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ATA To Fly MIA-GUA/SJO  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32776 posts, RR: 72
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5422 times:

These are odd routes if I ever saw them. ATA is starting Miami-Guatemala City and Miami-San Jose, Costa Rica. They will be basing one 738 in Miami for the flights. Service starts this spring, flights already bookable at ata.com.


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User currently offlineCloud4000 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5407 times:

Interesting.  confused  Wouldn't it better to operate these flights out of FLL and get a feed of some kind from WN?


Boston, USA
User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5384 times:

There was a thread a few days ago about this already. We are not doing these flights on our own. This is the beginning of the USALatin Air ACMI contract. We are providing the aircraft and crew while USALatin is marketing and handling the flights. The twist is that we are allowed to sell seats ourselves so that is why they show up on ata.com.


35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

It sounds like the bulk fare tour operator "USALatin Sky" is affiliated with ATA Airlines, as the DOT denied ATA the right to market the flights as "USALatin Sky" in the following order:

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...=DocumentDetail&o=090000648037b7d1


User currently offlineJuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1186 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5278 times:

Already been discussed, more info here

USA Latin Sky To Some Contries In Central America (by Juanchito Jan 11 2008 in Civil Aviation)

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32776 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5137 times:

Schedules:

TZ 4054 MIA 0800-0850 GUA 738 Daily
TZ 4055 GUA 1000-1435 MIA 738 Daily

TZ 4048 MIA 1550-1640 SJO 738 Daily
TZ 4049 SJO 1755-2240 MIA 738 Daily



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

Good luck to TZ, but I doubt they'll ever be successful with MIA-SJO given AA's dominance out of MIA.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32776 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5094 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 6):
Good luck to TZ, but I doubt they'll ever be successful with MIA-SJO given AA's dominance out of MIA.

I definitely think they need some luck. Depending on who they aim at, though, they might be successful. If they sell their tickets largely through tour companies, ethnic travel agencies, etc., they'll have no problem. That's how Martinair Holland has been able to successfully compete on the route, under the radar, for so many years (most of the traffic on the MIA-SJO route is Miami-originating, not Amsterdam).

MIA-SJO is a huge market, and Martinair, LACSA, and Spirit have no problems competing with AA.



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User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 days ago) and read 4885 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 6):
Good luck to TZ, but I doubt they'll ever be successful with MIA-SJO given AA's dominance out of MIA.



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
I definitely think they need some luck. Depending on who they aim at, though, they might be successful. If they sell their tickets largely through tour companies, ethnic travel agencies, etc., they'll have no problem. That's how Martinair Holland has been able to successfully compete on the route, under the radar, for so many years (most of the traffic on the MIA-SJO route is Miami-originating, not Amsterdam).

MIA-SJO is a huge market, and Martinair, LACSA, and Spirit have no problems competing with AA.

TZ doesn't need too much luck. The onus is on USA Latin to sell the inventory. This is similar to the past Pleasant Holidays contracts where they purchased the block of seats and the operator was also allowed to sell some through their channels. If USA Latin fails in this regard, then I don't see any loss to TZ. We'll just redeploy the aircraft elsewhere. I do agree that AA and possibly others will make it difficult.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7174 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4772 times:

Well it will be nice to see some more ATA 738s in MIA. I see them once in a while for their charters to Cuba its always nice to have another domestic airline in MIA. I like the look of their 738s alot too anyway.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlinePitpirate From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

I know it is only wishful thing - BUT, it would sure be nice to see those TZ L-1011's used on this routing...........

 Big grin


User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4560 times:



Quoting Pitpirate (Reply 10):
I know it is only wishful thing - BUT, it would sure be nice to see those TZ L-1011's used on this routing...........

Never going to happen and two of them are going bye bye by the end of May.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineSJUSXM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4489 times:

I wish they brought back the old livery back. That had to be the best ever.


AT7, ER3, ER4, ER5, CR7, E70, E75, F100, M82, M83, 722, 732, 738, 752, 762, 763, AB6, 320, 321, 772, 77W
User currently offlinePITPirate From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4436 times:



Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 11):
Never going to happen and two of them are going bye bye by the end of May.

 Angry  tombstone  -- Soon they will all be gone from The U.S. & will be just a distant memory.


User currently offlineSpinkid From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 days ago) and read 4343 times:

Why don't they fly a route from the MDW or somewhere else to MIA to cycle a plane through the system?

User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4285 times:



Quoting Spinkid (Reply 14):
Why don't they fly a route from the MDW or somewhere else to MIA to cycle a plane through the system?


Because they will be based in MIA, we don't have much of a sched system left to cycle it through, and again, they operate on USA Latin's schedule, not ours. This is no different than any other charter carrier does. They don't have systems to cycle them through either. You take the plane to the business.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
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