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1970s DC-10/L-1011/747 Configuration Changes  
User currently offlineTranStar From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5547 times:
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I know that when US domestic carriers first started operating widebodies in the early 1970s they operated with much more spacious configuration that what later became the norm. For example:

747 coach configuration was 8-9 seats across, instead of 10 across
DC-10 and L-1011 coach configuration was typically 8 instead of 9 seats across.

When was this changed?

TranStar

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5530 times:

Almost all early 747 and DC-10/L1011 operators had replaced the original 9-abreast economy class seating on 747s and 8-abreast (2-4-2) on DC-10s and L1011s by the late 1970s. By 1980 I think there were very few aircraft operating with the original more spacious configurations.

Many aircraft were being delivered with the denser seating by about 1974 or 1975. I remember a BA trip ORD-LHR-ORD on BA 747-100s in March 1974. The outbound flight had the original 9-abreast seating and the return flight had the new 10-abreast seats. So BA's 9-abreast 747 layout only lasted about 4 years.

Ironically, BA's L1011-1s used on intra-Europe flights had very tight 10-abreast (3-4-3) seating in Y class while the same aicraft type used by US carriers and several others at the time had the spacious 8-abreast layout.


User currently offlineTranStar From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 530 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5511 times:
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When were the passenger louges taken out?

User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5486 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 1):
Almost all early 747 and DC-10/L1011 operators had replaced the original 9-abreast economy class seating on 747s and 8-abreast (2-4-2) on DC-10s and L1011s by the late 1970s.

The L-1011 original seating arrangement was 2-4-2 with coat storage between the center seats, not 9-abreast. The first 10-abreast seating arrangement was installed on the 400 passenger Court Line TriStars (s/n 1024 and 1032). These were delivered in early 1973.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5418 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 3):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 1):
Almost all early 747 and DC-10/L1011 operators had replaced the original 9-abreast economy class seating on 747s and 8-abreast (2-4-2) on DC-10s and L1011s by the late 1970s.

The L-1011 original seating arrangement was 2-4-2 with coat storage between the center seats, not 9-abreast.

I didn't say the original L1011 arrangement was 9-abreast. You must have misread my posting you are referring to above.


User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5349 times:

Most lounges went out by 74. Some airlines like
National never had them. Continental brought lounges back in '78/79.


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