Bridogger6 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 710 posts, RR: 11 Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12148 times:
Well this is something I got confirmed from management in Phoenix, but no one knows or will say what the routes are! Anyone have any ideas or speculation?
I am guessing CLT-SLC will be one... as east metal already runs a SLC-PHX flight... what else might we see?
Krsw757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11986 times:
I would love to see them do a route out west from RSW.
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11945 times:
PVD is probably the largest US station without any westbound service. PVD-PHX would be nice.
Experience is what you get when what you thought would work out didn't!
LoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3641 posts, RR: 38 Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11932 times:
Hopefully, one will be AUS-CLT. Right now the only US flights out of AUS are to PHX and LAS. Back in September of 2001 (Sept 4) the airport issued a press release stating that US would operate three nonstops AUS-CLT flights that were slated to begin in December, 2001.
SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 4720 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11802 times:
I got a wild one here: SAN-HNL. No, I'm serious. There were rumors in 2006 I think (maybe 2005?) that US was going to stop flying LAS-Hawaii and SAN was possibly going to become the next mainland terminus. (I'll try to find something in the archives here on A.net.)
SAN-HNL currently has 1x daily HA flight plus a UA that flies Sat only for a few months, then stops for a while, then flies again for a few weeks... "Seasonal" doesn't really even describe it and the talk is that it's primarily for Pleasant's use anyway. SAN should easily be able to support at least one more daily flight to HNL; heck there are 2x daily trips to OGG out of Lindbergh! Additional HNL service is a priority goal of the SDIA folks.
There is a feeling amongst some of us in San Diego -- whether it's hope or assumption or based on things that were actually said or a combination of all of these -- that US would at some point target SAN as a focus city. That may have all evaporated. Or perhaps that time has arrived?
Here's hoping that something new is coming to Lindbergh on US, maybe from the west!
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1366 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11483 times:
A daily PBI-PHX rt would be nice, the demand is certainly there...The off again ON again PBI-LAS flight has done very well since it started back up on December 20th.
A330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 47 Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11457 times:
CLT-EYW starts in March on Saturdays, but I don't know if that's one of the three.
I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11431 times:
PHX-MSY would be a great addition, and would give MSY some much needed extra capacity to the West coast. Heck, i'd take a CR9 running the route if need be. I don't expect LAS-MSY to come back due to the planned drawback of some of the LAS service.
Floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1985 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11330 times:
Oooooh, maybe it's the long awaited return of PHX-BIL I know, not likely, but I can always dream. With fuel prices as high as they are, I think PHX-BIL is still a ways off.
PVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3374 posts, RR: 18 Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11330 times:
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 4): PVD is probably the largest US station without any westbound service. PVD-PHX would be nice.
yes maybe, but with fuel where it is, this wish list item might have to wait a year or two - or more
it will, however stay on the wish list (and heck, WN did trim down to 1X daily, afternoon departure, so maybe there is room for US in the future).
I think US should combine the 1 big red-eye bank in LAS into the PHX hub, therefore utilizing east coast RON aircraft via PHX overnight to increase flying without adding aircraft. Select p2p LAS could stay based on financial performance of each flight.
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6626 posts, RR: 19 Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11261 times:
Quoting A330323X (Reply 9): CLT-EYW starts in March on Saturdays, but I don't know if that's one of the three.
Ohhh.. now THAT is a smart move.. they need to make it daily on the E70....
Pbiflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 185 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11213 times:
Quoting John (Reply 8): A daily PBI-PHX rt would be nice, the demand is certainly there
AlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11142 times:
The biggest U.S. metro area without any non-stop service to PHX on any airline is Hampton Roads, Virginia. ORF-PHX would be nice to see, although when compared to other metro areas of that size, the usual situation for PHX is having a once-daily non-stop on WN, not US.
DLCnxgptjax From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 352 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11109 times:
I'll go ahead and throw this one out there for S***s and Giggles. What about CLT-GPT? It's the only airport in the region without US service. Yes, I know it's highly unlikely, especially with the new Skybus route to GSO starting soon.
M992910 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 11 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11064 times:
What about connecting AUS and SAT to CLT? And maybe even PHL? Two glaring holes in the US network!
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 10990 times:
Quoting Bridogger6 (Thread starter): I am guessing CLT-SLC will be one... as east metal already runs a SLC-PHX flight... what else might we see?
I'm hoping for a daylight flight to LAS from SLC, or even CLT/PHL-SLC...bring in the 321s!
Quoting SANFan (Reply 6): Here's hoping that something new is coming to Lindbergh on US, maybe from the west!
That would be nice, perhaps build upon what PSA had 25 years ago?
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RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 10770 times:
Rockinflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10674 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 6):
There is a feeling amongst some of us in San Diego -- whether it's hope or assumption or based on things that were actually said or a combination of all of these -- that US would at some point target SAN as a focus city. That may have all evaporated. Or perhaps that time has arrived?
Here's hoping that something new is coming to Lindbergh on US, maybe from the west!
This is certainly a great opportunity for US and SAN! It could definitely be supported. It would also be great if US would return to the west coast ala PSA. They completely cannibalized PSA and left some gaping holes when they took over. (two routes that sorely need competition are BUR/ONT-SFO)
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4901 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10640 times:
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 22): PHX-PVD
PHX-RIC (would be their only westbound service outside of DFW, so it might do OK) Maybe GSP
Will fuel prices stop those two? Would be against the recent trend with G4/AirTran cutting back longer routes
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25 MSYPI7185: This is my hope as well. HP used to have 2 flts/day and they did very well. It is still a mystery why they have not returned ,but my fingers are cros
27 Warreng24: Think there's any possiblity of a MHT-PHX? I hear that WN's yields and loads have been high on their MHT-PHX n/s.
28 WesternA318: I wonder how SAN-OAK, SAN-SMF, or SAN-SEA/PDX/YVR would do for US?
29 JRDC930: I pity the new cities that get this US service, they get the option of flying on the worst customer rated airline in the U.S...
30 WesternA318: I'd rather fly on HP, errrm...US than B6 or F9 any day...
31 JRDC930: HP is another story...if any semblance of that airline were still alive in US...
32 Rockinflyer: I think WN has it covered pretty well to OAK and SMF from SAN. Its the satellite airports around L.A. that are lacking competition and experiencing r
33 Scoobyd75: I have heard rumors of SAT I hope they fly from PHL. Maybe PHL-SLC Compete a little with DL on this route.
34 PiedmontINT: How about MCI-LAS? The one hub city missing from MCI on US and would be an alternative to WN, the only carrier that flys nonstop there from MCI. The m
35 Joeljack: WN is cutting a flight from this route from 6 to 5 so the yields must not be there. Why PHL-DSM over OMA-PHL or CLT? OMA-PHL average fare is 341.00 w
36 MKE22: PNS-DCA! Washington D.C. is one of PNS' top 3 markets travelers travel to, and they have no non-stop service. Plus this was already proposed earlier.
37 ScottB: They are indeed, but this is largely in markets with over 10 daily round-trips (only three cities with fewer round-trips are losing LAS flights, one
38 BP1: My 2 cents is a SJC-PHL or SJC-CLT flight to connect the high yielding traffic out of that city. Regards, BP1
40 MKE22: I know you are from MSY and think you are just wishing this, but it isn't out of the question. Even if you aren't just wishing it, I think it could h
42 Bicoastal: It was called PSA. US Air then bought it, dismantled it, shipped it east, grabbed its ankles for Southwest...and these routes will never be flown by
43 Super80DFW: I wish we would see OKC-CLT or OKC-PHL on an E170.
44 UAL747: Would really like to see OKC-PHL or OKC-CLT. UAL
45 MOBflyer: While PNS is more likely to get the service due to the sheer volume of passengers (many of which drive from MOB) - MOB -DCA would almost definitely m
46 Malaysia: I think LAS-STL might be an okay route on top of MCI
47 Airbusaddict: If only PHX or LAS-FSD service could be on a 1x CR9. People are filling Allegiants MD-80's by the dozens. They added another flight to the schedule so
48 Steeler83: I thought US already served OKC-CLT, but I think it's only out to either LAS or PHX. They need a route to one of the two largest hubs for US. I am ra
49 MSYtristar: I sure hope you're right. It's a pretty obvious gap (along with AUS/SAT to CLT/PHL) in the US route system, and WN has cut capacity in the market. If
50 SANFan: Ah, and we hear from the diplomat! (Lordy I hope you never go into politics, Bi'. ) We haven't heard from you yet over on PAL Applies For Manila-Vanc
51 Frntman: Here's a stab in the dark.... PHL-ANC (seasonal) PHL-SJC PHL-OKC PHX-MSY PHL-SAT PHL-SLC PHL-YVR PHL-YYC
52 MCOflyer: Would require a 767ER and right now, they do not have any to free up. Maybe Etops1 can shed some light on this. Hunter
53 CALeeIII: Hey, I'll add to the wish list: BHM-PHX BHM-LAS Nothing like competing with WN! ha.
54 Bicoastal: Never. I tell people what they don't want to, but need to hear. I don't lie, nor do I have my hand in your pockets! I'd never make it in politics!
55 WesternA318: True, but this is a different US Airways, and SAN is one of the more attractive options to them for another west coast mini-focus city. That's right,
56 Mainliner: I'll throw my hat into the ring...how about SNA-CLT?
57 PVD757: here are a bunch of currently unserved markets US might be looking at: MLB-CLT AUS-CLT SAT-CLT ABQ-CLT or PHL ORF-PHX JAX-PHX RSW-PHX or LAS PBI-PHX O
58 MSYtristar: I can see a few of those being added.
59 HPAEAA: Lots of good suggestions, but I bet it's somthing in the east... CLE is loosing LAS, and soon PHX... layoffs are coming down... hope other cities are
60 Super80DFW: faremeasure.com says: 103 daily OKC-PHL pax; possible A319 to compensate for direct and connecting traffic 93 daily TUL-PHL pax; E190 48 daily OKC-CLT
61 SANFan: As promised (and for the benefit of my friend, Bicoastal)... Here is a link to the route map of the combined US/HP merger: ...sorry if this isn't wor
62 MKE22: You know, I thought that Mobile/Pensacola airport idea that got shut down was a good idea, but it didn't happen. O well. I don't think it's just abou
63 ABQ747: US used to fly PIT-ABQ with B737-400s a few years back. That would be nice if they started PHL-ABQ. An E-170 would be perfect for this route.
64 Whappeh: Long flight for an E-170? Maybe a 190 could do the job.
65 HPRamper: US Corporate has already stated that CLT-PDX had far more profit potential than CLT-SLC, and it did in fact perform quite well load-wise. I would the
66 SANFan: Aw, come on 'Ramper, you can't just take it back -- what do you think this is, KMart the week after Christmas? OK then, I guess it's all about spokes
67 Bicoastal: Ok, because SANFan has a good sense of humor and seems like a good guy, I won't say "I told you so."
68 UAL747: We already have PHX service with US in OKC, not sure about TUL. But US is the only major carrier that we do not have a direct non-stop route to their
69 MKE22: Quoting HPRamper (Reply 65): I think OKC and TUL will see service to PHX before either PHL or CLT. In this case, with more aircraft OKC would likely g
70 PVD757: do we know when the new routes will be announced? when they might be loaded into the schedules???
71 Steeler83: I am sure this has been posted before, But I have just looked at US' route map, and AUS doesn't have any service to CLT or PHL. TUL doesn't have any U
72 MAH4546: If it's true that they are announcing new routes, chances are they are already bookable.
73 RL757PVD: Though this is US were talking about here, so its one of two things 1) they loaded them already 2) they will announce them, load the schedules but fo
74 M180up: What about PIT - TUL then ? hehe.. no really, between PHL and CLT I think it is more likely for CLT to get a route.
75 HPRamper: OKC however only sees regional service, and I think it won't be long until mainline appears on the route. There is no TUL yet. And I wouldn't call PH
76 M180up: PHL is the Europe gateway, but for domestic and caribbean CLT is still the biggest hub.
77 Ouboy79: OKC has been around for awhile...it was CR9s then down to CRJs now back to CR9s. I doubt we'll see any mainline service here unless it is on the 190s
78 PVD757: thats why I've been scouring the future schedules. But without any hint and/or knowing if there really are new routes and when, it's like a needle in
79 Steeler83: Haha, good one. I just can't get over how little presence US has in Texas and the southern plains. Some cities either have no US service at all, or t
80 LoneStarMike: Not with nonstop service, though. At least not yet. On March 17, AUS gets a WN n/s flight to PHL. SAT-PHL will still be via a connection or through s
81 AirTranTUS: Here's a stab in the dark: PHX-LHR/FRA.
82 USAirALB: cant happen, US doesnt have sufficent aircraft for this route yet(ie A332)
83 Lexy: I know this won't happen but I would love to see them do a BNA-PHX turn. That would be nice to see!
84 HPRamper: I was wondering if that would come back, nobody has said anything about it here. Good to know as that made flights to the east very convenient. It wo
85 Lexy: Yeah WN has a handfull a day to PHX. It's more wishful thinking on my part I suppose. The LAS flight was canceled, but it was a redeye that made litt
86 Ca2ohHP: I hate to say it, but with domestic capacity slated to be cut around 4% in 2008 I'm willing to bet all of these routes will be served with Express ai
87 Chugach: Love to see it, but not likely. CO gave EWR-ANC a try for a few years; the planes were packed but the yields were terrible. Can't imagine PHL-ANC wou
88 Chugach: 752 can do it easily. Not that they would likely have any free 752's, anyway.
89 Vega: Really ?? - what an observation. The MAIN reasons PHL seems like it is busier than CLT - is because it is. First, PHL has over 10M more annual O&D th
90 MOBflyer: Me too. It's a shame politics and state pride got so involved. They could have formed an airport-only equivalent of the Port Authority of New York/Ne
91 Steeler83: SHeesh, PIT would look like LaGuardia if that happened to CLT! I do agree that PHL is more vital to US than CLT, and I am thinking that some new rout
92 HPRamper: I wasn't really talking about the airport as a whole, rather the status of US in particular at that airport. I was defining "main" as busiest in term
93 Smed63: SAT-PHL non stop starts on the same day as AUS-PHL: SAT-PHL WN 1035 2:45 - 7:25 p.m. PHL-SAT WN 946 11:15 a.m. - 2:15 p.m.
94 LoneStarMike: I stand corrected. Thanks. (Don't know how I missed that one.) LoneStarMike
95 ScottB: The US Airways domestic mainline fleet isn't scheduled to grow for the next several years; the deliveries of E190's and new A320-family aircraft are
96 PHXmd80: Mainline at CLT and PHX is bigger then PHL: http://www.usairways.com/common/reso...pressroom/factsheets/factsheet.pdf This is the hub fact sheet from
97 Steeler83: Yeah, it certainly looks that way to me as well. I guess it's a full focus city, and even a larger one than PIT is right now I would think... I still
98 HPRamper: Interesting, as the US Airways magazine route map still lists LAS as a hub. PIT is actually the least busy of the focus cities now. DCA, BOS and LGA
99 LoneStarMike: The US Airways route map on their website still shows LAS as a hub, too. LoneStarMike
100 Spoke2Spoke: Oh there is plenty of HP alive and well in the new US. That may be just what the organization needs. I'm not so sure. I would assume that PHL generat
102 HPAEAA: LAS is a focus city since the merger... CLT, PHL, PHX are the hubs... BOS, LGA, LAS, are the focus cities.. origionaly PIT was too...dont't know what
103 Steeler83: Yeah, that's what I figured, US claims they are getting smacked by the LCCs there and I guess somewhat by the other airlines. They're all doing fine.
104 HPRamper: Don't forget DCA as a focus city as well. LAS I feel still falls in that gray area between hub and focus city, regardless of its designation by the a
105 Malaysia: Ironically they changed SFO to Hub/Focus city status??? I mean for recruiting they are hiring a manager at SFO and its a Hub grade instead of a field
106 Etops1: it will be express service out of clt. not mainline service.
107 Joeljack: When will the announcement be made? My guesses are now AUS-CLT SAT-CLT OMA-CLT
108 AirCop: Perhaps its due to all the pacific code-share with UA at SFO? Just a wild guess.
109 Etops1: no texas cities. the announcement will be made at the end of the week. we use to fly into one of the cities . which is very close to a majpr city we f
110 MSYtristar: The selfish part of me says "man that'd be a huge letdown!" But the realistic part of me sort of knew it would turn out that way. Still hoping for PH
113 HPRamper: SFO is not a hub or focus or anything near it, just a fairly busy field station for US. We do have a ton of gates though, more than we need in my opi
115 MSYtristar: If so that'd be a nice win for BTR, especially if it gets picked over a city like AUS/SAT.
116 Joeljack: Are they all new cities and not just new routes?
117 RL757PVD: Could also be CSG, which is desperately in need of a 2nd airline and underserved MSA of 250,000 people, with 4,000 new jobs this year and a 5 year pr
118 RL757PVD: Ill go with 3 of these: MLB CSG BTV BTR ABQ VPS
119 Etops1: Ill go with 3 of these: MLB CSG BTV BTR ABQ VPS you got 1 out of all those right. i am not sure what vps or csg are though .
120 RL757PVD: VPS = Fort Walton Beach (Eglin) CSG = Columbus, GA which had US express service steady up till 9/11 itd be a good candidate for 3x DH8
121 PVD757: so that basically means those 2 aren't any of the 3. I like MLB's chances (city near a major city they fly into south of CLT = MCO?) could be one of
122 MSYtristar: Well, either BTR or MLB. But I think BTR would have more year-round business demand, so I'll go with BTR. I know that airport has been marketing itse
123 RL757PVD: That means BTR CSG or MLB is one of them
124 PVD757: and again, since etops didn't even know where CSG was, its reasonalbe to drop that off the list. so 1 of them is either BTR or MLB no texas no extreme
125 Malaysia: I think it was cause the company started feeling that it was too expensive for anyone and they modified it to a Hub level job to make up for the pay
126 Joeljack: Great analysis. Adding to this, it was mentioned no texas responding to the AUS, SAT, OMA to CLT post but no mention of not OMA. Would this mean that
127 Philly65: Any news on this, or is this just another rumor...? I have no knowledge nor insight, but knowing the network, here are my guesses: PHL-SLC ABQ-CLT SJC
128 M180up: I dont think they have capable equipment right now, but not sure, could anyone provide with some light in the matter?
129 HPRamper: Right now we don't. It wouldn't be a very high demand flight, in my opinion, as most Hawaii traffic comes from the western half of the country. For t
130 Flyingcat: OK these are the routes CLT to: PFN VPS GPT All are former stations and to be served with 50 seat CRJs 3x daily except for GPT which will be 2x on one
131 MSYtristar: Wow! Big expansion for the Gulf Coast!
132 RL757PVD: I didnt hear about PFN... i heard MLB
133 Etops1: i was told mlb vps and gpt by someone very high up . nothing about pfn. we will just have to see.
134 Joeljack: So all new cities. Does anyone know about connecting the dots? CLT-AUS, SAT, OMA...PHX-MSY etc. This year? 2009? 2010? NEVER? These are long over due!
135 All4BWI: TaxiwayEcho.com predicts that CLT-AUS and CLT-OMA will start up sooner rather than later
136 Flyingcat: I'm looking at OAG right now and there is nothing about MLB. Only VPS GPT and PFN. There is some service from AGS to PHL and LGA. I am assuming this
137 RL757PVD: what OAG source? date? Im using http://timetables.oag.com/clt and im seeing nothing for may or june
138 DLCnxgptjax: Oh wow! I through GPT out there just for fun in reply 16. I didn't really think they'd be coming to town.
139 Flyingcat: It is not showing in the public demo, but it has been sent out on the subscriber product.
140 A330323X: It runs every year. It's for the Masters.
141 Joeljack: This is an interesting site. Had not heard about it yet. Doesn't say where it gets the information from. Probably just some expert making predictions
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