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Just Announced...Skyway Airlines Closing  
User currently offlineBoeing12345 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 112 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 16213 times:

Just announced that Skyway Airlines will be closing the doors. Last flight to take place on April 5th. Look for official announcement around 11AM. All flying to be handled by Skywest.

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User currently offlineRJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 16094 times:

didnt see this one coming,, but with an obsolete A/C like the 328 , and getting rid of the Beeches, I guess i cant be surprised,.,.,.GOnna miss those little DOrk jets!!!!!

So much for new markets for YX as the remaining CRJS from SKywest will just cover replacement flying!

this TPG thing is looking less exciting for YX and growth.. UNLESS

they would be smart and buy q400's!!!!!


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 16003 times:

Its probably a good move. An airline the size of Midwest should only have 1 regional parter. Sad for the employees loosing their jobs, but I'm prety sure all of them have been looking to bail out anyway.

User currently offlinePilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15729 times:

Midwest Airlines to Transition Regional Operations to SkyWest; Reposition Skyway Airlines as Airport Services Function
MILWAUKEE, Jan 16, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX News Network/ -- Midwest Airlines (AMEX: MEH) today announced that it will transition the operation of all Midwest Connect flights from Skyway Airlines to SkyWest Airlines as part of its agreement with the St. George, Utah-based carrier to operate 50-seat Canadair regional jets for Midwest Connect. SkyWest will continue to serve regional markets now served by Skyway, using the 50-seat aircraft to fly routes currently served by 32-seat aircraft.

As flight operations transition to SkyWest in March and April, Skyway Airlines will discontinue providing regional flight operations for Midwest Airlines, which will result in the elimination of the positions of approximately 380 Skyway employees -- mostly pilots, flight attendants, mechanics and dispatchers.

Skyway Airlines will continue in an airport services role -- providing Ramp and Dining Services operations for Midwest Airlines and Midwest Connect, and Customer Service operations in Midwest Connect field stations. Over time, Skyway's business will be expanded to offer these types of services to other airlines. The positions of the approximately 750 employees who provide service support functions will not be affected by today's announcement.

The economies of operating the current Skyway fleet of 32-seat Fairchild 328JET regional jets necessitated the change in strategy, according to David C. Reeve, Skyway chairman, president and chief executive officer. In addition to rapidly rising fuel prices, operating the jets has become more costly and complex because the aircraft is no longer being produced.

"This was an extremely difficult business decision in terms of its impact on Skyway employees," Reeve said. "However, it is necessary for the long-term success of Midwest Air Group." He noted that there will likely be opportunities for some employees with Midwest Airlines or SkyWest Airlines, and that the company would provide severance and support to eligible employees whose positions are eliminated.

"The change in strategy will redeploy our resources in a more strategic, cost-effective manner," explained Reeve. "The 50-seat aircraft will provide us additional seating capacity at about the same cost of operation as the 32-seat aircraft."

SkyWest operates a fleet of 15 50-seat regional jets for Midwest Connect as part of a five-year agreement with Midwest that began in April 2007. To support the transition, additional 50-seat aircraft will join the fleet in March and April 2008. Under the agreement, SkyWest provides aircraft, flight crews and maintenance services for the 50-seat aircraft. Midwest Airlines oversees route planning, scheduling, marketing and sales, and also sets and enforces service standards. The aircraft are painted in the Midwest Connect livery and feature Midwest's brown leather seats.

According to Reeve, the airline plans to offer about the same number of seats in Skyway markets, but with slightly less frequency. This will result in some schedule changes; passengers will be notified if their flights are affected.

"SkyWest's experience, excellent record of operational performance and commitment to customer service mirrors our own," Reeve added. "Midwest Connect passengers should expect a smooth transition of service."

Midwest Airlines features jet service throughout the United States, including Milwaukee's most daily nonstop flights and best schedule to major destinations. Catering to business travelers and discerning leisure travelers, the airline earned its reputation as "The best care in the air" by providing passengers with impeccable service and onboard amenities at competitive fares. More information is available at http://www.midwestairlines.com.

SOURCE Midwest Air Group

Not good news for smaller cites they fly too:
According to Reeve, the airline plans to offer about the same number of seats in Skyway markets, but with slightly less frequency. This will result in some schedule changes; passengers will be notified if their flights are affected.

[Edited 2008-01-16 09:11:28]

User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15704 times:

And here it is: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....-newsArticle&ID=1097150&highlight=

Skyway will be reduced to just providing ramp and customer service operations.



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15531 times:

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/13838812.html

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6029 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 15370 times:

I hope that during, and after, the transition, the remaining people of Skyway maintain a mature enough attitude about themselves to see that, ultimately, it was Midwest, and not SkyWest or Skyway that made this decision.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22995 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15252 times:

It seems to me that there are two competing interests here. An FRJ more efficiently carries 30 passengers than a CRJ. There's no question about that. On the other hand, at some point, it's not efficient to have a small fleet of what is basically an orphaned aircraft. Furthermore, a full CRJ generally makes more money than a full FRJ (because it's more efficient on a per-seat basis).

But in many markets, I just don't see how this will work. $200 advance purchase fares to longer-haul AL destinations like BNA and SDF are already the norm, and will be even more so when there are 20 more seats to fill. Frequency is already so low in most of these markets that it can't really drop more. So what gives? I foresee some station closings.



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2388 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15184 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
So what gives?

Something else may be up. MD 90 replacement order that is more than replacement? More cooperation and intigration with NW? or ...as you state...more station closings. It will all change again if DL and NW merge.


User currently offlineCitrusCritter From Pitcairn Islands, joined May 2007, 1103 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15024 times:



Quoting RJNUT (Reply 1):
So much for new markets for YX as the remaining CRJS from SKywest will just cover replacement flying!

If true, perhaps an opportunity for XE?



TLH
User currently offlineN917ME From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 730 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15027 times:



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 8):
It will all change again if DL and NW merge

Agreed. Should be an interesting next few months. A decision should be made by the end the month regadring the TPG stuff.

I do feel for the SkyWay Airlines Pilots and FA's. They are a great bunch of people.. I wish nothing but the best for these great people. I only hope that they show their maturity and respect and do not take adverse actions (sickouts, CHAOS, etc).

Unfortunatley, it is a business and we are in for a rough 2008 with the oil prices and rocky economy. Its a sad situation, but putting person feelings aside, we need to change and adapt to survive.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22995 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14998 times:



Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 9):

If true, perhaps an opportunity for XE?

I don't know. It sounds like YX wants a single regional carrier, and at their size, that makes some sense. Of course, they are looking to grow 50 seater operations at a time when most carriers, including probably DL and UA, are looking to shrink them, so I suspect OO could find some more capacity.



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User currently offlineJoeljack From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14935 times:

No schedule updates yet. When will the schedules be updated?

User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2443 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14812 times:

Sad. Midwest taking yet another step towards becoming just another generic carrier..............

Gonna miss those Dork jets here in GRR.

Sigh, more CRJs.......................



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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14792 times:

What will happen to the B1900 airports? Will those EAS contracts go out for bids then?

User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 822 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14731 times:

Predictions on whether the remaining Skyway employees will get to keep their nonrev benefits on YX and OO?

User currently offlinePilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14626 times:

It will interesting to see what happens to places like MSN. Right now 2 or 3 of the afternoon-evening flights are 328 flights. Now after the cut we will either lose one or two of those flights or go to all CRJs and see added capacity.

User currently offlineKnope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2911 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14614 times:

I'm very sorry for all the affected employees. There are some really good people who will be impacted by this. Hopefully they find opportunities elsewhere. For some employees who were not especially happy in their positions, this might be the push they needed to move on to bigger and better things in the industry (including better pay). For those who were happy and for those for whom moving on wasn't an option, this is especially unfortunate.

The internal company memo posted elsewhere states that the 32-seat FRJ's trip costs were nearly as high as the 50-seat CRJ: "The 50-seat aircraft provide us additional seating capacity at about the same cost of operation as the 32-seat aircraft." I don't think the FRJ was ever considered a particularly effecient aircraft, and I suppose it is no surprise that it is killing them with costs in the current environment. It's a small (12-aircraft) fleed of orphaned aircraft...the only FRJ's left in the US.

I'll definitely miss the FRJ and many of the employees who flew them. It's through no fault of their own that this is happening.

If I had to swag a guess, here's how the MKE schedule will change.

(These numbers include existing CRJ's in mixed Skyway/Skywest markets of MSN OMA and CMH)

Green Bay
5 flights 147 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Appleton
6 flights 192 seats goes to 5 flights 250 seats
Madison
5 flights 195 seats goes to 4 flights 200 seats
Wausau
3 flights 83 seats goes to 2 flights 100 seats
Des Moines
4 flights 128 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Omaha
3 flights 132 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Indianapolis
4 flights 128 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Louisville
2 flights 64 seats goes to 2 flights 100 seats
Nashville
4 flights 118 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Cleveland
4 flights 128 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Dayton
3 flights 96 seats goes to 2 flights 100 seats
Columbus
4 flights 182 seats goes to 4 flights 200 seats
Toronto
2 flights 64 seats goes to 2 flights 100 seats
Flint
4 flights 128 seats goes to 3 flights 150 seats
Grand Rapdis
6 flights 170 seats goes to 4 flights 200 seats


Dropped are Escanaba, Rhinelander, Iron Mountain, Ironwood, Muskegon, Manistee, and St Louis.

Today
72 flights with 2241 seats
Projected
46 flights with 2300 seats

This is only my own speculation, of course.


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 14241 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 7):
It seems to me that there are two competing interests here. An FRJ more efficiently carries 30 passengers than a CRJ. There's no question about that. On the other hand, at some point, it's not efficient to have a small fleet of what is basically an orphaned aircraft. Furthermore, a full CRJ generally makes more money than a full FRJ (because it's more efficient on a per-seat basis).

But in many markets, I just don't see how this will work. $200 advance purchase fares to longer-haul AL destinations like BNA and SDF are already the norm, and will be even more so when there are 20 more seats to fill. Frequency is already so low in most of these markets that it can't really drop more. So what gives? I foresee some station closings

You're probably right, unfortunately.

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 14):
What will happen to the B1900 airports? Will those EAS contracts go out for bids then?

The EAS cities - Ironwood (IWD), Iron Mountain (IMT), Escanaba (ESC), and Manistee (MBL) have been up for bid since last spring. Great Lakes initially won the bid, but couldn't get their act together so the DOT gave up on them and re-opened the bid in November. Big Sky put in a bid for all four cities, and Mesaba bid for ESC/IMT. Big Sky withdrew their bid on January 2 in lieu of their cutbacks and potential liquidation.

Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 17):
I'm very sorry for all the affected employees. There are some really good people who will be impacted by this. Hopefully they find opportunities elsewhere. For some employees who were not especially happy in their positions, this might be the push they needed to move on to bigger and better things in the industry (including better pay). For those who were happy and for those for whom moving on wasn't an option, this is especially unfortunate.

The internal company memo posted elsewhere states that the 32-seat FRJ's trip costs were nearly as high as the 50-seat CRJ: "The 50-seat aircraft provide us additional seating capacity at about the same cost of operation as the 32-seat aircraft." I don't think the FRJ was ever considered a particularly effecient aircraft, and I suppose it is no surprise that it is killing them with costs in the current environment. It's a small (12-aircraft) fleed of orphaned aircraft...the only FRJ's left in the US.

I'll definitely miss the FRJ and many of the employees who flew them. It's through no fault of their own that this is happening.

Reading between the lines on the memo, it said that all markets currently served by the FRJ will transition to the CRJ, but with less frequency. In other words, Muskegon and Rhinelander are screwed.

MKG couldn't make a CRJ to DTW work a few years ago on NW, it sure as hell won't work on a short hop to MKE.
Unless, of course, we only had maybe one or two flights a day, that's it.

With the EAS cities still unresolved, this is also bad news since Skyway will most likely abandon the EAS routes come March/April regardless of whether there is a new carrier selected or not.

Of course, with the YX/NW codeshare, one wonders how much of the abandoned Skyway flying will be picked up by Mesaba. It's possible that we might see Saabs picking up some of those routes into MKE.

Which would only add insult to injury.

I don't really have the words to describe what I feel about this happening. It's a cruel slap in the face to Skyway by the Midwest management. I can only hope that if the TPG deal goes through, they will turn the ship upside down and perhaps undo some of this dumb decisions.

As for me, I'm just glad I"m going back to school this fall.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5050 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13988 times:

Darn. I am saddened to hear that Skyway is not going to be flying anymore. Do you think Skyway would have been around longer if they had not gone with the FRJ? I am sorry to hear about the employees affected. I am sure they will have no problem finding work. Perhaps Skywest will offer them jobs.


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User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4276 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13894 times:

This in a weird way is going to really be a morale blow to Air Wisconsin even more. Air Wisconsin had a chance at this contract, and it should have been their's, and I really think it was their's until management blew it like they have been doing more and more lately. Now SkyWest is going to grow even more right in Air Wisconsin's backyard. The other morale problem here is that Jim Rankin who is currently the CEO of AWAC, used to be CEO of SkyWay. Not saying that SkyWay was his fault, but it won't look good to the current AWAC employees, given the fact that Rankin has been very disappointing as a CEO since taking over AWAC. The Pilots have already been a disgruntled group, and they just lost a big part of the arbitration battle, and its gotten so bad that ALPA is going to start recommending pilots not to fly for AWAC and they are not going to refer any pilots.

That being said, this will make it easier to Jumpseat down to MKE and back since the CRJ's won't be weight restricted too much on this route unless weather is really bad.


User currently offlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13845 times:

That's very sad. I loved the FRJs; and to think that just last year they bought two of them. I'm just getting more and more disappointed of what is becoming of the Midwest Express I used to love. Only time will tell, I guess. Perhaps there's a hope that all the downgrades are a temporary change, until they can regain enough revenue to go back to themselves? Hopefully?

Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 13):
Midwest taking yet another step towards becoming just another generic carrier....

I hate to think you might be right.



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13843 times:



Quoting F9Animal (Reply 19):
Perhaps Skywest will offer them jobs

All regionals are desperate for pilots, they'll be working soon


User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13716 times:

Best of luck to all the employees in finding new jobs. I'll miss those FRJs. I was hoping to get another ride on a FRJ, I've only been on one from BOS-PHL on DL/Atlantic Coast Airlines which was a blast.

User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13606 times:

Ahhhhh this is absolutely awful! Definately not what I wanted to nor was expecting to hear. So I guess this means we will never see YX re-order some new aircraft for in-house flying such as ERJs? Even when the OO contract expires? What are they going to do with that new hangar then that they just built at MKE for Skyway a few years ago?

I'm really gonna miss seeing those F328s around. We're looking at going up the Wausau in February for some skiing so I'm hopeful I can convince my dad to do MKE-CWA-MKE instead of driving. As some of you have said before, it seems Midwest is slowly but surely taking away the things that make it seem unique/different...  Sad



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25 JBo : At the time they ordered the 328Jet, I don't think there were any indicators of the troubles at Fairchild-Dornier. The 428Jet program was still on th
26 N917me : Personally I feel for the Skyway employees that will lose their current job. However, as someone stated earlier, regionals are always looking for pilo
27 Post contains images NWADC9 : Moment of silence for Skyway Loved my one flight on them and their FRJ. Guess it's a good thing I opted for that later flight to get on 'em last summe
28 Sxf24 : Um, this was one of the smartest moves YX management has made in a long time. I'm sure it was not made without consulting TPG.
29 FL787 : So much for the idea that FL would have been bad for Skyway. I feel bad for the pilots who had no say in what happened.
30 AlexPorter : So IWD and MBL are SOL for the time being? I would have tried to use the IWD service if I ever needed to go directly to our family vacation house up
31 Boeing12345 : Hey Dude, I had no idea that when I mentioned this in a post on Monday that this would happen so fast. A lot of folks knew it was coming but it is st
32 Post contains images Osprey88 : Sad, I was hoping to fly on the 328Jet this summer, damn I wonder who they will be selling the aircraft to... I think Vision Air could probably use th
33 PlanesNTrains : Kind of what I was thinking, though I certainly see the logic in it. I suppose if MAG had the money/desire, they could have acquired some relatively
34 JBo : I don't think anybody did! And thanks for the well-wishes. Good thing I was already planning on going back ... I just may have to look for other part
35 Sxf24 : I'm sure its not related, but I'm confident that a material change in business operations would have had input or consent from the acquiring party. D
36 Cubsrule : Knope, I hate to say this, but I think you're being VERY optimistic about the FRJ markets outside of Michigan and Wisconsin. I think you're right tha
37 Sxf24 : I would bet that SDF is gone too.
38 Cubsrule : I'd add BNA, DAY, and YYZ to that list as well.
39 RJNUT : MKE is unique in that most markets like MKE-IND, CVG,SDF, CMH all require a drive thru CHICAGOLAND on the ever-congested Tollway and sometimes down an
40 Mke717spotter : As of right now then there are no bids up for the EAS flying? Back where we started? I actually wouldn't mind seeing those NW Saabs flying those rout
41 RJNUT : with the code share program between the two , it could work,,, although MSP would be more logcial from a crew/routing standpoint!
42 HPAEAA : heck, why not CLE - 1/2 the station is already outsourced... and they only have 4 flights a day...
43 Cubsrule : 3 flights a day, which I think CLE can probably support, is far more competitive than 2.
44 HPAEAA : Probably, but CLE also has CO who runs the route... the press release mentioned that the Airport side of skyway was going to be looking to expand it'
45 Knope2001 : Certainly it's all speculation at this point, but YX* already carries enough passengers in many of their FRJ markets to support the CRJ with 1 fewer
46 Post contains images MKE22 : Wow.... I'm from MKE and I don't know what to say. All I hope that this just doesn't hurt YX's growth. Sad day, but maybe a chance for more RJs. Rest
47 Post contains links Knope2001 : According to this article, the Midwest Connect division lost $9.6m in the first nine months of 2007. The first nine months of 2006 the loss was $3.6m
48 MKE22 : Indeed. I just hope this move gets YX and Connect back on the right track.
49 Boeing12345 : I think what few people understand about this issue is that Skyway has been purchasing all equipment for the Skywest operation last year. Line mainte
50 Post contains links and images JBo : Mesaba's bid for IMT/ESC has them flying the routes either out of MSP exclusively or MSP and DTW together: http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...=Do
51 Jetdeltamsy : What's your point? They're human being who have just been outsourced. Look for less than stellar attitudes among those affected. It's just human natu
52 Post contains images JBo : It's true ... with our station seemingly a lame duck, there's hardly any motivation to do a good job anymore. But ... I'm going to look at it as havi
53 Warszawa : I'm saddened for the SkyWay employees, however, truthfully, what needs to be done is what needs to be done, in the best interest for the companies fut
54 Goldenshield : They haven't been out-sourced; the ground ops personnel still have their jobs. My point is that despite the loss of flight operations and handling th
55 N917me : Midwest/Midwest connect will add 9 more CRJ's to the current fleet.
56 Knope2001 : Currently Skyway has 15 CRJ's in Midwest Connect service, 14 lines of flying and one spare. The speculative schedule I worked uses 7 lines of flying.
57 AirTran737 : I am truly saddened for the Skyway employees, With that said, AirTran is sending the pilot and flight attendant recruiters to MKE on 1/26 to meet with
58 Cubsrule : I thought DGS was handling them in CLT... was I wrong?
59 Post contains images SkyexRamper : Well since the 99.9% of the people that care about anything around there were the people being fired, I think that people won't give a damn, which is
60 Lowrider : Good for AirTran. There are some good folks there who will be grateful for the opportunity. It is actions like these that I consider when I have to p
61 Goldenshield : So 100% of Midwest's income went to the Wisconsin economy? What a crock. There are these things called outstations, and let's not forget Kansas City.
62 Post contains images JBo : If only. I don't think 'Ramper implied that 100% of YX's income went to Wisconsin ... but suffice to say, with such a significant amount of job losse
63 Cubsrule : I'm not so sure, because MEH can (and probably will) say that they gave ZW a chance to get the flying. While they could have bought 50-seaters for AL
64 JBo : True ... but politics is poitics, my friend.
65 Smcmac32msn : If SKYWAY had 15 CRJ's in service, I don't think this convo would be happening.
66 TVNWZ : What does that mean? What politician, or political mechanism, put in the fix for Skywest? Who was against Air Wisconsin? Who forced Air Wisconsin to
67 Knope2001 : Yeah...the typo is of course backwards. SkyWEST has 15 CRJs in Midwest Connect service, not Skyway.
68 Knope2001 : I found some rough idea of CRJ verus FRJ costs. This particular data DoT is for ACA from the 2nd quarter of 2004 and addresses direct operating expens
69 Post contains links SkyexRamper : Well I know our U.S. Senators just might be getting my letter. Sticker anyone? http://www.cafepress.com/skywayx
70 Boeing12345 : Not sure about that, but what I was referring to was the fact that any equipment that was needed, like desks, chairs, computers and such for the new
71 JBo : I would imagine that SkyWest would want to have a maintenance base in MKE, assuming they don't have one around these parts.
72 N353SK : Where? Is the Hangar currently occupied by skyway big enough to handle multiple CRJs? is the hangar next to the midwest hangar still available?
73 Boeing12345 : Yeah Skywest does have maintenance located in MKE. They are using the other Midwest hangar. From what I understand Midwest does not want them bringin
74 Cubsrule : Perhaps, but aren't some Wisconsin jobs better than no Wisconsin jobs? If they let AL keep bleeding money, they might have had to shut the whole airl
75 SkyexRamper : They claim that Midwest Connect lost 9 million last year......However YX won't state which airline operations lost what. But instead YX will take a c
76 Cubsrule : A business can very rarely make money without spending money... that goes for stopping bleeding as well.
77 Boeing12345 : Skyway made money pretty much every year, even after Sept. 11th. Skyway made money in 2002, 2003, 2004. It wasn't until Midwest decided to reduce the
78 Cubsrule : There aren't exactly gobs and gobs of FRJs in decent condition sitting around for the taking, unfortunately.
79 SkyexRamper : Well the 328 itself really shouldn't be used for daily operations anyhow, they just are not made to last. There were tons of 328Jets sitting in MYR,
80 Jetdeltamsy : You're right. A bad attitude is one thing. Disrupting opeations is illegal. But there's a VERY fine line between the two when you're dealing with ups
81 Boeing12345 : Yeah there were about 30 of them there. Comtran out of Texas bought like 6 of them. They are putting 16 corporate seats in and turning them for about
82 Cubsrule : They did buy a couple of ex-DH aircraft... that didn't go so well.
83 SkyexRamper : Nope, those dang things broke the 2nd they entered revenue service. I remember seeing N365SK the day after it was brought to MKE, had mechanics crawl
84 ATWZW170 : I know someone mentioned ground handling -- the only reason Skyway is being kept around for that is because they were given that business from Midwest
85 JBo : Looks like there's a bit more truth to an earlier statement of mine that was a bit tongue-in-cheek: I don't think Midwest realized (or maybe they did
86 Cubsrule : They also started losing money as fuel prices started increasing, so I'm not so sure that that's the connection you're looking for. It's interesting,
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