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Mexican Airports 2007 (traffic Figures)  
User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Finally, we can see the final picture of traffic among Mexico's airports.There was a massive growth in airports such as CUL, CJS and MID. But also very notorious growth in MTY, GDL, PVR and CUN. SJD and MEX increased only marginally. MEX lack of growth is due to its terminal limitations. Let's see what happens during 2008 with T2 already opened.

First the figures (in million pax)

1. MEX 25,8
2. CUN 11.3
3. GDL 7,3
4. MTY 6,6
5. TIJ 4,7
6. TLC 3,2
7. PVR 3,1
8. SJD 2,9
9. HMO 1,3
10. BJX 1,2
11. MID 1,2
12. CUL 1,1
13. ACA 1,0
14. VER 0,9
15. CJS 0,9

Previously I had not noticed that among the largest cities airports (not resort towns), they handle at least close to twice the amount of popoulation of the city they serve. GDL has 4M people and its aiport handles 7,3. MTY is 3,5M with an aiport of 6,6M pax, TIJ due to its demographics sees almost three times its population in its aiport.
Except MEX. If we keep a ratio of a modest 1,8 times the population of the metro area (18,5M) , it should be moving 33,3M pax. Evidently, the airport has been limiting the large growth potential that airservices have in this city. Hopefully, T2 with its capacity of 12M extra pax, will allow the capital to be better served as it should. Remember Sao Paulo, a city of the same city and economic condition as Mexico City has 2 airports close to 35M pax.

TLC finally has got into 6th place with a little bit more than 3,250,000 pax. Much of its traffic comes from Mexico City, but remember, also TLC produces a lot of traffic as it is a city of 1,2 M people in its metro area.


pZZ


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Thanks for sharing the information with us. Very impressive numbers for Mexican aviation!

Do you have the market breakdown (in percentage) of the major Mexican airlines (for domestic market only)?

Rgs


User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3041 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 1):
Do you have the market breakdown (in percentage) of the major Mexican airlines (for domestic market only)?

Not yet. Wait for a couple of months. Mexican government seem to be not very expedite when it comes to producing figures.

pZZ



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Thanx man, I find these threads about statistics very interesting.

MEX- Read on Eluniversal.com that by 2012, MEX is expected to be handling around 35 mil pax yearly. Let's see if it holds true.

CUN-11.3 mil. I believe the number pre-wilma was around 12 mil. My guess, Cancun ends 2008 with a figure close to 14 million.

TLC- Extremely important to upgrade this airport. It would be a shame if Interjet, Avolar and Volaris hold their growth due to infracstuture limitations at Toluca. Toluca, just like MEX should have opened a Terminal 2 of their own (on a smaller scale).


User currently offlineJuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1182 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Thanks for the information.

Juanchito



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User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2458 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2963 times:

Thanks for the good info!
Do you also have the numbers for OAX?

Thanks!
PW100



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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2936 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):
CUN-11.3 mil. I believe the number pre-wilma was around 12 mil.

Juventus,
Your memory failed you this time, as 2007 saw CUN hit a new record. Here the last five years traffic figures:

2007: 11,3M
2006: 9,7M
2005: 9,3M
2004: 10,0M
2003: 8,7M
2002: 7,9M

Quoting PW100 (Reply 5):
Do you also have the numbers for OAX?

2007: 514K
2006: 495K
2005: 563K
2004: 543K
2003: 461K

Quoting Juanchito (Reply 4):
Thanks for the information.

Juanchito:
If you happen to find La Aurora's traffic figures for 2007, please let me know to update the LatAm airport traffic data base. Thanks.



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User currently offline737-990 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 365 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2879 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):

CUN-11.3 mil. I believe the number pre-wilma was around 12 mil. My guess, Cancun ends 2008 with a figure close to 14 million.

I had the opportunity to visit CUN a few months ago on my honeymoon and was quite impressed with the new terminal. The terminal was a simple design but was very efficient at moving passengers through customs and immigration. I have seen some plans that show CUN building a parallel runway north of the current terminal complex along with future growth for more terminal space. Of all the airports in Mexico it seems like CUN is in the lead with regard to providing the infrastructure to continue to grow.

I will contrast that vision with SJD which cant even seem to build a simple parallel taxiway. During the Christmas to New Year time frame SJD had some serious ATC delays of over an hour due to the airport not being able to handle the traffic from all the charter and private jets coming in. SJD, like a lot of airports in Mexico seems to be behind on infrastructure projects and if not corrected will have a negative impact on future growth potential.



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2769 times:



Quoting 737-990 (Reply 7):
I will contrast that vision with SJD which cant even seem to build a simple parallel taxiway

I lot of pilots I fly with complain about that. That backtrack-stuff after landing holds up the show. One pilot told a story about 2 airliners and 2 or 3 executive circling around the airport one day (peak season) waiting for a challenger to clear.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2736 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 3):
TLC- Extremely important to upgrade this airport. It would be a shame if Interjet, Avolar and Volaris hold their growth due to infracstuture limitations at Toluca. Toluca, just like MEX should have opened a Terminal 2 of their own (on a smaller scale).

I'm afraid Interjet and Volaris could move to MEX, thus halting TLC growth. Do you think this could be a possibility?


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1791 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2726 times:



Quoting Pzurita1 (Thread starter):
TIJ due to its demographics sees almost three times its population in its aiport.

Would be interesting to know the numbers of people from SoCal using TIJ.



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User currently offlineMTYFREAK From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2708 times:



Quoting Pzurita1 (Thread starter):
4. MTY 6,6

Do you think there will be a significant grow after MTY T2 is open??

a possibility of getting close to GDL in the numbers?



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User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2702 times:



Quoting AM744 (Reply 9):
I'm afraid Interjet and Volaris could move to MEX, thus halting TLC growth. Do you think this could be a possibility?

With Terminal 2 up and running, and T1 with a reasonable amount of space available, this is definitely and interesting thought. Whereas I don't envision them abruptly changing their business plans and moving their operations to MEX, perhaps they could get landing rights for a few flights (which would become a shaker in MEX). It would be interesting to see how they handle MEX's very expensive landing and parking rights.

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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2678 times:



Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 12):
With Terminal 2 up and running, and T1 with a reasonable amount of space available, this is definitely and interesting thought. Whereas I don't envision them abruptly changing their business plans and moving their operations to MEX, perhaps they could get landing rights for a few flights (which would become a shaker in MEX). It would be interesting to see how they handle MEX's very expensive landing and parking rights

Personally I would like the governemnt to develop Toluca nicely, and for Interjet and Volaris to grow and prosper there.. A city of 20+ million people should really have two airports/options, sort of Tokyo with Narita and Haneda or New York with Kennedy and La Guardia. I'm with Adriaticus, I don't see them changing their game plan any time soon, I think they'll stay at TLC. Hopefully the governemnt keeps up with their growth, and throws some $$$ into TLC.


User currently offlineCivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2641 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 13):
I don't see them changing their game plan any time soon, I think they'll stay at TLC.

Let me tell you one thing, After Azteca left the scene, slots were awarded and, guess who was on the list after them ?? Yes, Volaris indeed !! Aladia got in first as its application was previous, and is already operating flights to Cancun from Mexico City.... but if more slots become available, I have misgivings that Volaris or Interjet would not be tempted to try their hand at MEX too !!

Greetings from Cancun.


User currently offlineKLM685 From Mexico, joined May 2005, 1577 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2628 times:



Quoting Civilav (Reply 14):
Yes, Volaris indeed !!

I think Volaris and Interjet will indeed enter the MEX market to attract different amounts of pax that still wish to fly through MEX. With all security, they will go for routes that will make AM, MX, etc... uncomfortable routes like CUN, TIJ, GDL and MTY for entrance. Low prices of course will be the first punch!

It's going to be VERY interesting as how they adapt the model to MEX. Although LCC's through Europe and the US had built their entrance to the main city airports.


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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

I read on eluniversal (Mexican newspaper) that govenrment and transportation officials said the new Terminal 2 at MEX will not be sufficient to keep pace with air traffic growth in/around Mexico City. They are talking AGAIN about building a new Mexico City airport in Texcoco.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/476000.html


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2515 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 16):
I read on eluniversal (Mexican newspaper) that govenrment and transportation officials said the new Terminal 2 at MEX will not be sufficient to keep pace with air traffic growth in/around Mexico City. They are talking AGAIN about building a new Mexico City airport in Texcoco.

That's great, but as I said a few years ago during the first failed attempt: I'll believe it when ground is broken.


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

Anyone know where ZIH fits into this - it's amazing to see the amount of flights going into the airport recently, especially on Saturdays...


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User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 18):
Anyone know where ZIH fits into this - it's amazing to see the amount of flights going into the airport recently, especially on Saturdays...

Precisely the only day it gets arrivals. ZIH's traffic has declined a little, many people prefer ACA, PVR, MZT, SJD, CUN, HUX... we have just to many nice places to choose from!

g77

[Edited 2008-01-22 10:26:51]


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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2489 times:



Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 19):
Precisely the only day it gets arrivals. ZIH's traffic has declined a little, many people prefer ACA, PVR, MZT, SJD, CUN, HUX... we have just to many nice places to choose from!

g77

Interesting didn't realize traffic was down vs. YA.



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1791 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/finanzas/62252.html

It looks like the new MEX airport will be built in Texcoco, doee anyone know what are the plant for the current MEX airport?....will it be sold off or remain an airport?



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2454 times:



Quoting Marcus (Reply 21):

The biggest issue will be the 600+ million USD they expend on T2. The terminal just opened and now they're talking about building a new airport, (which I would like to see). But what's going to happen to MEX and its brand new terminal if they build the new airport??


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2448 times:



Quoting Juventus (Reply 22):
The biggest issue will be the 600+ million USD they expend on T2. The terminal just opened and now they're talking about building a new airport, (which I would like to see). But what's going to happen to MEX and its brand new terminal if they build the new airport??

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think it'll be built in the short term. Recent investment in T1 and T2 and a proposed "cargo" airport at Tizayuca come to mind.


User currently onlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2419 times:



Quoting KLM685 (Reply 15):
I think Volaris and Interjet will indeed enter the MEX market to attract different amounts of pax that still wish to fly through MEX. With all security, they will go for routes that will make AM, MX, etc... uncomfortable routes like CUN, TIJ, GDL and MTY for entrance. Low prices of course will be the first punch!

I don't see either Volaris or InterJet flying TLC-MTY and MEX-MTY simultaneously. Splitting the traffic in that way is like competing with their own strategy. In fact AM (5D) pulled out of TLC when that route was flown by AM from MEX and 5D from TLC, both to MTY.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 22):
Quoting Marcus (Reply 21):
The biggest issue will be the 600 million USD they expend on T2. The terminal just opened and now they're talking about building a new airport, (which I would like to see). But what's going to happen to MEX and its brand new terminal if they build the new airport??

In order to take advantage of the current infrastructure, hotels and so on, MEX will be eventually turned into:

  • Shopping mall.
  • Convention center.
  • Amusement park.
  • Public park with lakes.

    But this is just a rumor mentioned in the press. Certainly, because of the proximity of both airports, MEX would be closed.

    Fyano


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