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Official: Airbus 2007 Sales Press Conference  
User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8435 times:
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Let's use this thread to keep together the interesting discussion that's bound to be gererated by Airbus' Annual Press Conference.

The conference starts at 09.30GMT and can be followed from Airbus' website:
http://www.airbus.com/en


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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3948 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8366 times:

Airbus managed the following in 2007 -

453 Deliveries (+19 over 2006)
1,341 net orders @ $157billion at list

[Edited 2008-01-16 01:40:41]

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8343 times:
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OK, here we go.


Net orders for 2007 = 1,341 (value $157bn, 30% higher than 2005)

Deliveries = 453 (19 increase on 2006)



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8340 times:

It's 0935Z right now, they are beginning.

453 airplanes delivered in 2007, that is +19 over deliveries for 2006.

Total net orders for 2007 is 1341 airplanes.


User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8344 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 1):
1,341 net orders @ $157billion at list

30% rise compared to the last record year (2005).



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8294 times:
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A320 - 913 net orders, backlog over 2,500

[Edited 2008-01-16 01:52:31]


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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8300 times:

2007 orders include 913 A-320 series.

2007 orders for the A-330/A-340/A-350 is 405 net.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8235 times:
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A330/340/350 - 405 net orders (511 gross)

A350 - 290 firm orders.

[Edited 2008-01-16 01:45:47]


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8187 times:

"A350XWB fastest selling widebody"

(while in the back a QANTAS A380 was rolling by Big grin)



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User currently offlineGorgos From Greece, joined Dec 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

So, that means the huge number of LOI should be signed in the coming months.

User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8185 times:

A350 detail design freeze will be in the second half this year.

A350 overall design freeze was last year.



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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8140 times:

A350 will be EIS in 2013


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8137 times:

13 A380's will be delivered this year. It will be a big effort.


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8141 times:
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A380 - 33 new orders, 10 cancellations


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8143 times:

BA's A380 order is firm according to Enders...


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8090 times:

backlog is 3400 aircraft


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8091 times:
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Total backlog 3,400



The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand.



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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8091 times:

enough for 6 years production... Although productions will be increased.


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7974 times:

Power8 will continue as the scale of Airbus is rapidly changing. It's not only a cost-cutting operation, but an operation to make Airbus leaner and more productive.


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12568 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7978 times:
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Power8 exceeded its 2007 targets. Savings in 2007 close to €500m.


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7976 times:

Power8 exceeded it's 2007 target, costsaving is close to 500 million euros. This program is doable and very needed. Goal is to reduce with 2.1 billion euros. Also they want to reduce 10.000 overhead positions, 3000 positions already reduced in 2007.


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7914 times:

Negotiations for the sale of 6 sites continue and will be rounded up this summer.


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7867 times:

Airbus will be comitted to reduce CO2 emissions, but it will be only possible by technology.


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User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1922 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7818 times:

The perspective for the industry will remain good, but not on the level as in 2007.

Predictions will be difficult. Airbus forecasts that order intake will be above the delivery rate (more than 400 planes). That is the only forecast they want to do.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7822 times:

expect to deliver 470 airplanes in 2008. Including 13 A-380s

25 Scouseflyer : So they've come second (just) but already had a really good start to 2008. Do it look like that Chinese order is in this 1341?
26 Scbriml : Orders for 2008 expected to be higher than deliveries. 2008 deliveries expected to be 470+.
27 KC135TopBoom : A-400M program delayed 6-12 moinths.
28 LifelinerOne : Airbus will work hard to stabilize the A400M, target that the A400M will fly in Summer 2008. A big milestone. Also, Airbus will work "full-throttle" o
29 Moo : No, they have already confirmed it isn't before this meeting.
30 LifelinerOne : Airbus is not disappointed by the result of 2007... If they had the half orders as Boeing had, they would be thinking hard about what's wrong. This li
31 KC135TopBoom : Boeing had more orders this year than we did.
32 LifelinerOne : Today, 30% of the costs of Airbus is in dollars, this need to be a bigger share. Therefore additional measures on Power8 are needed to be less influen
33 LifelinerOne : There won't be more jobcuts beyond 2008.
34 Gorgos : "market share of 51% gross and 49% net, pretty diplomatic" John Leahy
35 Post contains links Slz396 : Pretty much what was expected, Airbus wins in gross, Boeing in net... Despite announcing superb sales figures, I think that for many journalists, the
36 LifelinerOne : A slower order intake won't be a disaster for Airbus, as they have a quality backlog according to Enders... Leahy says that the industry is a the top
37 Gorgos : Slz396, with all due respect, I dont think thats necessary. Lets not make the same mistake some people made when there were the a380 delays by childis
38 LifelinerOne : Leahy expects a much shallower downturn for growthspots like China, Asia and LCC's.
39 LifelinerOne : Starting an Airbus A330F FAL in the US in in sync with internationalising Airbus, but only when winning the tanker order. It makes financial sense to
40 LifelinerOne : The most critical part in the A400M is the engines, but there are some internal issues. However, it's not only about wiring that was reported earlier
41 Post contains images AutoThrust : If i did understand correctly the workload of one A380 is the same as 9 A320 according to Enders !
42 LifelinerOne : Airbus remains interested in a second engine for the A350. Howeve, it is selling very well with the current engine. Leahy adds that selling the A350 w
43 BestWestern : Congratukations to Airbus for a wonderful year, and congratulations to Boeing for winning the 2007 order race - what a suberb year they had!
44 Post contains links Scbriml : http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre.../08_01_16_airbus_2007_results.html Orders in 2007 = 1,341 net (1,458 gross) 913 x A32x 405 x A330/A340/A350 23
45 Post contains images LifelinerOne : And that's that, the press conference is over, we're all invited to the buffet ! Cheers!
46 Alessandro : Does Airbus comment on the two serious A346 accidents?
47 N14AZ : Could this be MSN 014 which was scheduled to be transfered to XFW on January 14th 2008?
48 Post contains images LifelinerOne : No, they didn't said anything about it. It wasn't asked either by one of the reporters in the room. I don't know. It was in primer, but with a QANTAS
49 Post contains images Scbriml : A great year for Airbus, especially considering their problems through 2006. Congratulations to Boeing on their victory in the order race for 2007, an
50 Scouseflyer : Sounds possible, I haven't heard any news of it being transferred to XFW yet (but I may be wrong!)
51 Worldrider : and a nice total of 405 widebodies, NET orders. the BA 380s firmed up.. Congrats to Airbus!
52 Scouseflyer : My crude maths suggests that the Groupo Marsans ones have been firmed too. I wonder what A380 orders 2008 will bring?
53 Post contains images Kappel : Not surprising IMHO, given the demand for new aircraft right now. They still have plenty orders pending, so he has no reason to be worries. I guess t
54 Post contains images Slz396 : Who's invited at the Captain's table? What victory? They took less firm orders this year than Airbus, so they didn't win the order race; they just wo
55 Columba : TAM; ANA, AIr India, Jet Airways and some chinese airlines come to my mind.....
56 Post contains images LifelinerOne : I found them very conservative with predicting the order intake for 2008. They just said that it will be more than the deliveries (more than 470), bu
57 Flying-Tiger : Expectation for 2008 is at least 30 A380 orders from new and existing customers and over 100 for the A350XB for "comfortably over 400 firm orders for
58 Zeke : In early Dec Airbus had close to 700 commitments for orders, anyone able to do the math and let us know how many have been carried over to 2008 ?
59 Columba : LH is one of the customers that have not firmed up any options, yet. They might do that when they announce their decision between the 787/A350. Like
60 PanAm_DC10 : Not to forget that ILFC will place an order for over 100 x A320 Series and 10 + A350s.
61 Flying-Tiger : It´s drifting away from the topic but anyway: with ILFC having around 100 A350/B787 at their disposal one has to wonder why GECAS isn´t reacting. N
62 Scbriml : That will be tricky till we see the O&D spreadsheet to see which orders were firmed in December. I don't think so. Gross A380 orders were 33 - EK x 1
63 Post contains images Scbriml : They will? Has this been discussed here before? I missed it if it has. [edit] Well, I checked and couldn't find anything, so I'm pretty sure this new
64 Post contains links Zeke : The video highlights and audio of the press conference are now available from http://www.airbus.com/en/ for anyone that missed it before live.
65 Post contains images Zeke : Slides (2-9) from the presentation
66 Danny : He already said it must be GECAS to embrace it now as he is fairly sure that GECAS won't buy it untill there is GE engine on offer.
67 Post contains images Astuteman : Congratulations to Airbus on an outstanding year. Success across the board this year (unlike the last 2 years poor widebody sales). And Kudos for keep
68 Flipdewaf : on slide 2 how come 49% has a bigger bit of the pie chart? Anyway ,congrats to Airbus, thats a lot of orders and well done to Boeing, hope they both
69 Post contains images 7cubed : I was wondering the same thing...must be a Leahy graphic.
70 Burkhard : Congrats to Airbus and Boeing... With these numbers it is easy to be second. And with these pending orders, too.
71 Post contains images Scbriml : Lies, damned lies, statistics and Powerpoint presentations!
72 Post contains images SAS A340 : exactly, overall Airbus feels very very strong!!
73 JAAlbert : So which manufacturer booked more orders in terms of value? How does Boeing's 2007 widebody order book stack up next to Airbus'?
74 Post contains images Sebolino : They used the same pie for both results. It looks strange. PR math is not conventional !!
75 Ikramerica : Amazing backlog of orders and amazing backlog of pending orders. Airbus looks to be in good shape as long as the world economy stays strong. I find it
76 CygnusChicago : Wow, impressive numbers. Congrats to Airbus, and great job to Boeing on achieving most orders. It's also nice to see Airbus' wide-body numbers picking
77 Post contains images Jsewoggie : It's amazing how many orders both companies booked in 2007. I take a little issue with the presentation about the A350XWB being the "fastest selling j
78 Post contains images Charles79 : Excellent results for Airbus!!! Can't wait for all these new birds to reach the skies! I wonder how much longer can some of the US legacy carriers ho
79 Post contains images Azhobo : Just fudged it enough to take the gross order crown. With all the pendiing orders why would they expect firm orders to be in the 500+ range for this
80 CygnusChicago : I couldn't see from the results - what did they do to the unconverted A350 order? Have they canceled it?
81 Moo : Apparently not - the Air Europa, Kingfisher, Eurofly and TAM orders are still outstanding on the December O&D sheet.
82 Ikramerica : Why does Airbus insist on calling the A350 part of the A330/A340 family at some times, and then claim it's all new at others? It's tiresome. The A330
83 Legoguy : Congrats to Airbus after a fine year, and also congrats to Boeing also. 2007 has been a fantastic year all round for both. Great stuff. Perhaps they w
84 Moo : Family in terms of size? A320 family, A330/340/350 family and A380 (family to come?). Small, medium and large areas of the market. Narrowbodies, wide
85 Leskova : Nice numbers for both manufacturers... Who cancelled? Is this the UPS/FedEx-cancellation (which, somehow, I'm placing into 2006 in my head), or anothe
86 Brendows : UPS.
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