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Message From Doug Steenland (Jan. 15)  
User currently offlineCAP2008 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Employee Update from Doug Steenland
Regarding Rumors of Airline Consolidation
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January 15, 2008
The Wall Street Journal today reported that Delta Air Lines has opened merger negotiations with both United Airlines and Northwest Airlines, and that Delta hopes to negotiate a merger agreement with one of the two airlines soon.

Recognizing that this kind of speculation impacts all of us, I want to reiterate for you some key principles that we are applying at Northwest Airlines.

First, we are going to continue our policy of not commenting on speculation or media coverage related to merger talks.

Second, you have my assurance that our Board of Directors and management team would not move forward with any transaction that did not benefit our employees, our shareholders and the communities we serve.

Third, it is our responsibility to consider the options available to us so that we can maintain and strengthen the competitive position we have achieved. We have valuable airline assets that include, among other things, the world-class employees of Northwest Airlines, our route structure, our fleet, our airport facilities, and our hubs. We can be proud of the fact that we run a great airline. The work you do, and the service you provide to our customers, make Northwest Airlines a leader in the industry. To maintain this position of leadership and strength, we need to pro-actively consider all options available to us and not just wait for our future to be dictated to us.

I will continue to provide you with further updates just as soon as we are able. In the meantime, thank you for making our airline among the very best in the business.



- Doug


The mother of the last KC-135 pilot has yet to be born.
28 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

Yeah read it on radar too, heres what it should have just said....

Quoting CAP2008 (Thread starter):
Second, you have my assurance that our Board of Directors and management team would not move forward with any transaction that did not benefit our shareholders

In the end thats all that really matters to them anyway....



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineEvilForce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2829 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 1):
In the end thats all that really matters to them anyway....

Well, they are the owners of the company. If the employees want to own the company nothing stops them from putting a bid together to buy NWA themselves. If they are tired of others dictating their destiny, they should step up and buy the company outright. *shrug*


User currently offlineCX288 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2800 times:



Quoting EvilForce (Reply 2):
If the employees want to own the company nothing stops them from putting a bid together to buy NWA themselves. If they are tired of others dictating their destiny, they should step up and buy the company outright. *shrug*

Some United employee groups once did that and it started off with great fanfare…

… but see how it all ended. Change of ownership, chapter 11 etc. And now maybe a merger with Delta  Smile


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7545 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2782 times:



Quoting EvilForce (Reply 2):
Well, they are the owners of the company. If the employees want to own the company nothing stops them from putting a bid together to buy NWA themselves.

Sure the BOD. Most likely they would vote down and employee buyout.



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

So -- what about the frequent flyer benefits - how would those transfer to the new NW/DL - let's call is NLD - what do we lose if we are NW ff flyers? What do we lose if we are DL ff flyers?

User currently offlineNwAflyer07 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2577 times:



Quoting Nwafflyer (Reply 5):
So -- what about the frequent flyer benefits - how would those transfer to the new NW/DL - let's call is NLD - what do we lose if we are NW ff flyers? What do we lose if we are DL ff flyers?

Probably nothing. Perhaps the amount of miles you earn on certain purchases as well as the price (in miles) of flights will change, but i dont know too much about the FF programs.

My biggest concern is my job and my father's job. Both of us work for NW, me being a part time ramper and himself being the maintenance manager. According to Anderson, the new airline will be named Delta with Delta people running everything, so im pretty much prepared to witness the death of NW and the screwing over of all it's employees. My father will probably be forced to move our family out of state (ATL or DTW) and ill most likely lose my job...

This merger will either be very good or very bad... It sucks that maybe a year or so after i finally got my job at NW ive wanted my whole life, ill lose it. Hopefully this isnt the case but only time will tell.


User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3297 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2529 times:



Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 6):
My biggest concern is my job and my father's job. Both of us work for NW, me being a part time ramper and himself being the maintenance manager. According to Anderson, the new airline will be named Delta with Delta people running everything, so im pretty much prepared to witness the death of NW and the screwing over of all it's employees. My father will probably be forced to move our family out of state (ATL or DTW) and ill most likely lose my job...

Let's be clear about something...Delta's culture is not one of "screwing over" it's people. Despite some tough times over the past few years, Delta's history of successful merger integrations is based on treating the employees of the acquired company with the same respect as it's own. While there is no guarantee that this will continue, I can pretty much assure you that you will feel better treated by Delta management than you ever have by Northwest. It's just a inherent difference in corporate culture that is ingrained in the DNA of each organization.


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2094 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2521 times:



Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 6):
so im pretty much prepared to witness the death of NW and the screwing over of all it's employees.

Nobody at DL wants to "screw over" any of the NW employees; that is not the DL way. That's not to say that there won't be some redundacies and some pain with this merger but it will most definatley be on a consensual basis with the new combined company doing all possible to minimize the negative effect to employees (both DL and NW). There is no doubt that many DL employees will have some hard decisions to make in the future too. Maybe you and your father will be asked to transfer to a new station. Are you prepared and able to do that? Maybe look at it as an exciting opportunity instead of something negative.


User currently offlineCAP2008 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2490 times:



Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 6):
According to Anderson, the new airline will be named Delta with Delta people running everything, so im pretty much prepared to witness the death of NW and the screwing over of all it's employees.

I don't know if I would go that far, I personally think it will be an AF/KL type of merge. I know Steenland's full of Sh**, but I just can't see that happening to NW. If anything does develop, it'll be before election time, the democrats will screw everyting up (merger wise).  duck 

Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 6):
This merger will either be very good or very bad...

Hope for the best.



The mother of the last KC-135 pilot has yet to be born.
User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2438 times:



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 7):
Let's be clear about something...Delta's culture is not one of "screwing over" it's people.

A bit of a reach don't you think?

I was around during the Western merger, and a lot of people at Western took it in the rear but they were kind about it as it took nearly two decades to decimate the route structure which eased the pain. You're also talking about a merger with NWA whose employees have been screwed by management so many times (present DL CEO included) they can't even count. You can talk about UAL too, but it's not like their ground personnel are going to pull up their skirts for an airline that has eliminated their ramp and ops personnel in the last 15 years, a group of personnel that are heavily unionized. Then you have to consider which hubs are getting canned, and right now CVG is the most likely to get hammered, and this will in fact screw Delta personnel.

This is a whole different ball game and it's just getting started.


User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3297 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2369 times:



Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 10):

This is a whole different ball game and it's just getting started.

Compared to NW, I don't think it is a stretch to think that DL will treat the people better.


User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2339 times:



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 11):
Compared to NW, I don't think it is a stretch to think that DL will treat the people better.

Everything is rosy!


User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3297 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2314 times:



Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 12):
Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 11):
Compared to NW, I don't think it is a stretch to think that DL will treat the people better.

Everything is rosy!

Is there anything from the history of these two companies that would give you ANY reason at all to believe that I am not correct? Anything???


User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2308 times:



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 13):
Is there anything from the history of these two companies that would give you ANY reason at all to believe that I am not correct? Anything???

They're a match made in heaven!


User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2241 times:



Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 7):
Delta's history of successful merger integrations is based on treating the employees of the acquired company with the same respect as it's own.

This made me laugh. If Delta treats NW employees with the same respect as NW treated its employees, than I guess this is not so good for NW employees. I think it might be better to say that Delta will treat them BETTER than NW treated them.



Yes...I am not a KIX fan. Let's Japanese Aviation!
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 9423 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2204 times:



Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 6):
My biggest concern is my job and my father's job. Both of us work for NW, me being a part time ramper and himself being the maintenance manager. According to Anderson, the new airline will be named Delta with Delta people running everything, so im pretty much prepared to witness the death of NW and the screwing over of all it's employees. My father will probably be forced to move our family out of state (ATL or DTW) and ill most likely lose my job...

i wouldn't worry to much DL is much better than NW hints how there is only 1 big union(DALPA)

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 10):

wouldn't say that but if jobs need to go they will most likely be NW jobs

Quoting Centrair (Reply 15):
I think it might be better to say that Delta will treat them BETTER than NW treated them.

true again hints how there is only the DALPA



yep.
User currently offlineBoeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2198 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 16):
wouldn't say that but if jobs need to go they will most likely be NW jobs

Oh that's comforting for those NWA employees who have been burned at the stake for decades. Bravo!


User currently offlineJetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3297 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2175 times:



Quoting Centrair (Reply 15):

This made me laugh. If Delta treats NW employees with the same respect as NW treated its employees, than I guess this is not so good for NW employees. I think it might be better to say that Delta will treat them BETTER than NW treated them.

You know what I meant.  Wink


User currently offlinePhilly65 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Message From Doug Steenland (Jan. 15)

Oh, I thought maybe Doug came out of the closet or something...LOL!


User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2094 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2154 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 16):
Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 10):


wouldn't say that but if jobs need to go they will most likely be NW jobs

That is just pure fiction. You have no basis in fact to say this. Again, this is not a hostile take over and therefore any sacrifices will most likely be shared equally.


User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2134 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 1):
Quoting CAP2008 (Thread starter):
Second, you have my assurance that our Board of Directors and management team would not move forward with any transaction that did not benefit our shareholders

YOU!! SHUT UP!! If you continue spouting off like that, and warning our employees that I am lying to them, I will have to remove you from the meeting!!!


User currently offlineCRJ200FAGuy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

I think Delta and NWA realize the need to merge to take on Skybus. They both know they can't survive alone.  Smile

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2034 times:



Quoting CRJ200FAGuy (Reply 22):
I think Delta and NWA realize the need to merge to take on Skybus.

Sorry dude, but that's one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. EVERYBODY I talk to who flies Skybust says it is a joke of an airline. Either that, or they say it won't last long. SX is not really powerful enough to take on DL or NW alone. After all, not even Valujet could kill DL. and AirTran STILL Can't kill DL. (I doubt they're even trying anymore)

If Bill Diffenderffer would get his head out of his ass, he would realize that he cannot effectively run an airline without a little thing we like to call CUSTOMER SERVICE.


User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1967 times:



Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 8):
Maybe look at it as an exciting opportunity instead of something negative.

Sure... 'cause nothing is as exciting as uprooting your life.



Anyone who's been at NWA awhile has most likely been there and done that.


 Yeah sure



"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
25 DL Widget Head : Nobody is forcing anybody to uproot their lives. People have choices. Just like one can choose to view this situation either negatively or positively
26 Azjubilee : How about we all wait and see what comes of this merger discussion before we get all melodramatic about it. The truth is that NOBODY knows what the fi
27 Bobnwa : Your prediction of what was going to happen on Jan 7 never happened, so any future predictions are not likely to hold much water either. As AZJ said,
28 DLX737200 : No offense man... but you've dreamed of being a ramper your whole life? I'm a ramper too and love my job but I haven't dreamed about it my whole life
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