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Crazy Shot Dc-9 Takeoff  
User currently offlinePIAflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2007, 150 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 20638 times:

i do not know if this is fake or not but this takeoff is crazy!  crazy 

http://www.airplanephotozone.com/photos.php?id=9998

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User currently offlineSpencerII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 20634 times:

the date of the photo is definitely wrong.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 20607 times:



Quoting PIAflyer (Thread starter):
i do not know if this is fake or not but this takeoff is crazy!

It's crazy because it -is- a fake...  Wink An obvious Photoshop job...


User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20400 times:

LOL

The a/c is not in proportion to the rest of the photo and the shadowing looks wrong, and technically you should see the water reflect on the nose area of the a/c.....



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20354 times:



Quoting SpencerII (Reply 1):
the date of the photo is definitely wrong

Why would that be wrong.......???



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20320 times:



Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 3):
The a/c is not in proportion to the rest of the photo and the shadowing looks wrong, and technically you should see the water reflect on the nose area of the a/c.....

...not to mention jet exhaust at takeoff thrust that close to the ground would be kicking up one hell of a sandstorm, which it's not...


User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20321 times:

Unless the plane just shot out from underground, the image is a fake.  Wink

User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5647 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20144 times:



Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 3):
technically you should see the water reflect on the nose area of the a/c.....

... and I see grass and a paved runway!



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4815 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20069 times:
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You know, looking at other photos from the same photographer, I would wonder why they would randomly throw in a fake from SXM. He seems to be rather established there...if they are all his that is.

Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 3):
and technically you should see the water reflect on the nose area of the a/c.....



Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 7):
and I see grass and a paved runway!

Well, if the photo is real (IF) the aircraft is still on the airport side of the fence. Therefore, grass and paved runway would be reflected, not the water.



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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4815 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 20006 times:
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Well, it appears the photo has been removed.


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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19992 times:

image removed. what was it anyways?

User currently offlineDL767captain From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19994 times:

i guess the photo is fake because wen i click the link it says the photo has been removed, does anyone have the picture still?

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19965 times:



Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 9):
Well, it appears the photo has been removed.

Busted!  Wink


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7546 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19774 times:

Its still coming up for me.


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User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19763 times:

its back.

see the comment:

Quote:
January 10th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

We learned about some disagreements about this photo earlier this evening. To all you nay-sayers, the validity of this photo has been confirmed with proof from the photographer.

Dan
APZ Team



you guys saying the photo is a fake because the exhaust should be kicking up sand, and the reflection is wrong, i think you are wrong.

I don't think the plane has cleared the fence yet. Look at where the people are looking, if you think this plane is past the fence, and over the beach, why would the people be looking underneath the plane, down the runway when there is a DC9 over their heads?

[Edited 2008-01-10 21:10:23]

User currently offlineBrenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1647 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19754 times:

It's coming back up -- with the comment that the photographer has "proof" that the photo is real. To me, it still looks all wrong ... FWIW, the photo is now appearing BELOW the comments.


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User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4815 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19691 times:
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Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 14):
I don't think the plane has cleared the fence yet.

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a.nutters are often too easily fooled!  Wink



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User currently offlineCeph From Singapore, joined Jun 2007, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19651 times:

I think its due to optical illusions

User currently offlineAZO From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 767 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19585 times:

Looks real to me, just an illusion. Wide angle maybe? I don't know much about photography, but look at where the people are looking. It clearly has not cleared the fence yet. Either way, its just an odd frame of reference, that makes for a pretty neat effect.


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User currently offlineSSTsomeday From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 1276 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19495 times:



Quoting Ceph (Reply 17):
I think its due to optical illusions

Yes. I think the photo is real.

I believe it is shot with a telephoto lens, and shot from far away. This has the effect of putting the entire picture in focus, even though the people in the foreground are significantly closer to the camera than the A/C, which is also miles closer than the hills in the background. Also, it appears that the camera is low, probably on a boat in the water, which is why you can't see you can't see the runway. I see no technical reason which would indicate that the photo is a fake, considering the geography of St. Maarten Airport.

Because of the telephoto lens, everything is in focus, and that's why it looks like the A/C is where the people are. I believe it actually has rotated well short of the fence, probably many hundreds of feet before the numbers.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19450 times:

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if NW flies their D9's regularly into SXM? Does their schedule reflect/support that?


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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19416 times:

I'm sorry but something is just not right about it; the plane is too big, too clear, too something, and it just looks superimposed on the background. Is there any way to check some sort of FlightAware for SXM to see if a DC-9 for this carrier left during the day?...

I just don't buy it.

bb


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19405 times:

Something about that picture bothers me. I can see nothing to prove it is fake, but I am not certain it is real.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if NW flies their D9's regularly into SXM? Does their schedule reflect/support that?

I don't think NW flies into SXM at all.


User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 19381 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if NW flies their D9's regularly into SXM? Does their schedule reflect/support that?

its not a northwest plane though.


User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4897 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 19381 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 20):
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know if NW flies their D9's regularly into SXM? Does their schedule reflect/support that?

Ummm... NW pulled out of SXM years ago, and even then, they operated 752's on that route. DC-9's hang out in the Eastern Continental US.



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25 SpinalTap : I think part of the "optical illusion" of appearing fake is that the beach is actually quite a steady slope, although at first glance it looks flat a
26 Post contains images AirframeAS : Oops! The engine cowlings are red, the after underbelly is black with stripes and the cockpit windows have that 'football player' paint. My bad!!!
27 Flymad : So can anyone identify the airline?
28 Post contains links Brenintw : Aserca Airlines; specifically http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...gsearch=YV248T&distinct_entry=true
29 StealthZ : The caption states it is an Aserca Airlines DC-9.. oh and they don't fly to SXM either, well not scheduled services anyway.
30 Silver1SWA : Exactly what I was thinking.
31 Sandyb123 : Ever noticed the number of A.net replica sites?
32 AERoc : If i had to quess I would say that the pic of this plane is still on the ground considering that the landing lights and taxi lights are not on. correc
33 Graphic : Clearly none of you armchair photographers have any idea of the concept of zoom compression.
34 Post contains images KLM772ER : If the plane is still on the ground, how would you be able to shoot that angle? (unless the plane is standing on some pillars quite impossible...) I
35 Post contains images Silver1SWA : Huh? First of all, Nav and Landing lights are on. Second...HUH?? Are you saying this is a picture of a plane on the ground super-imposed on the SXM b
36 StealthZ : Because I am bored tonight I have paid more attention to this than I normally would, Close study of the photo shows reflections of what appears to be
37 Post contains images RobK : Exactly my thoughts. The proportions just aren't right. If it were a 747 or something of that size then I could believe it but DC9s are tiny in compa
38 Post contains images Macc : Its a fake, dudes, that water cant be so bright blue!!!! damn, what am I doing here in VIE! that take off is real, but the water,... lucky bastards...
39 Post contains links Rcijntje : I am the photographer in question ! ! For those that have their doubts ..... Photo was taken off my boat in Maho Bay using my D200 with a 18-135 ! If
40 StealthZ : Ah Robby, The sequence you linked is password protected Cheers
41 Rcijntje : the password is aserca (lowercase) Robby
42 Post contains images RobK : Yep, definitely a fake.. R
43 Post contains images Silver1SWA : No, the proportions are right. It's an optical illusion. Your eyes are just easily fooled. Robert, thanks for trying to set things straight around he
44 Acheron : Here you can see a video of Aserca's blue DC-9 landing in SXM. Its seasonal, If I'm not mistaken.
45 Post contains images Rcijntje : I will have another T-Punch while the hits and views are climbing ! Cheers ! Robby
46 Oly720man : hard life you have out there......
47 Post contains links VS773ER : Robby, http://www.airplanephotozone.com/photos.php?id=9711 just how long have AF been sending/operating A320's in SXM??? That's a rare pic too isn't
48 Freckles : Is that not a feeder service from MIA? Don't AF and IB have two or three A32x based there? Cheers
49 Rcijntje : AF is using the 320 for regional services to St.Maarten, Haiti, Miami and French Guyanna out of Guadeloupe and Martinique since the end of November 20
50 AF1624 : AF actually DOES operate two A320's out there, due to the proximity of the French Carribeans ahhaha ;o)) You tried, really... That picture is real, I
51 LO231 : They operate 320's from MIA as an extension of their CDG-MIA flight, I think they have a few A/C based in MIA for these routes... However I don't kno
52 KLM772ER : I wish I would have such a live! Living in a paradise of an island, such an airport in the neighbourhood, sun, and spotting from my own boat! What gr
53 VS773ER : It was worth a go! I stood on that beech just before Christmas, IF the image is real, I wish I had been there. The DC9 must have been riding the yell
54 SBBRTech : Wow, very cool shot. But nothing too unexpected for SXM. Pics from that paradise airport usually look somewhat fantastic so often they are taken for f
55 VS773ER : so true, I went AA from LHR and spent the equal amount of time at MIA. Worst organisation of an airport i've ever experienced.
56 Sankaps : I've been a long-time lurker (though I am a regular poster on FlyerTalk), but this thread has me scratching my head for one reason: I was at SXM in Ju
57 Post contains images Scbriml : I thought I'd read all the posts, but I seemed to have missed the apologies from all those claiming the photo was a fake.
58 AF1624 : Well I think the photo is real. Just my two cents.
59 Oly720man : The put new sand on it after the other stuff gets washed away. You can probably go through the db and see when it happens.
60 BuyantUkhaa : Great sequence! You seem to have some dust spots though in the thumbnails, or are those water drops?
61 LO231 : Of course I meant "if they have a direct CDG-SXM flight...." I was there too and I remember the rocks being far more to the left, hence they're not i
62 Honza : Don't know who's busted...I think you did yourself! Have some more time and watch the picture carefully before you write some "would-be clever" state
63 MD80fanatic : Guys and Gals, It is REAL for God's sake. The photo was shot with a long lens off of a boat. Everything looks like it's in the same physical plane (no
64 Luisde8cd : Aserca flies charters during holiday season to SXM. It perfectely makes sense that the DC9 was there on Jan 7th as it was probably there picking up pa
65 Post contains images Rcijntje : ..... and about the sand .... During the huricane season (June thru Nov) the sea takes away the sand ..... After the hurricane season (December .....)
66 Rara : Good point. I think people have been fooled a lot in the past by image manipulation, so that they're now tending to cry "fake" at whatever seems out
67 Post contains images Dreamflight : Cool shot Robby. Without any doubt, I can say that I'm 100% sure that you took this picture. It's time that some guys of this forum take a look a your
68 Scbriml : It certainly is real. However, I'm not sure how many photographers would call an 18-135mm a "long" lens.
69 BAW716 : Assuming the photo is real...it would seem that the bird is at or near (or over) MTOW for the runway. At SXM, there is NO margin for error, either on
70 Irobertson : Yeah, I think we ought to apologize and congratulate this guy. Too much speculation in photography nowadays with computers and digital manipulation; i
71 QantasHeavy : Cool shot. That's real... sorry conspiracy theorists. A lot of times photos can produce that unusual 3D effect with mixed depth perception. That happe
72 Jcf5002 : I agree Amen to that! People are so inclined to jump the gun and assume a fake right off the bat because "they know better." Its great to see that wh
73 BOACVC10 : Robert, can you confirm if the beach is actually on the slope of an artificial embankment, and the runway is at a level that is about 10-15' below th
74 Post contains images Iwok : It all depends on where the plane is relative to the runway and the reflection angle from the point of picture to aircraft to the ground. I'm sure th
75 Post contains images LO231 : Or because they're so bloody jealous that they didn't take that picture Regards, LO231
76 Post contains images Spacecadet : I'm always amazed that in this day and age of Photoshop and everything else, people are still so easily fooled by a simple, low-tech telephoto lens.
77 Sailas : i Still dont buy it... look at the end of the bottom of the plane....would be showing the piano keys.... and normally its the 16mm lenses which make t
78 Post contains links and images OPNLguy : Well, here's mine.... View Large View MediumPhoto © Ward Callens If that's a reflection of the piano keys on the left side of the fuselage, it l
79 PA110 : Where are those apologies, boys?
80 Irobertson : I think if Mr. Punctuation read earlier, there's a response that indicates that this plane didn't start from the other end; it started part way up th
81 Post contains images KLM772ER : Have you ever photographed with a focallength less than 20mm??? the effect you get is a complete different than the one were are here talking about..
82 Post contains images Jcf5002 : I'm thinking you're closer to the truth than I was. I am one of those who is jealous, but I believe that its a real photo. People need to lighten up
83 TrnsWrld : Wow some of you guys are clueless that say the photo is fake. The friggin dude that took the photo posted on this thread for gods sake to!!!! I know a
84 Toni_ : Wow... That's all I can come up with too. And not because of the brilliant photo. I opened this thread. "Crazy dc-9 takeoff" it read. And it was exac
85 Silver1SWA : It was removed temporarily until validity was confirmed by the photographer. There it is folks! Proof of the lunacy that takes place on this website.
86 ExL10Mktg : I don't know where all the photographers on this site are, but this looks to me to be nothing more unusual than the foreshortening of perspective typi
87 MKE22 : SXM has some pretty crazy takeoffs and landings, and that is where this is from. It is most likely real. I know this seems pretty hard to believe, but
88 Post contains links and images BuyantUkhaa : Similar to the discussion that this View Large View MediumPhoto © Daniel Werner picture provoked.
89 Apuneger : Oh man, this must be the funniest thread of the year so far... It's just a nice and unusual photo of a Mad Dog taking off from SXM, nothing more, noth
90 MD80fanatic : Someone mentioned piano keys, or the lack thereof. Guess what......the DC-9 hasn't crossed them yet in that photo. In fact if that plane became airbo
91 Post contains images Jetblueguy22 : I do. Not really. I just pay attention to this site. The best one Blue P.S. my subscription is up in June
92 Sankaps : Wow... who would have known? That would explain the different in the surf too. Great shots, mate. Guess I have to head back to SXM at a different tim
93 Post contains images KLM772ER : There were some posting in here, saying from the beginning that this shot is not fake.. They were simply not saying: Hey I am a photographer, so trus
94 Post contains images SOBHI51 : Hello Robby I have a suggestion. Why don't you take few of us on your boat so we can watch similar take off's? Don't invite Sailas,he is so stubborn,p
95 SANFan : OK, I'll give in and accept the photo as real. I've taken tons of photos myself over the years, using an OM1, then an OM2, with about 4 different lens
96 Post contains images Rcijntje : All Apologies accepted ! I will sharpen up my editing skills and see if the screeners at A.NET want to add another photo to my other 26 in the DB. Rob
97 Post contains images David L : Oh, I love these threads! Post an unusual picture or video and you're guaranteed a procession of "image experts" declaring that it's so "obviously" a
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