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Qantas QF123 SYD-BOM NON Stop Feb 1 2008!  
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10427 times:

Hey A.Netter's.... Big grin

Just thought I would break the ice by announcing the long awaited QF 123 SYD-BOM service is to commence on Feb 1st 2008 with the NEW A330-200... Big grin



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The aircraft is configured in 2 class 36J199Y... I believe the aircraft has 201 seats in Y/C but these are reserved as a crew rest area...

EK413


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User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4757 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 10405 times:

Ah... I remember those days when QF123 was a 767-300 service SYD-SIN-BOM! I was on that flight a few times.


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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10367 times:

Will they revert back to the same schedules as they were when they did it non-stop with the 747-300s??

Those schedules were far more convinient

Karan


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10345 times:

I wonder how popular this flight will be considering the recent on field events.. Haha the new livery is yet to win me over. And I'm not really looking forward to their switching of QF25/26 to the A332 3x weekly either.


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User currently offlineFlyboyOz From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 1994 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10278 times:



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 1):
I remember those days when QF123 was a 767-300 service SYD-SIN-BOM! I was on that flight a few times.

Hmmm... But my cousin flew QF123 to HKG. It used to fly from SYD-SIN-HKG-SIN-SYD at that time by using a B763ER. I could be wrong and please confirm it.



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User currently offlineMendaero From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10187 times:



Quoting EK413 (Thread starter):
The aircraft is configured in 2 class 36J199Y... I believe the aircraft has 201 seats in Y/C but these are reserved as a crew rest area...

One J class seat is also reserved for tech crew. they will be utilizing 1A and 1B empty, if there is room otherwise 1E will be used for tech crew. This is due to only one tech crew rest facility fitted, but two crews operating on SYD-BOM.

The cabin crew are not very happy about no cabin crew beds on such a long flight and some plan on going sick if scheduled this trip.

BTW I think they have more than 2 seats for cabin crew 4?


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5869 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 10096 times:



Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 4):
But my cousin flew QF123 to HKG.

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10032 times:



Quoting Mendaero (Reply 5):
The cabin crew are not very happy about no cabin crew beds on such a long flight and some plan on going sick if scheduled this trip.

BTW I think they have more than 2 seats for cabin crew 4?

I can't blame the crew for calling sick on this particular flight...
I remember servicing the B743's QF123 when they first commenced services non-stop SYD-BOM-SYD (I believe tech stop in DRW on the return) the aircraft was a nightmare to service  vomit  and it turned around to operate to NRT as the QF021...

From what I seen on the specs. the aircraft has a configuration of 36J 201Y but being sold as 36J 199Y... Not sure where the remaining crew rest... Unless they take turns...?

EK413



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User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9865 times:

The aircraft is configured 36J199Y + 4 Cabin Crew Rest at the aft left. The Cabin Crew rest seats are configured with 40 inch pitch and are very comfortable (but of course nowhere near a flat bed).

Note that these Crew rest seats are not certified for take-off and landing and hence will never be sold for commercial/staff passengers.


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9831 times:
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Quoting Airbus A3XX (Reply 8):
The aircraft is configured 36J199Y + 4 Cabin Crew Rest at the aft left. The Cabin Crew rest seats are configured with 40 inch pitch and are very comfortable (but of course nowhere near a flat bed).

Doesn't the 332 have dedicated cabin crew rest areas (loft or underfloor) on offer, or did QF specifically rule those options (if they exist) out?


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User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9745 times:



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 1):
Ah... I remember those days when QF123 was a 767-300 service SYD-SIN-BOM! I was on that flight a few times.

I still remember the days when they operated SYD-BNE-SIN-BOM on a 747SP. circa 2001

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User currently offlineMtsubshe From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9699 times:

What is the flying time between Syd and Bombay

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2893 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9647 times:

@EK413

AFAIK, the 747-300 never made any technical stops, it was only the 333 that made these stops

Quoting Mtsubshe (Reply 11):
What is the flying time between Syd and Bombay

11-12 hours

Karan


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9626 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 3):
I wonder how popular this flight will be considering the recent on field events.. Haha

Let's see what happens at Perth and then we'll see if we still have diplomatic ties  Smile



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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3130 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9606 times:



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 3):
I wonder how popular this flight will be considering the recent on field events..

Those events will be forgotten as quickly as they came up.....there have been worse incidents on sports field.... smile 

A direct SYD-BOM flight is most welcome....what about the return journey....will that also be non-stop or will there be a halt enroute....?


User currently offlineMk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 9503 times:

Why doesn't QF serve DEL?? I am sure people would love to fly to SYD non-stop than take the Asian carriers and connect via their respective hubs? I am just wondering, cos they have service to BOM, will the DEL-SYD flight carry less traffic/cargo? Is that a reason for QF not looking into this service?


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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3339 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9322 times:



Quoting Karan69 (Reply 12):
@EK413

AFAIK, the 747-300 never made any technical stops, it was only the 333 that made these stops

Correct.
B743 operated non-stop both direction.
Tech stop DRW introduced when A333 commenced ops.


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5319 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 9277 times:



Quoting Mendaero (Reply 5):
The cabin crew are not very happy about no cabin crew beds on such a long flight and some plan on going sick if scheduled this trip.

I don't believe the 333 operating this route for the past year or 2 has crew rest either, so why would it be any different for them on a 332?


User currently offlineKLMD11L From New Zealand, joined Dec 2007, 123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9098 times:

Being the only airline offering SYD-BOM non-stop, QF must be doing rather good on this route, I wonder why Indian carriers never fly to Aussie?!


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 8210 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 6):
Quoting FlyboyOz (Reply 4):
But my cousin flew QF123 to HKG.

128

SYD-HKG QF127 HKG-SYD QF128... Big grin

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 12):
@EK413

AFAIK, the 747-300 never made any technical stops, it was only the 333 that made these stops



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 16):
Quoting Karan69 (Reply 12):
@EK413

AFAIK, the 747-300 never made any technical stops, it was only the 333 that made these stops

Correct.
B743 operated non-stop both direction.
Tech stop DRW introduced when A333 commenced ops.

Cheers, I wasnt 100% on the technical stop with B743 but was aware of the A333... The reason for this equipment swap  Wink

EK413



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User currently offlineVHXLR8 From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 500 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8004 times:



Quoting Airbus A3XX (Reply 8):
Note that these Crew rest seats are not certified for take-off and landing and hence will never be sold for commercial/staff passengers.

Crew rest seats are in fact certified for takeoff and landing. QF regularly sells them as pax seats on 763s when being used on domestic flights. Similarly, short domestic flights where dinner is served require 2 extra crew (on the 763GE), those extra crew sit in crew rest seats for takeoff and landing.

Quoting ANstar (Reply 17):
I don't believe the 333 operating this route for the past year or 2 has crew rest either, so why would it be any different for them on a 332?

I guess at least on the outbound sector, the stop in DRW broke the trip up. A 4 hour flight SYD-DRW and a 7ish hour flight DRW-BOM don't really require as much in the way of crew rest. As for the inbound sector, can't say really  Wink


User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7788 times:

That seems good news, I always thought having a direct India - Australia route was needed but what will happen to Singapore Airlines flight from Bombay - Singapore. I am told that the flights from India - Singapore on SQ there are no more than about 40 passengers disembarking at Singapore, the others are connecting. What will happen there?

User currently offlineMendaero From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7684 times:



Quoting ANstar (Reply 17):
I don't believe the 333 operating this route for the past year or 2 has crew rest either, so why would it be any different for them on a 332?

The 333 would have the same issue if it were to fly SYD-BOM non-stop.

IIRC the B743 on the SYD-BOM route when it was re-instated, had a large section of economy blocked out for cabin crew rest. This was until it was decided to re-activate the containerised crew rest facility on the B743 fleet.


User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7671 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 14):
A direct SYD-BOM flight is most welcome....what about the return journey....will that also be non-stop or will there be a halt enroute....?

QF123 SYD-BOM and QF124 BOM-SYD, will be non-stop in both directions with the A330-200 operating.



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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5319 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7616 times:



Quoting Mendaero (Reply 22):
The 333 would have the same issue if it were to fly SYD-BOM non-stop.

BOM-SYD is already non stop, so I don't really see the issue of having the same crew rest conditions for SYD-BOM now that it is going non stop. It seems like an over reaction from some QF crew. (If it is indeed true)


25 Peh : I was wondering how long it would take Qantas to launch this service. Practically everyone I know is on their way to India for either work or pleasure
26 EK413 : Umm, Qantas has already launched this service... The equipment on the route will change as of 1st of Feb 2008 to enable SYD-BOM-SYD non-stop elimanat
27 Miami1 : VHXLR8 - WRONG The four cabin crew rest seats on the QF332s are NOT certified for takeoff and landing due to the increase pitch. They are regular eco
28 Miami1 : Umm... The duty time for SYD-BOM is 14.5 hours. I do not think it is an overreaction of crew to expect better crew rest than the four standard econom
29 Post contains links AJ : The seat map at this link spells out the limitations of the crew rest seats: http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/seatMap332
30 Cricket : SQ doesn't care really bercause the connecting passengers go everywhere - US, China, Australia, Japan, Korea. So a few seats lost thanks to QF's non-
31 Post contains images Gr8Circle : AI used to fly to PER and SYD all through the 60's, 70's, 80's and well into the 90's.....I think they were doing a PER terminator flight some time i
32 ANstar : I think those 332's will be flying those routes for quite a while as QF are not due to receive their 787-9's until around 2010/11. And I'm sure they
33 Mendaero : The problem is not all crew get to bid. Meaning the MAM casuals end up with a disproportionate number of these kinds of flights, the only way they ca
34 Smi0006 : Hey Guys just new here so I thought Id ask one quick Q; I know that this is slightly off topic so please forgive me but I asked this else where but no
35 Nimish : Well - I agree in principal, except that there are numerous other such "few seats" that are being eaten away all the time: 1. 9W's services to SIN 2.
36 Post contains links and images Ryan h : Regarding the A330-300s They have on occasion diverted to ADL for fuel as I heard that BOM-SYD is pushing it range wise and sometimes they are short o
37 Viscount724 : AI also served NAN during part of that period due to Fiji's large Indian ethnic community (about 50% of the population).
38 Gigneil : It is right up against the published max pax range for the increased gross weight version... with reserves and wind I'm really surprised the 333s the
39 Airbus A3XX : [quote=VHXLR8,reply=20] Quoting Airbus A3XX (Reply 8): Note that these Crew rest seats are not certified for take-off and landing and hence will never
40 EK413 : The additional 2 A332's VH-EBE,EBF which JQ received in 2007 will be re-configured with SkyBed... In other words the aircraft have the stronger floor
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