LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13365 posts, RR: 16 Posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5354 times:
Since the beginning of the 'jet' age, who have been operators of mainline 'combi' aircraft, that is with main deck cargo facilities along with pax facilities? Who are current operators and models still in use?
I recall flying on a IB 747 combi MAD-JFK back in 1985. Have Airbus or McD make/made any 'combi' models? I know It seems to me that there were few operators over the years due to safety and operational issues.
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3144 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5335 times:
AI has 2 743 combis and 1 744 combi. The 743's were built and delivered as combis to AI in 1988 and are currently used on the BOM-NRT sector. The 744 combi is leased from AC and is currently used on the DEL-FRA-LAX sector....
GARUDAROD From United States of America, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 1533 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5321 times:
Operators of Combis past/present from the jet age would include:
Sabena- B747, DC10
Royal Air Maroc-B747
Air Marshall Islands- DC8
[Edited 2008-01-16 08:44:25]
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5178 times:
I think there was one A300 combi... started off with Happag Lloyd and then SAA. It had the front cargo door, but I don't know if it ever flew in combi configuration.
Similarly, Continental, Martinair and World had DC-10's with cargo doors, but never flew as combis. Sabena had the only combi configuration for the DC-10 and Alitlaia for the MD-11.
Add to the 747 list above (note: Garuda aircraft was leased from SAA, Nigeria Airways from SAS):
British Airways (very short-lived experiment)
Condor (for Lufthansa Taipei flights)
El Al (nose door also)
Iraqi Airways (nose door also)
Also add Uganda AIrlines 707 combi.
And Aloha 737 (configuration changed at night- not flown as combi)
Some Pan Am 747's were modified adding the rear cargo door for military charter uses, but never flown with pax as combi. Martinair had combi variants (with nose door), but never operated as such.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26632 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4774 times:
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 19): Flying Tigers also flew B-707-320Cs and B-747-200Cs. IIRC, there were several operators of B-707 combies, including AA.
Although many carriers operated the 707-320C which had the main deck cargo door, most of them never operated in actual combi configuration with both cargo and passengers on the main deck. With a few exceptions, they were normally all-passenger or all-freighter.
Also, theres Air North flying four HS748s as combis, and the standard 737-200Adv as "sorta kinda half-@$$ combis" (seatpacks of cargo at the back when the passenger loads are light, loaded and unloaded by hand via the aft passenger door)
Ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21710 posts, RR: 59
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4755 times:
Didn't AS and AQ both operate Convertible 737-200s as well? Cargo at night, passengers by day, with palletized seats? I know Boeing has been selling the 737-700C since 1997, but have only delivered 11 with 1 still pending.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
: In addition to the two current operators of the 732C Combi, at least 6 other Canadian airlines (5 of which no longer exist) operated the 732C Combi.
: Jet2 (LS) also use 737-300 QC aircraft, with capacity to have either cargo or passengers. I think they use cargo when doing charters for Channel Expre
: Yep, AS did have 732QC's. They changed throughout the day from 0-111 seats. I rode one from FAI-ANC in 37 seat configuration couple years back...
: I believe all of those B-737-700Cs were sold to the USN as C-40As.