CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
Hi!
Just to let you know that CS-TEX, that used to be with TP is just leaving to OMAN AIR. Full OMAN AIR colors but still with portuguese registration!!! Just received this nice livery a few days ago!!!
By the way, for those that like to know more about portuguese historic aviation and bit more too, and that can manage to read portuguese there's a very good, complete homepage called www.voaportugal.org!
Regards
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2471 times:
I found out the hard way that TAP is loosing their A-310s. Last week I flew to the Azores and back and especially chose the TAP-321 lunchtime flight back to fly on one before it's too late, but they substituted for a A-321 instead
At my 4 landings/departures at Lisbon I only saw CS-TEH in old colours, are they indeed down to 1 or 2 frames now? On which routes are they still used?
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Lotsamiles From United States of America, joined May 2005, 323 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2432 times:
Quoting CV990 (Thread starter): Full OMAN AIR colors but still with portuguese registration!!!
LifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1880 posts, RR: 8 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2394 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 1): Last week I flew to the Azores and back and especially chose the TAP-321 lunchtime flight back to fly on one before it's too late, but they substituted for a A-321 instead
You could have guessed with such a flightnumber...
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
If Bissau and Sao Tome are taken over by the 321, that is quite a drop in capacity. I hope when the 310 has gone, we see wide-bodied flights to these destinations, particularly as TAP is the sole European operator to Bissau, for example.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3322 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
WINGS From Portugal, joined May 2005, 2831 posts, RR: 70 Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
Quoting Orion737 (Reply 6): If Bissau and Sao Tome are taken over by the 321, that is quite a drop in capacity. I hope when the 310 has gone, we see wide-bodied flights to these destinations, particularly as TAP is the sole European operator to Bissau, for example.
If I'm not mistaken Tap operate their A321-200 fleet with 194 seats, while their A310-300 fleet have a capacity for 200 passengers. One has to agree that in terms of comfort the older A310's are more comfortable.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2199 times:
Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 4): and especially chose the TAP-321 lunchtime flight back to fly on one before it's too late, but they substituted for a A-321 instead
You could have guessed with such a flightnumber...
Oops I meant to have written, I chose the TAP-A310 lunchtime flight, the fltnr was TP1860
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
194 seats in the A321 yet only 6 more in the twin aisle-fat-football of the A310!! Less premium seats will be available to Bissau and other destinations demoted from 310 to 321 in that case.
Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1929 times:
Good point, the 321 is going to be abig step down in cargo carrying and I would think this important to these former Portugese colonies which other than TAP are largely cut off from the World.
I hope we will see the 332 deployed to both destinations, the 321 simply cannot replace the job of an A310!!!
KrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1575 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1898 times:
Are any of TP 's A313s going to TS?
Quoting CV990 (Thread starter): CS-TEX, that used to be with TP is just leaving to OMAN AIR. Full OMAN AIR colors but still with portuguese registration!!!
Oman Air is currently wet-leasing a B762 from MA for their LHR route. I wonder if the addition of this A313 will allow the leased aircraft to be returned to MA earlier than planned.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3322 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1656 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 9): I chose the TAP-A310 lunchtime flight
I would also have done that on purpose, to fly on the A310 before it's too late.
Two years and a half ago, I flew on an Air France 737-500 from VIE to CDG, I knew that after that flight I would never fly on an Air France 737 again.
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 15): Sad to see the good old A310 "abandonned" by another national Airline ...
CSA of Czech Republic, Tarom of Romania and Biman Bangladesh still fly them on scheduled flights.
Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium
"Aimer jusqu'a l'impossible, c'est possible". Tina Arena.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
Hi!
I think the A310-300 on TP did a very good job during all these years, they were a "workhorse" for many routes over the years and they certainly deserve a very good retirement, the first one came on August 1988, that's almost 20 years and if I remember correctly only the 707/727-100 lasted that long in TP service! So we can only say good things about this airplane! But there's still some hope for you that still want to fly a TP A310-300, the last one will leave in August!!! That situation regarding the replacement of the A310 in TP routes to Guine-Bissau and S.Tome Islands is a good point and I'm sure TP management is trying to find a solution...well at least there are still a few A310's left in Portugal that might operate for TP...but in the long run we'll have to see!!! Probably those two countries will need to improve their infrastructures to receive the A332!
Regards
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6890 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Quoting CV990 (Reply 17): That situation regarding the replacement of the A310 in TP routes to Guine-Bissau and S.Tome Islands is a good point and I'm sure TP management is trying to find a solution...
Unless I'm reading it wrong, according to TP's schedule the aircraft is parked in Bissau for over 24 hours. That is really poor utilization. They also only operate the flight only once per week. So maybe they'll use an A320 on the route and double the frequency. Any extra cargo could be sent on one of the regularly scheduled charters. The same coupld apply to TMS.
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1439 times:
Hi!
Quoting Airbazar (Reply 18): Unless I'm reading it wrong, according to TP's schedule the aircraft is parked in Bissau for over 24 hours.
I might be wrong but that happens because the crew cannot fly the return flight due to hours of work!!! We are not talking about an european flight but a "long-medium haul" flight...around 4:30 minutes....1:00 to transit and another 4:30 back to LIS??? No way!!! That's why the plane stays!
Regards
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 6890 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
Quoting CV990 (Reply 19): I might be wrong but that happens because the crew cannot fly the return flight due to hours of work!!!
I'm fully aware of that but surely, it would be more profitable for the airline to bring a second crew for the return and use the aircraft on another route where it can actually make money. Unless TP's crew are so well payed that it's cheaper to park an aircraft for a day. If that's true, something is really wrong.
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