VH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 796 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1820 times:
Just wondering what your thoughts are on whether the newest versions of the A340 family will be as successfull as their smaller sister, the A340-300(E)? I know they have scored a few orders (mostly it seems for the -500), but will they enjoy the success of the -300? My thoughts are, the -500 will do better because of its greater range! Will it replace some B747's, seems like the ideal aircraft to replace the B747SP? Just my thoughts!
Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1698 times:
I am curious as to whether hyper-long flights like that will be popular with travellers. Sitting in a seat for 18-20 hours would be bad enough in First or Business Classes, but in Economy? I'd be ready to kill towards the end of that trip, and I am not unfamiliar with long flights.
For trips like that, they may well need specially designed economy classes, with more space. Otherwise people may end up preferring to fly on a plane which makes a stopover, just for the chance to stretch their legs for an hour or two.
Joni From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1671 times:
I think 345 can be configured in a very roomy layout and kill two lizards with one stone - the passengers don't do berserk and the smaller payload allows for greater range. IIRC Singapore, for instance, plans to have only about 200 passengers on their 345's. (or was that 240? i forget)
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1643 times:
In the March 2001 issue of the magazine AIRWAYS, there is an excellent picture of the rollout of the new RR Trent 556 powered A340-600 at the Airbus factory in Toulouse. In deed this aircraft will be an excellent replacement for the 747-200 Classics.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7860 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1598 times:
Supposedly, Airbus was aiming the A340-600 as a 747-400 alternative. Only one problem: the 744 seats quite a bit more passengers than the A340-600.
Now, the A346 as a 747 "Classic" replacement, that's a very different story.
By the way, according to Flight International magazine, Airbus plans to have increased gross weight versions of the A346, which could mean that the A346 could have essentially the same range as the A340-500 but with the carrying capacity of the A346. That improved A346 could become VERY viable for a lot of airlines around the world that needs a long-range plane but will not buy the 747.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13722 posts, RR: 20 Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1592 times:
Although the A343E did meet SIA's requirements, they are not impressed and therefore me neither.
I must say I'm not really pleased with the A340 family at all. The ceiling is just too low. I'm not too tall myself if u no what i mean but it's too low.
You all know about SIA's A340 complaints so I won't repeat them
A345 - It's a good aircraft and very good in terms of range. It offers SIA non-stop from SIA - Canada, SFO / LAX. However I doubt it will sell well. I don't think BA are going to fly from LHR - Argentina non-stop are they?
A346- more seating lovely. Shame about the ceiling.
However I think SIA will accept the A345 more as the engines will be more powerful.
Gerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 33 Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1587 times:
Singapore_Air, I think you make a little confusion. The A343 Enhanced discussed in this topic isn't the A343E operated by Singapore air. In fact, the A343 Enganced doesn't have a designation yet and will enter intro service by early 2003.
Then, RayChuang wrote:
" By the way, according to Flight International magazine, Airbus plans to have increased gross weight versions of the A346, which could mean that the A346 could have essentially the same range as the A340-500 but with the carrying capacity of the A346. "
There would still be a considerable range gap between the A345 and the A346. An example: Emirates still plans to go for the A345 but is evaluating the new proposed A346 for flights as for example DXB-JFK.
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VH-BZF From Australia, joined Oct 1999, 796 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1558 times:
Hey do any of you know whether the new engines aboard the A345/6 will allow a higher/faster cruising speed at altitude? Currently the A343 is about mach .79/.80 some what slower than the B777 family! Boeing state this equates to nearly 30minutes on a route like Melbourne to Singapore where the two aircraft depart at the same time.
So with the new A345/6 does the airframe/engines allow for a higher cruise speed????
Appreciate your input!
Cheers - BZF
Ansett Australia - (was) One of the worlds great airlines!
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1552 times:
The RR Trent 500 series engines on the A340-600 are more powerful than the A340-500, they will have 56,000lbs thrust vs. 53,000lbs thrust on the A340-500. By the way, that is great news if an increased gross weight A340-600 will have the same range as the 500 model. I hope Olympic Airways of Greece orders these new high power high capacity 600 models because they really need them on their busy JFK to ATH route during the summer travel season.
Cba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4530 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1548 times:
SIA and Emirates with both probably wind up ordering the 772LR/773ER, as they both have large 777 fleets. Emirates doesn't even operate the A340. Lufthansa, Air Canada, and Swissair are the main cantidates for the A345 and A346.
TEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1455 times:
As far as the A340-300 Enhanced model, why doesn't Airbus put the stronger wings from the A340-500/600 models so that they can put 40,000lb thrust RR RB211s and P&W 2000 series engines that are on the Boeing 757 and Russian IL-96M to replace the 34,000lb thrust CFM56-5C4s.