight and also give everybody the same choice of videos!!

Agree

Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 4):
How does the IFE for economy work on the reconfigured 777? It is my understanding that there is a greater selection of movies and a few games. Also the movies are not AVOD but start when you select them, however the person is not able to fast forward or rewind. Is that correct? One final question on the flagship suit have they changed the size of the monitors, because I think the business class seats have bigger monitors?

Movies start in 20 to 25 minute intervals and I could not forward or rewind them...

The selection of movies is not that good, but I was told AA will be able to add more movies to each category in the future. I just flew N777AN from NRT to DFW and the AVOD was a nightmare. One hour into the flight, the whole system collapsed and had to be restarted. Two hours into the flight, many passengers started to have problems with the system (only the map was displayed, freeze, etc). Mine just died. I told the flight attendant and she tried to restart it (just the one on my seat 42B), but the system was showing as inoperative. My brothers had problems with the audio and he could only hear a loud beep on every channel. Flight attendants were excellent and tried to do whatever they could to fix it, but couldn't make it work. One of them offered me his PSP, but I decided to read most of the flight...


User currently offlineElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5459 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 9):
Hehe, you do know it's already 2008, right?  

Yup, I know. They missed their target by one aircraft.


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4226 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5430 times:



Quoting Rojo (Reply 11):
Movies start in 20 to 25 minute intervals and I could not forward or rewind them...

The selection of movies is not that good, but I was told AA will be able to add more movies to each category in the future. I just flew N777AN from NRT to DFW and the AVOD was a nightmare. One hour into the flight, the whole system collapsed and had to be restarted. Two hours into the flight, many passengers started to have problems with the system (only the map was displayed, freeze, etc). Mine just died. I told the flight attendant and she tried to restart it (just the one on my seat 42B), but the system was showing as inoperative. My brothers had problems with the audio and he could only hear a loud beep on every channel. Flight attendants were excellent and tried to do whatever they could to fix it, but couldn't make it work. One of them offered me his PSP, but I decided to read most of the flight...

I guess when I go to Europe I will bring my own DVD player.  bigthumbsup   biggrin 



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User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 692 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5414 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 3):
Will it even show up in Jetnet the day of, or will the load planner always show 16F/35C??

So far Jetnet and aa.com will only show the 16/35 configuration and the agents release the seats during the seat assignment process at the ticket counter or gate.


User currently offlineDtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1567 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5363 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 3):
Will it even show up in Jetnet the day of, or will the load planner always show 16F/35C??

Like it was said before, when a certain aircraft is assigned to a route it will show up on the seat map. You'll know if you have a reconfigured aircraft if you can see a seat 8HJ. I flew ORD-DFW in October on ship 7AP and lucky for me I got seat 8J.



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4469 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5294 times:



Quoting Dtw757 (Reply 15):
I flew ORD-DFW in October on ship 7AP and lucky for me I got seat 8J.

That's the "extra" row at the front of the biz cabin, yes? I'm trying to visualize what is to your left in this row? The wall of the lavs that are in the center of the plane?

If so, that would make 8H/J somewhat of a private little area of the biz class cabin.


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