Fiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4366 times:
Hi,
a 27 year old Indian woman gave birth onboard flight OS 33 VIE-DEL (OE-LPD "Spirit of Austria" for all the Registration freaks - Captain was Mr. Thomas Knispel ) 4 hours into the flight at 11.000 meters over Pakistan (according to the article).
The OS-Crew moved her into Biz-Class, contacted Primarius Dr. Salzer in Vienna via Satellite-Telephone for advice/help and within 25 minutes the little healthy baby boy was born.
In the 50 years OS is already in Business, this was the first child ever born onboard an OS Flight.
The article in the "Kronen-Zeitung" also mentioned that despite the fact it is forbidden that the woman did not inform OS that she was pregnant longer than 36. weeks at all and covered her pregnancy with wide clothes they (OS) are happy that everything went well in the end.
CEO Alfred Ötsch sent a message to the crew: "We are proud of you".
AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4371 posts, RR: 60 Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4345 times:
Thanks for sharing, was this a 763?
Any idea in what stage of the flight the birth happened? Did they divert to another airport to provide medical attention for the baby, or did they continue to DEL?
Fiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4333 times:
Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 1): Thanks for sharing, was this a 763?
Any idea in what stage of the flight the birth happened? Did they divert to another airport to provide medical attention for the baby, or did they continue to DEL?
Hi AirxLiban,
did you read the post ?
OE-LPD "Spirit of Austria" is the 4th (newest) B777-200ER from OS.
As written above this happened in-flight in 11.000 meter over Pakistan. No, they did not divert. They continued to DEL and the baby was checked there again by a doctor. Result: everything ok.
PS: For all the Austrian members in here, or people who can get a copy of today's Kronen Zeitung: There is a picture in it, showing the Mother with the little baby boy, the Captain, FO, FA's and some pax in Biz-Class....I dunno why they do not put it online tough.
Maddog888 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4301 times:
Just curious. How does this correlate with the idea of new babies not having well enough developed lungs to fly for ?? days after birth? Could the Captain boost cabin pressure or would/did he fly at a lower level or did he just continue as normal since the new arrival came into the world at that level?
This has come up before, and i think the answer was he was born on an Austrian registered aircraft, therefore he would have been technically born in Austria. I guess he would be an Austrian citizen, but his mother was Indian so he is probably entitled to dual citizenship.
Brian.
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Fiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4120 times:
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5): This has come up before, and i think the answer was he was born on an Austrian registered aircraft, therefore he would have been technically born in Austria. I guess he would be an Austrian citizen, but his mother was Indian so he is probably entitled to dual citizenship.
Hi Brian,
no, that is impossible. Austria does not allow dual citizenship anymore. I think the child will be an indian citizen.
Wingedarrow From Italy, joined May 2005, 163 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3825 times:
India definitely seems to be the preferred destination for pregnant passengers who wish to deliver inflight! In 1996 a 23-years-old Polish girl gave birth to a little baby named Maya 20 minutes after take-off on board an Alitalia MD-11 (I-DUPA, "Gioacchino Rossini", if I'm not wrong) en route from BOM to FCO...
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Kiramakora From India, joined Aug 2006, 413 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3675 times:
Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 5): I guess he would be an Austrian citizen, but his mother was Indian so he is probably entitled to dual citizenship.
Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 6): Austria does not allow dual citizenship anymore. I think the child will be an indian citizen.
India does not have dual citizenship either. Perhaps in the spirit of reconciliation, the baby should get Pakistani citizenship - born over their airspace after all . Kudos to OS crew for their fantastic work.
Boeing744 From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1551 posts, RR: 21 Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2828 times:
Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 6): no, that is impossible. Austria does not allow dual citizenship anymore. I think the child will be an indian citizen.
Yes, plus just being born in Austria (or in this case on an Austrian aircraft) does not entitle you to citizenship like in a country like the USA. I had a friend in Austria who was born there and has lived there her entire life, yet she isn't an Austrian citizen because her parents are Serbs. I believe she is now entitled to it since she has lived there so long, but simply hasn't gotten around to it, or didn't want to give up her Serbian citizenship.
I believe most (if not all) EU countries have policies like this.
WestWing From United States, joined Feb 2005, 1560 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2614 times:
Quoting Ag92 (Reply 17): Didn't Qataria get free flights on all Qatar Airways flight as she was born onboard
The Arabic name of Qatar airways is "Al Qataria". I think you meant Qatarina. I do not know the answer to your question. Generally speaking, unless a statement confirming the fly-free-for-life benefit comes from Qatar Airways themselves, I would suggest it is not worth believing.
[Edited 2008-01-13 20:17:04]
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Ag92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1208 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2281 times:
Quoting WestWing (Reply 18): Generally speaking, unless a statement confirming the fly-free-for-life benefit comes from Qatar Airways themselves, I would suggest it is not worth believing.
It was some time ago, but didn't it state that she would get free flights for life
Didn't what state? What is the "it" in your question referring to?
If there was an official QR statement or press release that said baby Qatarina will get free flights for life, then Qatarina obviously will get free flights for life. But I haven't seen any such official release or statement. So until I see a legitimate source, my inclination is to believe that it was someone regurgitating a very old urban legend. A news item quoting some arbitrary person at an embassy, does not (in my opinion) qualify as a legitimate source.
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SB From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2085 times:
Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 12): India does not have dual citizenship either.
Wrong, they do now.
Also if the fact about the lungs was true no baby could be born above 8000ft (standard cabin altitude), and we know loads of kids are born in the mountains every day...
no, that is impossible. Austria does not allow dual citizenship anymore. I think the child will be an indian citizen.
fiatstilojtd
Does Austria offer outright, birthright citizenship? I thought many European countries only allow citizenship for the grandchildren or great grandchildren of resident aliens.
Anyways, the mother definitely took a great risk flying in her state of health. This could have easily been a tragedy if there were complications. Perhaps it was important that her child be born in India?
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JMULAH From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
Congrats for the mother and the OS crew, job well done!
Must be hard to hide the fact that you are over 36 weeks pregnant but the only thing that matters is that the baby boy and mother are doing wel!
Fiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1427 times:
Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 16): I had a friend in Austria who was born there and has lived there her entire life, yet she isn't an Austrian citizen because her parents are Serbs. I believe she is now entitled to it since she has lived there so long, but simply hasn't gotten around to it, or didn't want to give up her Serbian citizenship.
As I do not know what the circumstances were in this case, I will NOT say that you are wrong, but I know a lot of Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian etc. people where the parents had the opportunity to choose when the baby was born if they want to have the baby the Austrian or Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian-citizenship and the parents chose (maybe as a "wrong form" of national proud) the Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian-citizenship....which was years later at least a very expensive "mistake" if the kids wanted to have the Austrian citizenship which is very expensive.
Kiramakora From India, joined Aug 2006, 413 posts, RR: 2 Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1246 times:
Quoting SB (Reply 21): Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 12):
India does not have dual citizenship either.
Wrong, they do now.
I am sorry. You are wrong. India does NOT allow dual-citizenship. I work for MEA and I can assure you that we do not. You can be a holder of a Persons of Indian Origin (PIO) card, and there is also a scheme of Overseas Indian Citizenship (OIC), but neither of them allows Indian citizens who take foreign nationality to keep their Indian citizenship. The law continues to require that Indian citizens who take foreign nationality must immediately surrender their Indian passports. Those who are eligible can then apply for registration as Overseas Indian Citizens.
An Overseas Citizen of India will enjoy all rights and privileges available to Non-Resident Indians excluding the right to invest in agriculture and plantation properties. There is no visa requirement for travel to India. The person has to carry his existing foreign passport along with Registration Certificate. Alternatively, the Overseas Citizen of India can apply for a new type of visa called ‘U’ visa which is a multi-purpose, multiple-entry, life-long visa for those that wish to acquire it. It will entitle the Overseas Citizen of India to visit the country at any time for any length of time and for any purpose.
An Overseas Citizen of India will not enjoy the following rights even if resident in India: (i) the right to vote, (ii) the right to hold the offices of President, Vice-President, Judge of Supreme Court and High Court, Member of Lok sabha, Rajya Sabha, Legislative Assembly or Council, (iii) appointment to Public Services (Government Service). Also Overseas Citizens of India are not eligible for an inner line permit, they have to apply for a Protected area permit if they want to visit certain areas in India.
Basically an OCI is sort of like a Permanent Resident (Green Card) holder in the U.S., or Canada, etc.
India does not afford dual citizenship.
26 Aarbee: I was about to clarify it before I read your post. Thanks for the exact details. Is there a official link mentioning OIC != Indian Citizen? I have a
27 Kiramakora: As per request, http://www.mha.nic.in/oci/oci-main.htm. ILP's are "special visas" that are needed to go to certain areas of India for non-Indian citi
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