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Will UA Replace PS 757 First Class Seats?  
User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

I am wondering if we might see UA replace the first class seats on its Premium Service 757s with the new international business class that they are beginning to install. The Premium Service Seats are the SQ Spacebed design and are lie flat seats. However with 68'' pitch, there is almost room to go fully flat with the new business class seats. Does anyone know the seat pitch of the new UA seats? UA could get a bit more space by shrinking the new closets the put in behind the first class cabin. They probably could keep the same 12 seat configuration. UA's next generation of business class seats are better than the first class seats on the PS 757s.


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Any ideas? Will UA upgrade those seats even more? Fully flat on a domestic flight would be amazing. No airline has ever offered that in recent memory on planes designed for domestic routes.

[Edited 2008-01-13 11:16:10]

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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

they will not in my mind upgrade the seats because the max flight time on a P.S. flight is 7 Hours and on a 747 and 777 you can have 12-26 hour flights double the time so the lie-flat seats are not needed to be upgraded for the shorter flights also the new F seats are very heavy and it would take up too much space in the a/c only 2 to a row instead of 5

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User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

I'm not sure that the length of a flight is the detemining factor so much as profitability which in this case will be driven by how many of the new seats they'd be able to fit in a 757 versus a wide(and longer)body.


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30584 posts, RR: 84
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3739 times:
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UA's "Spacebeds" still beat AA's First Class on their 767-200s, so I think UA is content to hold the line.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24858 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3690 times:

Once the international IPTE refits are done, I could see p.s. get new interiors, however that would be atleast 2 years away.

Anyhow like Stitch said there really is no competative pressure to further upgrade the seats at this time.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3573 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 3):
UA's "Spacebeds" still beat AA's First Class on their 767-200s, so I think UA is content to hold the line.

I agree with that. However offering a fully flat seat in first class might help differentiate it from the business class seats on the PS 757s. That might make people want to pay the more expensive fare.

I agree that such at move would likely be predicated by AA. However after UA finishes refitting the international fleet, it might make sense to look at PS.



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30584 posts, RR: 84
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3544 times:
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Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 5):
I agree with that. However offering a fully flat seat in first class might help differentiate it from the business class seats on the PS 757s. That might make people want to pay the more expensive fare.

As is, the Spacebeds are nicer then the Business Class seats on the p.s. 757s, which are based on the style UA is phasing out on their widebodies.

Now, should AA decide to improve their product on the 767-200s, that would almost certainly force UA to respond, since p.s. has boosted paid First and Business Class travel a not insignificant amount.


User currently offlineMymiles2go From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

They've said numerous times in the past that they plan to stay ahead of the curve with PS and continually improve the product. I would expect to see some changes within the next 12-24 months - given the changes in the international line.

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