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Ryanair 2008 - Next Possible Base Announcements  
User currently offlineTOMfly From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Didn't want to Hi-Jack the BOH post, so....


Ryanair announced 50 new routes before Christmas, especially highlighting new routes from UK airports to bases all over Europe, i.e. Edinburgh to Hahn, Bremen, Marseilles, Pisa and Alicante.

It was stated in the Scottish Press that Edinburgh was in the running (along with 4 other airports) to get 2 based aircraft sometime this year.

My question is, does anybody have any valid insight into the bases in the running for development. From this mornings announcement, it seems BOH may have taken 1 of the 2 bases (however with only 1 A/C maybe 3 new bases will be announced this year).

I know for a fact Edinburgh is in the running, due to the new owners of BAA decreasing landing fees (in relation to pax no.s delivered by FR).

I have no other information, but believe bases with potential in the next year are Paris Beauvais, Venice Treviso, as well as somewhere else in Spain, and maybe eastern Europe.

Would be great if we had some replies with information from bases (agents etc) and ryanair staff!


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User currently offlineKL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5141 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3329 times:

Well, EIN is still in the running. Last week 76% of the population surrounding the airport voted for an increase in flights, and a less strict opening hours policy.

We all know NRN got the base that was destined for EIN , but EIN at that time suffered from restricted weekend opening hours.

Now with a so called environment tax of 40 euro per flight effective from 1 july I can see NRN and other border airports getting more passengers and flights instead of EIN and GRQ.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

MXP: well-publicised plan based on filling some of the void created by AZ´s massive withdrawal. MXP didn´t accept FR´s offers, but FR´s door is still open, so says http://www.uk-airport-news.info/stansted-airport-news-090108a.htm.

OPO: was apparently to be announced this month, but it´s now postponed due to a disagreement between OPO and FR, as here http://jn.sapo.pt/2008/01/04/porto/s...orrida_para_gerir_o_aeroporto.html and here http://jn.sapo.pt/2008/01/03/porto/r...que_nao_pode_perder_dinheiro.html.

There are many places in Europe that will in the next few years become FR bases. Some of these will be long-standing rumours - there are always endless rumours - like BOH was before finally becoming a base.

There are almost too many possibilities. But of those, I´d like an Eastern European base this year, perhaps in Poland.



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User currently offlineEXTspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

Cheering for the underdog as always...

..go NQY!



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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2994 times:



Quoting KL911 (Reply 1):
We all know NRN got the base that was destined for EIN ,

That was never said. It was mentioned by Ryanair that aircraft no. 3 and 4 for the NRN-base were desinted for EIN, but we should not take every word of O'Leary for granted, these can as well be negotiation tactics.

Quoting KL911 (Reply 1):
but EIN at that time suffered from restricted weekend opening hours.

It still does. The EIN folks applauded too early. The new local agreement for revised weekend opening hours is still not finalized, there are still political hurdles.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
There are many places in Europe that will in the next few years become FR bases. Some of these will be long-standing rumours - there are always endless rumours - like BOH was before finally becoming a base.

Next to the busy non-base airports that are always mentioned (BVA, TSF, EIN, FKB), don't forget that quite many of the FR bases were not or hardly not in the network before becoming a base:

MAD: was announced first as a destination from DUB, but before the first flight operated the base was announced.
ALC: first flights announced in May, first flights operated in June, base announced in August
MRS: only had two flights in the FR network when the base was announced.
BRE: base from the day of the 1st flight
BHD: base from the day of the 1st flight

And on the other hand, on this forum, RIX, TSF and BVA are mentioned all the time but they still are not a base (yet).

For new bases, I think one needs to look to airports that have spare capacity - many of these Ryanair airports just don't have the capacity for a base. My guesses would be BSL, SXF, EDI or BLL.


User currently offlineTOMfly From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

I think the Ryanair model is changing slightly - look at MAD, not your typical FR out in the sticks airport will 2 gates and 4 stands. With terminal 4 came extra capacity that AENA had to fill - Ryanair moved in. Ryanair is trying to do the same in MXP - if they get their terms and conditions. How about BCN - I know GRO is huge for FR, but with the new terminal comes extra capacity and extra capacity could mean cheap rates for FR. I think GRO is too well established for this to be the case, but how about any other major EU airports - any capacity increases due this year or next?

Seems odd BVA hasn't got a base, theres plenty of room for 3/4 A/C to be parked, and no real LCC presence in Paris (U2 starting CDG and some A/C at ORY).Having flown through there a few times it seems to be a perfect candidate. Maybe the deal just isn't right!

Personally fingers crossed for EDI! Three new stands going in their, rumour has it for FR!



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User currently offlineSailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 285 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Id wish to see TMP increase flights! DOing very well here. Enjoy seeing the 737-8AS fly over my house... maybe a MUC, ZUR or ORY would work well.


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User currently offlineSpantax From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2873 times:



Quoting TOMfly (Reply 5):
How about BCN - I know GRO is huge for FR, but with the new terminal comes extra capacity and extra capacity could mean cheap rates for FR.

Well, I wish you are right, but this should mean dismantling the GRO (Gerona) base, which is big and rather important for FR. But moving to BCN would be a major electroshock for Spanish aviation and FR could gain a lot from this move because BCN is a kind of hub for many Spaniards and this would give Spanish passengers a lot of new possibilities. I wish this could become a reality in the future. Regards



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User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

They want to sort out their existing bases first before announcing anymore. ALC is a base yet they don't have a desk in the terminal. We are sick to death of most of FR travellers asking where their office is. The only place we can send them is to Swissport, who are only their handling agent, and they are getting sick of it too.


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User currently offlineTOMfly From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

In most small bases it's cheaper to use the agent rather than employ your own staff, Swissport should know that as part of their terms of contract. Anyway, regarding ALC didn't FR move in their after an expansion to the terminal was completed?


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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2659 times:



Quoting TOMfly (Reply 5):
How about BCN - I know GRO is huge for FR, but with the new terminal comes extra capacity and extra capacity could mean cheap rates for FR.

I definitely expect that easyJet will start a base at BCN for this very reason. Ryanair, maybe.

Quoting Spantax (Reply 7):
Well, I wish you are right, but this should mean dismantling the GRO (Gerona) base, which is big and rather important for FR.

They don't seem to bother to have 2 bases in the London. They don't seem to bother either to have 2 bases serving Milano. And they have indicated they wanted both EIN and NRN as a base. All these three airport pairs (LTN-STN, MXP-BGY, NRN-EIN) are closer to each other than BCN and GRO.

Quoting TOMfly (Reply 5):
Personally fingers crossed for EDI! Three new stands going in their, rumour has it for FR!

Did they build new stands?


User currently offlineHBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

I would bet on BUD!

HBDAN



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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2624 times:



Quoting TOMfly (Thread starter):

Whats going on with FKB ?! We need some new routes ! Specially MAD !

Any plans for new FKB routes ?

Constantin


User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2528 times:



Quoting TOMfly (Reply 9):
Anyway, regarding ALC didn't FR move in their after an expansion to the terminal was completed?

After the temporary T2 was created (or the hut as we call it), FR were operating from it. The new termianl is supposed to open next year, with T1 becoming T2.



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User currently offlineTOMfly From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2435 times:



Quoting Joost (Reply 10):
Did they build new stands?

Yes, they are in the process of finishing stands 29, 30 and 31, just at the end of the south east pier. All bus stands though, don't know how this will work with FR's quick 25 min turns however, as the meeting bus is usually the outbound bus, so no boarding early!

Quoting Joost (Reply 10):
I definitely expect that easyJet will start a base at BCN for this very reason. Ryanair, maybe

yeah I could see BCN working for FR in this way, the same way they want to make MXP work. BGY is as big as GRO and they plan to do the same there.



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User currently offlineDangould2000 From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 2005, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

My Money is on BHX,

they had DUB-BHX, then announced a 2nd route to SNN, now they've announced 3 new routes to GRO, MRS and PSA



fingers crossed!



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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4003 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

I am under the impression that new bases start smaller nowadays than a few years ago. While it was 3-4 aircraft a while ago, now it is often just 1-2. I think this highlights the fact that the most suitable airports for bases have long been in the network and Ryanair is finding it more difficult to find markets that have potential for a large, locally-based fleet. Hence also the move to look at "real" airports that were unthinkable a couple of years ago, such as MXP or MAD. They easily keep a larger fleet busy.

As for potential bases. given the size of the country and the current Ryanair presence, Germany is an underserved market. Problem of course is the relative lack of suitable airports near the most interesting markets (Munich, Berlin) and the strength of local LCCs in Germany.


User currently offlineJoeCattoli From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

FRL was somehow announced in the local press

Ryanair 4th Italian Base (by JoeCattoli Dec 14 2007 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4682 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

Maybe FMM? This would be FR's entry to the MUC market, which is still untouched.


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User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

I know KRK are really keen to be a polish Ryanair base.

give FR strategy of taking on the competition.. this would just about drive Sky Europe out of town (theyve nearly been beaten already).



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User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2084 times:



Quoting Vfw614 (Reply 16):
Problem of course is the relative lack of suitable airports near the most interesting markets (Munich, Berlin) and the strength of local LCCs in Germany.

With SXF pretty much becoming a U2 fortress and TXL being served by other LCC's , I wonder if any LCC ever had had a look into FNB and market it as *Berlin North* - even though it is quite some distance to drive from Berlin ...
-HT



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User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1951 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 20):
With SXF pretty much becoming a U2 fortress

No different than LTN, BRS and LPL, which all have been become Ryanair bases. For SXF, it would not be too strange to spread the risk over more carriers.


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