Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3102 posts, RR: 47 Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4760 times:
Hello all,
I was just wondering what the status of the cabin upgrades to AA's 777s is. How many are yet to get Flagship Suites in F? What about J class? How many have the new J seat, and how many are left? When are these expected to be completed?
Without imposing on anybody, if anybody has easy access to a list of registrations, that would be awesome!
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4670 times:
American wisely chose to reconfigure the 777s without the Flagship Suite (formerly known as the "Pacific Configuration") first. There are currently 20 777s with the new Business Class and video system installed. There is one 777 left with the old 18-seat first class, and 26 with the 16 F/35 C/194 configuration. The installation is going quite fast, and should be completed by late summer.
Tail numbers with the Flagship Suite, new Business Class and video system: 7AA, 7AB, 7AC, 7AD, 7AE, 7AG, 7AH, 7AJ, 7AK, 7AL, 7AM, 7AN, 7AP, 7AR, 7AS, 7AT, 7AU, 7BG, 7BW, 7BX
Tail number of aircraft without Flagship Suite: 7AF, but is going through reconfiguration process now
All other tail numbers have the Flagship Suite, but not the new J class and video system.
The reconfigured 777s are assigned randomly, not to any particular flight or destination, and you don't know which aircraft you have until you're at the gate, or in my case, when I sign in for my trip.
Also on a side note, all 58 767-300s have the new J class.
Albird87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4654 times:
WOW thats quick!! i hope then on my next trip that i should have no probs getting a flagship suite then!
On a side note about AAs new AVOD..... I was looking through the AAtractions magazine on a recent flight and looking at the AVOD choices and i have to say that AA are being pretty cheap and poor on choice for Y customers and also sometimes J!!
Please AA.... if you are going to offer AVOD, firstly make it AVOD for everybody on the flight and also give everybody the same choice of videos!!
BA have a great selection and i loved the choice last time i went with them!! Ok you dont get games in Y but heck i dont care as the selection of films and tv shows was great!!
Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3143 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4602 times:
Quoting NYCAAer (Reply 1): The reconfigured 777s are assigned randomly, not to any particular flight or destination, and you don't know which aircraft you have until you're at the gate,
Will it even show up in Jetnet the day of, or will the load planner always show 16F/35C??
Flavio340 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 180 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4570 times:
How does the IFE for economy work on the reconfigured 777? It is my understanding that there is a greater selection of movies and a few games. Also the movies are not AVOD but start when you select them, however the person is not able to fast forward or rewind. Is that correct? One final question on the flagship suit have they changed the size of the monitors, because I think the business class seats have bigger monitors?
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3102 posts, RR: 47 Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4386 times:
Baron95 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1335 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4314 times:
I just flew to/from Brazil on AA 950/951 and they had the old F and the old J class seats. What config is that?
How many 777 remain in the old config?
Also, Do all the 763s with the new J have the upgraded 777/764-style interior/bins in Y as well?
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3102 posts, RR: 47 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4274 times:
Per NYCAAer, it seems as though you got really unlucky, and wound up on ship 7AF, N775AN. Define "old config." 7AF is the only plane that has both the old style "coffin seats" and the old J cabin, but many (25? 27? can't remember how many 777s AA has) have the Flagship Suites but the old J cabin.
ElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1515 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4251 times:
Quoting Baron95 (Reply 6): How many 777 remain in the old config?
1, the one you flew on (if it is really in the 18F/35J configuration).
Quoting Baron95 (Reply 6): Also, Do all the 763s with the new J have the upgraded 777/764-style interior/bins in Y as well?
Yes, though, only half of the 763 is converted, only the Business Cabin and the first four rows of economy have the Boeing Signature Interiors.
Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5): Any idea when the 777 upgrades are supposed to be completed??
Flagship Suites in every 777 by the end of 2007, Spring or Summer 2008 for the new J seats.
Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 4): Also the movies are not AVOD but start when you select them, however the person is not able to fast forward or rewind.
They work on some kind of spool, i.e. a movie starting every 25 minutes. Its quasi-AVOD (or American's latest attempt to half ass a product), but its certainly an improvement on the current product).
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3102 posts, RR: 47 Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4242 times:
Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 8): Flagship Suites in every 777 by the end of 2007
Hehe, you do know it's already 2008, right?
Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 8): Spring or Summer 2008 for the new J seats.
Excellent! So chances are pretty good if I fly to FRA from DFW in mid May, I'll get a new J seat.
Rojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2397 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4198 times:
Quoting Albird87 (Reply 2): Please AA.... if you are going to offer AVOD, firstly make it AVOD for everybody on the flight and also give everybody the same choice of videos!!
Agree
Quoting Flavio340 (Reply 4): How does the IFE for economy work on the reconfigured 777? It is my understanding that there is a greater selection of movies and a few games. Also the movies are not AVOD but start when you select them, however the person is not able to fast forward or rewind. Is that correct? One final question on the flagship suit have they changed the size of the monitors, because I think the business class seats have bigger monitors?
Movies start in 20 to 25 minute intervals and I could not forward or rewind them...
The selection of movies is not that good, but I was told AA will be able to add more movies to each category in the future. I just flew N777AN from NRT to DFW and the AVOD was a nightmare. One hour into the flight, the whole system collapsed and had to be restarted. Two hours into the flight, many passengers started to have problems with the system (only the map was displayed, freeze, etc). Mine just died. I told the flight attendant and she tried to restart it (just the one on my seat 42B), but the system was showing as inoperative. My brothers had problems with the audio and he could only hear a loud beep on every channel. Flight attendants were excellent and tried to do whatever they could to fix it, but couldn't make it work. One of them offered me his PSP, but I decided to read most of the flight...
ElmoTheHobo From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1515 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4191 times:
Brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3271 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4162 times:
Quoting Rojo (Reply 11): Movies start in 20 to 25 minute intervals and I could not forward or rewind them...
The selection of movies is not that good, but I was told AA will be able to add more movies to each category in the future. I just flew N777AN from NRT to DFW and the AVOD was a nightmare. One hour into the flight, the whole system collapsed and had to be restarted. Two hours into the flight, many passengers started to have problems with the system (only the map was displayed, freeze, etc). Mine just died. I told the flight attendant and she tried to restart it (just the one on my seat 42B), but the system was showing as inoperative. My brothers had problems with the audio and he could only hear a loud beep on every channel. Flight attendants were excellent and tried to do whatever they could to fix it, but couldn't make it work. One of them offered me his PSP, but I decided to read most of the flight...
I guess when I go to Europe I will bring my own DVD player.
NYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 660 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4146 times:
Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 3): Will it even show up in Jetnet the day of, or will the load planner always show 16F/35C??
So far Jetnet and aa.com will only show the 16/35 configuration and the agents release the seats during the seat assignment process at the ticket counter or gate.
Dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1424 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4095 times:
Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 3): Will it even show up in Jetnet the day of, or will the load planner always show 16F/35C??
Like it was said before, when a certain aircraft is assigned to a route it will show up on the seat map. You'll know if you have a reconfigured aircraft if you can see a seat 8HJ. I flew ORD-DFW in October on ship 7AP and lucky for me I got seat 8J.
N62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3755 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4026 times:
Quoting Dtw757 (Reply 15): I flew ORD-DFW in October on ship 7AP and lucky for me I got seat 8J.
That's the "extra" row at the front of the biz cabin, yes? I'm trying to visualize what is to your left in this row? The wall of the lavs that are in the center of the plane?
If so, that would make 8H/J somewhat of a private little area of the biz class cabin.
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